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I don't follow. How can the work not be available to locals in the first place?
Maybe they don't want to work for $2 per hour ?
My guess is that employers don't want to get involved with locals because locals have the capacity to organise and complain about pay and conditions whereas backpackers will take anything they can get. Also I think there would be a few 'grey nomads' who would follow the fruit picking around to finance their holidays.
Conditions, rates hire and fire at will not to mention pressure on locals to accept any thing a employer asks.
The right wing want a US system of working poor class
I imagine you're referring here to David Leyonjhelm.
When you refer above to "Republicans who are libertarians", what do you mean? Are you talking about US Republicans (who would surely be essentially aligned with our notion of Conservatives) or people in Australia who want a Republic?
I'm now completely confused about what you want. A typical Conservative is Cory Bernadi? Is he the sort of role model you want? Conservatives in Australia tend to be sexist, prefer the monarchy to a Republic, abhor abortion, and absolutely do not want such as gay marriage.
Is that in line with your thinking? I wouldn't have thought so from your past comments.
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Labor will be breaking out the champagne Abbotts the best chance they have of re-election.
Yes, USA Republicans, and Cory Bernardi is a good example of that type of libertarian thinking, I mean he even followed the Republicans around on their campaign.
Can you really describe a Right Wing Christian Conservative as "libertarian", when they oppose such things as abortion, the right to die and Gay Marriage ?
"Cory Bernardi a libertarian" is an oxymoron.
Pretty much my interpretation of 'libertarian' also. I don't quite see the point of taking American definitions to apply here when the meanings of terms are so often quite different.Can you really describe a Right Wing Christian Conservative as "libertarian", when they oppose such things as abortion, the right to die and Gay Marriage ?
"Cory Bernardi a libertarian" is an oxymoron.
Do you have links for all your so called reports or are these reports similar to Gillian Trigg just to suit the Green/Labor left wing socialist..Her report was all a pack of lies. So I would not be surprised if your reports were designed to discredit the Liberal Government and also stretching the truth to the limit.
Wages have increase more under the Liberals than Labor.....statistics are there to prove it.
Google is your friend.
If you believe what I've posted is false do a bit of research.
I don't see the point of providing false information as it's just too easy to check it.
What's the difference between an "illegal" immigrant on a leaky boat and an A380 457 Visa holder who is "illegally" working in a different position or for a different employer?
Do you believe there should be no limit to the number of 457 Visas issued by the Govt? Abbott does.
How do younger workers gain access to the job market when the Govt allows employers to easily gain access to workers who will work for below minimum pay. There's reports of migration companies in Asia selling 457 Visa jobs to unsuspecting workers who end up in a form of debt slavery here.
I don't know how you can support bringing in a "skilled" worker who can't speak or write English at a decent level. The already lax standards have been effectively neutered. What other country allows foreigners such easy access to local jobs?
Then there's something like 230-250K of people on working holiday visas in the country in any one year, who are able to double their stay to 2 years via the Howard initiative of working for 3 months in a rural job. The farmers using shoddy labour hire companies know these people want to stay longer so their working conditions are nowhere near where they should be. Why hire a local when you can hire a desperate backpacker. That's what Smurf was trying to get at. A lot of jobs in the fruit and vegetable picking industry aren't available to locals because they know their rights and would complain.
Then there's all the foreign students being used by the retail industry. Sadly it's often people from their home country taking advantage of them. I've known many Thai and Indo students over the years working on way below minimum pay, turning up for a 6 hour shift only to be told to go home after 2 hours because it's quiet.
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The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) has just released its Wage Price Index for the December quarter of 2014, which revealed a continuation of soft wages growth across the economy, with annual wages growth also tracking at the lowest rate in the series’ 16-year history
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We're zeroing in on recession we had to have levels.
Go team Abbott.
That graph in 2009 is not a good reflection on Labor.
The reference could be the difference between private sector and public sector wage outcomes over that period.Noco, you are either a master troll or incredibly stupid. What happened in 2008/2009? GFC
You didn't read my post.See you avoided the moral dilemma of how children are treated in detention
Noco, you are either a master troll or incredibly stupid. What happened in 2008/2009? GFC
That graph in 2009 is not a good reflection on Labor.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ing_abbott_recovery_to_just_49_to_51_against/
..Abbott’s recovery dates from the time he decided he had to stop trying so hard to appease the media Left and repair his relations with the conservative base..
Wages have increase more under the Liberals than Labor.....statistics are there to prove it.
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