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Knobby22 said:
Is this a disastrous weeks for the Libs or what? As usual it is the PMs decisions - biased judges, (like the Speaker), global warming decisions, poor handling of gay marriage issue, no direction on the economy. Surely the MPs can see the writing on the wall!! If they go the next election with this guy with the capabilities of a student union politician in charge this will be the biggest drubbing in history.
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Absolute shocker Liberals inviting a sitting RC commissioner to a fund raiser (politically negates its intended purpose), Hard right tearing each other apart to protect Abbott's leadership from Morrison, moderates have had enough of branch stacking real and in the party room, Hockey is still treasurer.

Best gauge how bad its been is Shorten has been invisible.
 
Nice summery from Barry Cassidy


Coalition is losing its advantage across the board

From the Dyson Heydon game changer, to same-sex marriage and economic and national security policy - the Coalition is losing the edge on a number of key issues that will decide the next election, writes Barrie Cassidy.

The Abbott Government should be less concerned about declining opinion polls and more concerned about losing the edge on the key issues that will decide the next election.

As each day goes by the Coalition is losing its political advantage across the board
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Bunch of absolute losers


It's easy to identify what the Government has torn down; a lot harder to identify what it plans to build.

Similarly, there is a long list of initiatives it will not take - like GST reform without the states, modest industrial relations reforms as recommended by the Productivity Commission, changes around superannuation - but few pointers to a positive legislative agenda.

In a recent article in the Fairfax media, associate professor of political science at the University of Melbourne, Sally Young, raised the question as to whether the Abbott Government was the worst ever; that is, in terms of effectiveness.

She conceded her approach values quantity over quality and doesn't measure how important the legislation was or its impact.

However, based on legislation passed, the Abbott Government is the least efficient in 44 years.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-...losing-its-advantage-across-the-board/6695110
 
Add to the woes the Liberal Daily has had enough of sheer stupidity or personal survival interests.

Barry Cassidy again

Is this Abbott's swan song?


And it now seems likely that the Coalition cannot rely on News Corp - and particularly The Australian - for a free ride. That newspaper seems just as intent on fair and balanced coverage as any other.

In an editorial on Tuesday, the paper wrote of Abbott's long list of mistakes and said:

The common thread is lousy judgment, a poor sense of political priorities, inept messaging via the media, and a tin ear for the concerns and the reactions of the electorate...

Back in November last year we said the Abbott administration was doomed without a narrative and remarked that 'the prime minister is losing the battle to define core issues and to explain to voters what he is doing and why. Mr Abbott's approach to messaging is a shambles of conception, strategy and execution. Too often the Abbott government maddeningly vacates the media space.'

The editorial continued:

Mr Abbott and his office under Peta Credlin's leadership must take responsibility...

As it approaches yet another political reset as a triumph of hope over experience, the PMO appears afflicted by its old bunker mentality...

Similarly, personal mistrust has stood in the way of Mr Abbott making better frontbench use of Malcolm Turnbull's undeniable talents. Loyalty is an admirable quality but if it trumps administrative merit and the national interest - why is the underwhelming Mr Hockey still treasurer? - Mr Abbott begins to look like just another political hack.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-...losing-its-advantage-across-the-board/6695110
 
Given Abbott's and his office behavior he has likely trashed the Liberal brand beyond Labors wildest dreams

Rudd and Gillard are largely responsible for Abbott being PM..........Abbott will solely be responsible for Shorten being PM.
 
SirRumpole said:
Tony Abbott's leadership faces new dangers as Fairfax-Ipsos poll predicts Coalition wipeout

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...edicts-coalition-wipeout-20150816-gj01ip.html
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Rumpy, I would not get too cocky about an Abbott wipe out until after the RC into union corruption is handed down at the end of the year.

We may well see a different poll.

Abbott is a fighter and a survivor irrespective of the fact that I believe Morrison would do better as a leader.

Morrison has the charisma to handle the media and that is what is needed.
 
noco said:
Rumpy, I would not get too cocky about an Abbott wipe out until after the RC into union corruption is handed down at the end of the year.
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I don't think it will matter now that the Commissioner has been shown to have the appearance of bias (if not the actuality). People will take the RC as a political witch hunt and will ignore it.
 
orr said:
I demur; This government sets a new low point from all future Governments will be compared.
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On a seemingly conscious effort to put the plebeians offside I would agree, vis a vis perceptions of being out of touch.

