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The Greens is a bastard child of The Guardian and The Drum isn't it?
 
Saw Richard Di Natale on Q&A last night and he appeared wound up like a two bob on coal and homosexuals. Displays criteria of a partially deranged being. They ruin the platform given them by a small percentage of Australians by being radical, desperate, loud, angry, divisive and irrational. Maybe the people that voted for them like that performance.
 
One to keep an eye on after already displaying anti Australian views.
 
Wysiwyg said:
One to keep an eye on after already displaying anti Australian views.
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Don't worry, you wont lose your public holiday. We are just going to move it to another day, like the day we won the a
America's Cup or something.
 
Macquack said:
Don't worry, you wont lose your public holiday. We are just going to move it to another day, like the day we won the a
America's Cup or something.
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There is no reason to change the recorded day of colonisation.
 
wayneL said:
Ahhhh, good ol' revision of history. The left's favourite hobby.

That'll bite you on the bum mate.
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Seguing on that, the crop of pollies snared in the foreign citizenship legal challenge are using the excuse that the founders couldn't have known a nation with such a high proportion of migrants. Hello what do they think Oz was populating itself with upto 1900 ....
 
Macquack said:
OK, give us your version of the purpose of the First Fleet arriving in Australia.
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It was empty land and God taught us to waste not, want not?

It was barely used by the savages and in great need of that awesome civilisation thingy? So sending soldiers and convicted criminals is the way to do it?

If England don't take it, other European powers will... then there'll be unnecessary wars between them for the place. So it was taken to keep the peace?

I could go on...
 

They might have a point though. The place was made (almost) blank. And we all know that those who blank it, owns it.
 
Surely you jest? I don't see any claims of compensation being made by one tribe over another after being defeated in battle prior to European "civilisation" arriving. Tribal battle before European arrival is conveniently forgotten as if the only warring party were the Europeans at the time.
 

That was actual history, it did happened right?

Yes, wars between tribes, factions, brothers and foreigners all took place.

I'm not saying imperialism is a Western thing. As we all know, Western things are only the good stuff; the bad stuff are those rare bad apples who strains then break under the pressure to do good

In all seriousness... it was a tragic history, but it was the past. Now... the Aborigines that are living today, the White and multimix aussies that are also living today... that's not history and wrongs can still be corrected, right?

I was watching an interview with a pretty dam smart Canadian human rights lawyer/activist. She was responding to Canada's Trudeau's speech at the UN about the suffering of Canada's natives - "all was because of Colonialism" and its tragedies.

Yea, yea, that's all fine and good. But, she was saying, those policies are still being carried out today, Justin.

Back to our own backyard, where the Aborigines mostly live... highest infant mortality, drug misuse, death in custody etc. etc.

Maybe something can be done about that, today, beside telling them to forget the past, and the past also had them doing bad stuff to each other too - hence, fair game. Hate the game not the player.


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In line what the argument that other races and culture have also done war, imperialism and genocide too... Yes that is true. But we can't stop at that fact of history.

Leaving it at that historical fact leave much wiggle room and justification for genocide, imperialism and ethnic cleansing - otherwise known as Liberation - that is/are/might-be carried out today.

It excuse, or allow us to shrug off, ethnic cleansing and genocide by such friends as Myanmar's "Buddhists"; Israel' "Jews"; American "Christian" freedom fighters; and soon enough, Chinese "Asian people's liberation army" marching and sailing all over the place.
 
Australia is in the top 10 of nations most giving. I think you will find people in Australia want the best for Aboriginal people and want them to join in. More and more doors are being opened regarding education and employment. The sportsmen and women bring enjoyment to millions of people. Can't change the past and I myself won't be apologising for something I did not participate in or condone. If people want to recall the stupidity and fears and angers and injustices of the past then do so but don't try to impart blame onto the present Australians.

 

Australians are, in general, quite generous.

I'm not talking about the people. Talking about policies at the highest level.

There are some programmes and yea, we've come a long way from setting up Missions... we now hand out CentreLink cards to them (and soon to all on welfare) to purchase food only - at recognised outlets like Woolies and Coles, of course... screw Aldi and IGA

Beside a handful of idiots who goes all out against discrimination by suing a uni for an Aborigine-only computing room... I mean, don't we all have laptops at home, all the necessities, all equally? Why are the Abo being favoured, right?

Anyway, no one is saying the present generation should apologise and take the blame for past crimes and civilising effort. Just be informed citizen and not shrugged off the current policies that, as Abbott put it: move into town and cities will ya. We know the gov't pushed your ancestors to the desert, by the rubbish tips and all... but that's long ago. Why not now forgive and forget, move in among us, get that nice office job, or pick up a trade, then a mortgage just like everybody else.

Yah... just like that.

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As to which country (civilisation?) is more generous from that graph there... maybe people who has a bit more money tend to give a bit more. It's hard to give a buck when you don't have two to rub against.

That and we should be mindful about history and its genocides. Again, to say that others have done it, this country would have done it if that country didn't... While all that is true, that doesn't make it right or acceptable.

And that kind of history aren't historical and aren't all in the past. There are genocides, wars and liberation still happening all over the place.

If we in the West are involved in such wars, or our leaders sent our soldiers and taxdollars there... we're paying for it in that first instance, then pay again through our individual generosity.

You know, maybe other people don't want handouts, don't need their country being bombed (even if it's for their own good).
 
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