The Abbott Government

Reward and applause for the propaganda unit and no doubt the unit received further directions on how to maintain secrecy and perverse the truth.

Tony Abbott's private function an affair for the conservative media faithful

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ia-faithful-20131026-2w8wz.html#ixzz2jLFGCohD

IFocus said:

TS his comments were a disaster and immature like the Hunt interview they are rapidly making laughing stocks out Oz

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What? And we weren't before? Publicly elected PM gets rat f@cked by own party to bring in a PM who was elected by faceless men and then the rats bring back the rejected PM ?? Noooooo we were not being laughed at all globally now were we?

drsmith said:

It's quiet because they're stopping the boats

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I will give the Coalition full credit for stopping or slowing the boats takes real genus to hid the information, do nothing and the numbers slow.

sorting out Labor's NBN fiasco.

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Nope this is growing into a bigger fiasco on how to screw the punters and MT in one go more genus.

In other words, they're running the country instead of failing at running themselves.

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Admire the religious fever of the faithful just believe and all will be OK praise the Coalition we are all saved LOL.

The political control of information is pretty sickling.

trainspotter said:

What? And we weren't before? Publicly elected PM gets rat f@cked by own party to bring in a PM who was elected by faceless men and then the rats bring back the rejected PM ?? Noooooo we were not being laughed at all globally now were we?

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You might have missed the bit about the current government is the Coalition and they don't improve by raising the leadership mess that wrangled the Labor party.

BTW nice to see you back...........you are still wrong

IFocus said:

You might have missed the bit about the current government is the Coalition and they don't improve by raising the leadership mess that wrangled the Labor party.

BTW nice to see you back...........you are still wrong

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Gee ... touched by the show of emotion. But but but Tony was unelectable they all bleated. If its one thing us blue tie brigade knows how to do it is to close ranks mate !!! Loose lips sink ships IFocus.

One of the first tests for unity in the coalition will be the Grain Corp takeover offer by US Giant Archer Daniels Midland. A lot of people are uneasy about selling off more of our key infrastructure businesses increasing the US monolopy and weakening the marketing strength of one of our main rural exports.

One MP told the AFR the deal would “really test the marriage” of the coalition parties if it is approved.

Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan has said we don't want countries to come in here with a cheque book instead of an army. We want to control our own destiny.

For the Big L Libs it's just 'business', corporating of the world. For the Nationals, and most farmers it's their lifestyle and livelihood.

There are problems with GrainCorp having a near monopoly of Aus grain handling, but the solution is not to sell to another larger international monopoly.

Hockey has delayed making a decision until 17th Dec.

Whiskers said:

One of the first tests for unity in the coalition will be the Grain Corp takeover offer by US Giant Archer Daniels Midland. A lot of people are uneasy about selling off more of our key infrastructure businesses increasing the US monolopy and weakening the marketing strength of one of our main rural exports.

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National's Leader Warren Truss was quiet frank in his views on this on the ABC's insiders program this morning.

drsmith said:

National's Leader Warren Truss was quiet frank in his views on this on the ABC's insiders program this morning.

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Thought Trust spoke well there was a fair amount of depht to his comments across a wide range of issue no ummms and arrrrs rather than the rubbish you get from the rest of the rabble.

He actually sounded like a deputy PM.

IFocus said:

Thought Trust spoke well there was a fair amount of depht to his comments across a wide range of issue no ummms and arrrrs rather than the rubbish you get from the rest of the rabble.

He actually sounded like a deputy PM.

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You get two feathers for that. One for commenting positively about someone from the Coalition and a second for finally acknowledging those on the other side of the political fence are a rabble.

drsmith said:

You get two feathers for that. One for commenting positively about someone from the Coalition and a second for finally acknowledging those on the other side of the political fence are a rabble.

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Should have said Coalition rabble


This is a real concern the sheer arrogance of with holding information for political purposes is not a good sign

Silence echoes across Canberra as the Coalition clams up

What we haven't been told

- Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop's speech to the Australian Council for International Development conference in Canberra is closed to the media.

