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There were two dumb things about the mining tax
1> They spent it before they got it
2> They let the mining companies off easy, they should have gone in a lot harder.
People don't seem to realise that we have had an oil and gas RRT for decades and investment in gas is this country is booming.
Non renewable resources are always going to be in demand. Sure there are other countries that mine minerals but there is also a lot of demand. If we don't make the most of our resources before they disappear then we are fools. Which is a pretty good description of the current government.
Somehow we've been diddled into believe the resource companies own the stuff when all they've got is a right to extract. WE OWN it and should have gotten a lot more for it over the last decade.
NB. Plod's disrespect for our Prime Minister is appalling and shows the hatred he has for Tony Abbott.
The image of our Prime Minister, the right 'DISHONOURABLE' Juliar Gillard MP .
This fraud of a Prime Minister, Juliar, could not not lie straight in bed if she tried.
Juliar Gillard must be so dense and narrow minded I'm sure she can see through a keyhole with both eyes.
Exactly what Barnett has been saying.
The Federal LNP haven't backed him and Labor before them didn't back him.
Seems crazy to have a super profits tax, when they are offshoring their profits.
More intelligent to charge them for how much they extract.
Sino Iron’s $10 billion mine on Clive Palmer’s leases in the Pilbara has got its production costs below $US100 a tonne for the first time in the past few months, but they are still double the prevailing iron ore price.
Consulting firm AME lists Sino Iron as the world’s highest- cost operation supplying the Chinese market in seaborne trade. The firm counts only the mine’s variable costs such as wages, processing and transport. Adding in the capital charges could easily double its costs.
If Atlas Iron with production costs of around $US60 a tonne is in trouble, Sino Iron should be mothballed. There is no obvious economic justification for keeping it going. The mine’s continued operation says much about what is wrong with the iron ore market and also flashes danger signals for the outlook for the Chinese economy.
Barnett was out encouraging as much expansion and production as he could when prices were high.
Can see it with LNG as well.
Prob was Barnett bought into the $120 floor price, and mistook the massive increase in demand to build new ships and mines and infrastructure as permanent demand when it was reasonably transitory.
I was reading an article that is showing over 100 ships will be scrapped this year. At the peak of the ship building freenzy something like 43M tonnes was being delivered, now it's in the tens of thousands. 100M tonnes of steel demand in shipping alone is now gone.
Barnett is also crazy in giving the juniors a rebate on royalties. They're going to die. What's the point of propping them up when the I/O price will never remain high enough to make them sustainable? The more you support uneconomic production, the more we lose.
Also remember it was the current resource minister Ian macfarlane pretty much said on getting into office "We've got to make sure that every molecule of gas that can come out of the ground does so." He's also out still pushing for increased CSG on the east coast, yet wont ensure it's reserved for local use, so any increase in production is shipped out the country.
From David Uren at the Australia
Rumour has it there's been some activity around FMG. Possibly the Chinese are looking to prop him up. If China can engineer enough backdoor support to keep FMG going then it will have effective control of 200 million tonnes of Pilbara iron ore and it is game over for the iron ore price permanently.
Do you really believe Abbott would have the balls to say no to the Chinese if they made a take over offer, or at least asked for majority ownership of FMG?
There is no win with you, is there? It is Labor all the way.
Seems pointless, putting up any suggestions, that any LNP members, Federal or State are worth anything.
Can't wait to see the next Labor fiasco unfold.
I rack my que.
Get off your soap box, boy.
Try these quotes for someone showing disrespect for the PM.
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Pot calling the kettle black.
explod is a decent bloke with more than his own self interest at heart.
Chinese-linked companies have applied to the Foreign Investment Review Board seeking permission for an investment involving Fortescue Metals Group.
Australia’s third-largest iron ore producer has held discussions with China’s largest steel producer, Baosteel, and China’s largest conglomerate, CITIC, about a recapitalision to shore up its balance sheet.
It is unclear if the applications to FIRB are from CITIC or Baosteel but sources said there is interest in Fortescue from one or more companies which are Chinese or part-Chinese owned.
From the AFR
I hear on sportsbet it's already an odds on favourite for Hockey to wave it through. When the thoughts at Liberal HG will be on the media cycle:
* Govt allows thousand of FMG jobs to go in collapse
or
* Chinese investment saves thousands of FMG employees with the promise of increase jobs in the future.
If the Liberals are truly worried about the ToT and long term price of I/O then allowing the Chinese any form of controll or propping up of FMG would see a very long term price at close to the cost of production for BHP and Rio. Not much in the way of profits. Heck, allowing any mine to run long term at a loss is against the national interest.
The problem is Syd, if they wave it through, you and all the Laborites will 'bag it'.
If they knock it back, you and the Laborites will 'bag it'.
You're lack of balanced comment, de values, your otherwise excellent posts.IMO
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You better get used to reading this type of response, particularly if you live in W.A.
So what is your position on this issue sptrawler, let us know, so we can "bag" you also.
Nope. Labor are generally complicit.
But how does anything get better when the current "leaders" are all about the NOW and sugar hit for the economy rather than the long term?
What's the point of encouraging further overproduction of our resources?
One of the options on the survey in the article is for year 12 only and 16 dills have given it the thumbs up.I see now, the LNP want to make maths and science compulsory, in year 11 and 12.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pa...ience-in-year-12/story-fngqim8m-1227368782277
One of the options on the survey in the article is for year 12 only and 16 dills have given it the thumbs up.
On dills and economics, GST and tampons shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. That's the kind of thing Labor would suggest.
The problem is Syd, if they wave it through, you and all the Laborites will 'bag it'.
If they knock it back, you and the Laborites will 'bag it'.
You're lack of balanced comment, de values, your otherwise excellent posts.IMO
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