On actual policy? Mate, you have got to be joking. Does your memory not extend back a mere ~3-7 years?
 
SirRumpole said:
Tony Abbott's leadership faces new dangers as Fairfax-Ipsos poll predicts Coalition wipeout
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A long way to election day just yet. And even then, fairfax poll has labor winning the last election. Anything that comes out of that paper is generally leftist trash lately.
 
SirRumpole said:
I don't think it will matter now that the Commissioner has been shown to have the appearance of bias (if not the actuality). People will take the RC as a political witch hunt and will ignore it.
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Which people are you talking about?

I only see the Green/Labor left wing socialist and the unions seeing it as a witch hunt.

When will you get it that the RC is about the union corruption and not the Labor Party.

The RC has already found so much evidence of union corruption, intimidation and bullying.

What are you afraid of?

Is it the fear that an ex union leader who now your fearless leader may get caught in the net.

If Shorten has done nothing wrong, then he has nothing to fear.

Get over it.
 
noco said:
If Shorten has done nothing wrong, then he has nothing to fear.
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Ha ha ha.

If Abbott was the subject of a Royal Commission led by a sympathiser of the Labor Party you would be crying foul and issuing accusations of bias.

Now it's the Libs turn to cop the flak, so get over that.
 
SirRumpole said:
Ha ha ha.

If Abbott was the subject of a Royal Commission led by a sympathiser of the Labor Party you would be crying foul and issuing accusations of bias.

Now it's the Libs turn to cop the flak, so get over that.
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What the hell are you talking about?......Your post does not make any sense....It all seems purely hypothetical.
 
noco said:
What the hell are you talking about?......Your post does not make any sense....It all seems purely hypothetical.
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I understand my post may not make sense to you, that's the pity of it.

The RC has been tainted by the perception of bias, and whatever conclusions it comes up with will be tainted.

Fair enough if it only investigated current union activities, but when it dragged up Gillard and Shorten who were long out of day to day union affairs (and found very little against them), were times when it marked itself as a political witch hunt.

I doubt if it will have much effect on the rusted ons of either Party, and I doubt it will have much effect on the swinging voters either, as it no longer passes the sniff test of impartiality.
 
moXJO said:
A long way to election day just yet. And even then, fairfax poll has labor winning the last election. Anything that comes out of that paper is generally leftist trash lately.
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+1

They are like a pack of hyenas.

Agree with your post too, noco, regarding Abbott and Morrison.
 
sptrawler said:
That's great news for the coalition, it will mean Shorten will hold his position as leader of the opposition. :xyxthumbs
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Tony will just keep having commissions of inquiry until he can find a smoking gun or even a child overboard. The Oz public lap that stuff up and vote obsequiously to the person with the least amount of stench.
 
The common thread is lousy judgment, a poor sense of political priorities, inept messaging via the media, and a tin ear for the concerns and the reactions of the electorate...
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Isn't that the truth. At least Gillard was being white anted. Abbott does it all himself. He is hopeless. How did he ever make it as a politician? Or as one very senior media exec said to me the other day "his background doesn't lend itself to forming consensus views".
 
SirRumpole said:
I understand my post may not make sense to you, that's the pity of it.

The RC has been tainted by the perception of bias, and whatever conclusions it comes up with will be tainted.

Fair enough if it only investigated current union activities, but when it dragged up Gillard and Shorten who were long out of day to day union affairs (and found very little against them), were times when it marked itself as a political witch hunt.

I doubt if it will have much effect on the rusted ons of either Party, and I doubt it will have much effect on the swinging voters either, as it no longer passes the sniff test of impartiality.
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The perception of bias is only being flaunted by the Green/Labor left wing socialists because of what they fear most of all.

Maybe your comrade Gillard is not yet off the hook.....I believe that one may be ongoing when they bring back Wilson and Blewitt........It is not over until the fat lady sings.
 
McLovin said:
Isn't that the truth. At least Gillard was being white anted. Abbott does it all himself. He is hopeless. How did he ever make it as a politician? Or as one very senior media exec said to me the other day "his background doesn't lend itself to forming consensus views".
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And despite calling Fairfax leftist etc. the truth is they aren't going to win the next election with Tony in charge. Minds within the Liberal party need to be concentrated.
 
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