- Treasurer Joe Hockey holds a 10-minute press conference, and refuses to take many questions, announcing the government will almost double the borrowing limit to $500 billion.

- Treasury refuses to release advice to the new government on the state of the economy and other issues, claiming its release "would interfere with the establishment of an effective working relationship between the Treasury and Treasurer".

- The capacity at the Manus Island (PNG) and Nauru offshore asylum seeker processing centres and the Christmas Island processing centre.

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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...on-clams-up-20131102-2wt5k.html#ixzz2jYRJvIuX

IFocus said:

This is a real concern the sheer arrogance of with holding information for political purposes is not a good sign

Silence echoes across Canberra as the Coalition clams up

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Obviously you prefer a government, like the last one, on t.v every night sprouting, lies and garbage.
Blaming all and sundry for another massive self inflicted stuff stuff up and trying to BS and spin their way out of their own manure.
The problem the SMH reporters are having is, they are not being fed like "chooks" as they were under Labor.
Now the reporters have to get off their ar$es and do the job they are paid for. They don't want to report 'no boats' last week and they are struggling to find anything to criticise the government for.
IMO they probably have to get up from behind their desk and get out and do some investigating, rather than sitting their waiting for the fax from the government press office, those days are over.lol

There ia a qoute in the article you linked, that sums it up perfectly.


Abbott's motto is that if you've got something to say, then say it. "But if you don't have something to say, then don't do it. You're just making noise."
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It's a breath of fresh air, having a government running the country without getting a blow by blow report in every paper and news broadcast every hour of every day.
Labor just couldn't keep their mouths shut and when they opened it, they blew their feet off.
All it succeeded in doing was to make jounalists lazy.IMO

IFocus said:

Should have said Coalition rabble.

This is a real concern the sheer arrogance of with holding information for political purposes is not a good sign

Silence echoes across Canberra as the Coalition clams up

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...on-clams-up-20131102-2wt5k.html#ixzz2jYRJvIuX

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The media's just bored with having a government that's not in constant chaos. They have to fill their sheets with something.

You can keep the second feather. You'll need a lot more than that to survive the long cold Labor winter ahead.

sptrawler said:

Obviously you prefer a government, like the last one, on t.v every night sprouting, lies and garbage.
Blaming all and sundry for another massive self inflicted stuff stuff up and trying to BS and spin their way out of their own manure.
The problem the SMH reporters are having is, they are not being fed like "chooks" as they were under Labor.
Now the reporters have to get off their ar$es and do the job they are paid for. They don't want to report 'no boats' last week and they are struggling to find anything to criticise the government for.
IMO they probably have to get up from behind their desk and get out and do some investigating, rather than sitting their waiting for the fax from the government press office, those days are over.lol

There ia a qoute in the article you linked, that sums it up perfectly.


Abbott's motto is that if you've got something to say, then say it. "But if you don't have something to say, then don't do it. You're just making noise."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...on-clams-up-20131102-2wt5k.html#ixzz2jYlaQeOI

It's a breath of fresh air, having a government running the country without getting a blow by blow report in every paper and news broadcast every hour of every day.
Labor just couldn't keep their mouths shut and when they opened it, they blew their feet off.
All it succeeded in doing was to make jounalists lazy.IMO

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+1....Labor had to keep in front of the media all the time to divert attention away from the daily crisis.

Yes....the Abbott Government is like a breath of fresh air....It has been so good to get away from the Labor pollution.

sptrawler said:

It's a breath of fresh air, having a government running the country without getting a blow by blow report in every paper and news broadcast every hour of every day.

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I think the Coalition Government so far have been excellent at running the ......rorts.

We actually don't know how they running the country no one will tell us Hockey spending 10 mins and refusing questions is very damming of his incompetence.

IFocus said:

I think the Coalition Government so far have been excellent at running the ......rorts.

We actually don't know how they running the country no one will tell us Hockey spending 10 mins and refusing questions is very damming of his incompetence.

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Swan never shut up and blew his feet off at every turn, with his incompetence, that didn't seem to bother you.lol

Why get bent out of shape, when Hockey has been in the job for 6 weeks, sounds like you are ranting.

sptrawler said:

Swan never shut up and blew his feet off at every turn, with his incompetence, that didn't seem to bother you.lol

Why get bent out of shape, when Hockey has been in the job for 6 weeks, sounds like you are ranting.

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Spot on.
Go to a forum like Whirlpool, and they are having a whinge because there is bugger all updates on the NBN rollout - aka - the fiasco that the Libs are trying to clean up.

IFocus said:

I think the Coalition Government so far have been excellent at running the ......rorts.

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Rorts ??

I heard nothing of rorts on Insiders today but then I only watched most of it, not quiet 100% all of it.

You lose one of those two feathers. Consider it as means testing.

I can already hear the loud SQUAWWWK.

Don't wish to hijack the thread, but couldn't find an existing one.

I'd like anyone to tell me why the Fed government should continue to prop up Australian vehicle manufacturers? Isn't this just a tax on the economy?

The Australian industry is making relatively expensive cars, and the large sedans that people don't want anymore, and most car sales are of imports, I think in the ratio of about about 35:65 of local:imports.

What's the point anymore?

sydboy007 said:

Westfarmers has pretty much said they've not seen a material rise in sales, so while people might SAY they're feeling better they're NOT spending more, so the reality is they're not truly behaving any differently now than before the election.

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Well Syd, Westpac seem to think there is an increase in consumer confidence.


Amid strong growth in the property market, chief executive Gail Kelly said the bank believed higher confidence would lead to increased borrowing by consumers, especially those in NSW.

"There is no doubt that domestically we are seeing a pick-up in consumer confidence which we expect will translate to a gradual increase in credit growth," Mrs Kelly said.



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So as long as the government doesn't do a 'Labor implossion', there may be an orderly recovery in consumer spending.
Rather than a continuation of the mass panic consumer spending freeze we saw under Labor.

Logique said:

Don't wish to hijack the thread, but couldn't find an existing one.

I'd like anyone to tell me why the Fed government should continue to prop up Australian vehicle manufacturers? Isn't this just a tax on the economy?

The Australian industry is making relatively expensive cars, and the large sedans that people don't want anymore, and most car sales are of imports, I think in the ratio of about about 35:65 of local:imports.

What's the point anymore?

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It seems, despite much past union bashing and claims of low employee productivity, the main problem is more to do with land and construction costs, efficiency in the wider economy.

Alan Kohler:

This is the other side of the double edge sword of allowing unlimited foreign investment, especially in land. It's pushing our cost of production up and out of competition, from a 'cancer' in the very foundations. High land prices reflects in higher startup cost, higher construction costs (because of accumulated costs starting from land passed on through cost of production of all components and CPI adjusted wages) and higher running costs.

Part of the problem is our RBA hasn't cut rates hard or fast enough to stabilise our currency to protect Aus manufacturing and exports from international trade and currency wars.

Then the other problem we have is that the more free trade deals we do the worse our problem will become with many asian countries using 'internal excise taxes' and the US and Europe using heavily subsidies and tax concessions for much of their production. That is they devalue the value of our exports by artificially lowering their local base price for the same goods produces there.

This will be an exercise of where Abbott stands... for short term gain culling off the industry all together and continuing the cost of production from the land up aided by uncontrolled foreign investment... or a longer term plan to foster Aus owned manufacturing with suitable subsidies or tax concessions as our competitors.

It's not too dissimilar to the choice they have to make about the Grain Corp takeover offer by ADM.

Uncontrolled foreign investment is seen by Big L Liberal type thinking and speculative developers and farmers as good business, and broke farmers as a quick fix to their problems. But the effects are far-reaching.

The US and Germany for example didn't become engineering powerhouses overnight. It took vision and commitment from government to encourage and support that kind of ingenuity in local manufacturing.

Abbotts signature election victory cry of 'Australia is open for business again' will be put to the test to see whether he intends to sell off the family farm literally, or do smarter things to protect the family farm but value add and make better returns from it. To that end the Nationals reflect more sustainable thinking for our future agricultural and manufacturing production.