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Calliope said:
He doesn't sound very religious to me.:rolleyes: I think he is just another nutter.
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Agree that he has shown no sympathy for religion. But disagree that he is a 'nutter'. I've heard him express some very thoughtful and cogent views, far more intelligent (along with Bob Day, surprisingly enough from "Family First") than those articulated by the Brick and the Lambie.

Mr Leyjonhjelm is the archetypal libertarian which is at least a step up from the unthinking PUP senators, present and past.
 
Encouragement for working women to breed moving forward again with the Government dictating that a 1.5% levy on large business will pay for part of the pregnancy and early childhood years costs. Work for the dole should stir up an ants nest of bludgers quite settled in their routine.
 
Wysiwyg said:
Encouragement for working women to breed moving forward again with the Government dictating that a 1.5% levy on large business will pay for part of the pregnancy and early childhood years costs.
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A bad idea made worse now also with the suggestion of a means test distorting EMTR's even more. :banghead:

TA should simply ditch it altogether. He should have jettesoned it long ago.
 
Galaxy poll: Voters just about ready to ditch Tony Abbott
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ga...hnbsptony-abbott/story-fni0fiyv-1227147184102

The truth is that nobody likes Abbott. When his popularity as a leader fell below that of a dead-beat like Bill Shorten the time has come for Abbott to sling his hook.

Some think he wears a lot of the blame for the Andrews/CFMEU win in Victoria. His name is mud in Queensland and his departure would help Newman's re-election in Queensland. Naturally Labor would like to keep him there as PM. He is their main asset.

Oliver Cromwell's words are very apt;

You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately ... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
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Calliope said:
Galaxy poll: Voters just about ready to ditch Tony Abbott
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ga...hnbsptony-abbott/story-fni0fiyv-1227147184102

The truth is that nobody likes Abbott. When his popularity as a leader fell below that of a dead-beat like Bill Shorten the time has come for Abbott to sling his hook.

Some think he wears a lot of the blame for the Andrews/CFMEU win in Victoria. His name is mud in Queensland and his departure would help Newman's re-election in Queensland. Naturally Labor would like to keep him there as PM. He is their main asset.

Oliver Cromwell's words are very apt;
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I don't think barren, unmarried julia bishop will be such a hit if she has to survive the rough and tumble of domestic politics. So not sure who they are going to turn to.......
 
banco said:
I don't think barren, unmarried julia bishop will be such a hit if she has to survive the rough and tumble of domestic politics. So not sure who they are going to turn to.......
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If you think a little bit of misogyny will help to keep Abbott there then go for it. But I think you are confusing her with Julia Gillard. The contender is Julie Bishop.:rolleyes:

She is 58 years old. She gets my vote.

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Calliope said:
If you think a little bit of misogyny will help to keep Abbott there then go for it. But I think you are confusing her with Julia Gillard. The contender is Julie Bishop.:rolleyes:

She is 58 years old. She gets my vote.
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Gillard's poll numbers were pretty good prior to her taking over the leadership. I'm sure the women of australia will be able to relate her armani suits etc.
 
David Murrays recommendations are in, sounds like he wants negative gearing, capital gains and franking credits hammered.
That should get all the Labor supporters on board.
 
sptrawler said:
David Murrays recommendations are in, sounds like he wants negative gearing, capital gains and franking credits hammered.
That should get all the Labor supporters on board.
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Libs would be hammered if they took all those on board. Nobody cares about labor voters its the swinging voters.
 
sptrawler said:
David Murrays recommendations are in, sounds like he wants negative gearing, capital gains and franking credits hammered.
That should get all the Labor supporters on board.
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They do need to be reviewed in the context of preserving the underlying tax bases as do superannuation concessions but it's a too difficult a challenge for any government.

Necessity though I suspect will prevail in the end.
 
On matters PPL,

Mr Abbott would not reveal the details about the new plan but said his intention was to turn it into a "holistic families package".

"We are going to better target it and we are going re-direct the savings into child care because it needs to be a holistic families package and people do want better child care, more available more affordable childcare as well as paid parental leave," he said.

"That's what this government will be working on, that's what my ministers and I will be working on over summer."
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All they have to do now is ditch the corporate levy and manage any change within the funding of existing programs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-...heme-tony-abbott-acknowledges-concern/5950302
 
Maybe Abbott needs to invoke the memory of John Howards "Lazaraus with a triple bypass".

Trouble is Tony Abbott is no John Howard. The soufflé will not rise again.:D
 
I just can't believe that people are calling for Abbotts head. Yes , he is suffering in the polls but remember that Labor swung back and forward with leaders because of the polls. The Libs would do well to stick to the plan , go the distance and keep Abbott. Does anyone out there truly believe that any new chosen leader would soon be in the same situation ? If Labor get back in , 6 months later the general public at large would also poll them poorly.
I think what we saw under the Labor Government term was more a reflection of todays society. The general public in this day and age have the attention span of goldfish. It sort of reminds me of that mobile phone mentality that's in our society. You get a new phone , the old one was perceived as useless and crap. Six months later they see a new model and want to dump the new one . Society as a whole has become bored , they need constant stimulation and excitement. Politics are no different. :2twocents
 
Ijustnewit said:
I just can't believe that people are calling for Abbotts head. Yes , he is suffering in the polls but remember that Labor swung back and forward with leaders because of the polls. The Libs would do well to stick to the plan , go the distance and keep Abbott. Does anyone out there truly believe that any new chosen leader would soon be in the same situation ? If Labor get back in , 6 months later the general public at large would also poll them poorly.
I think what we saw under the Labor Government term was more a reflection of todays society. The general public in this day and age have the attention span of goldfish. It sort of reminds me of that mobile phone mentality that's in our society. You get a new phone , the old one was perceived as useless and crap. Six months later they see a new model and want to dump the new one . Society as a whole has become bored , they need constant stimulation and excitement. Politics are no different. :2twocents
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I can't speak for others, but I always thought people who:

robot voted like their parents;
voted differently to me;
were binary in their politics;
comfortable with tribal politics;
listened to shock jocks and trash journos;
believed the newspapers and privateers;

were incapable of making qualitative decisions. I often wonder how voters will stick like glue to their voter choice even when it turns out to be a lemon vote ..analogous to buying a Monday Falcon and insisting it's is better than a Tuesday Kingswood, regardless of the thing being a POS.
 
Tisme said:
I can't speak for others, but I always thought people who:

robot voted like their parents;
voted differently to me;
were binary in their politics;
comfortable with tribal politics;
listened to shock jocks and trash journos;
believed the newspapers and privateers;

were incapable of making qualitative decisions. I often wonder how voters will stick like glue to their voter choice even when it turns out to be a lemon vote ..analogous to buying a Monday Falcon and insisting it's is better than a Tuesday Kingswood, regardless of the thing being a POS.
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Just a question , do you think that if we changed Government or Leaders that 6 months later the Polls would be against whomever was chosen ?
 
Ijustnewit said:
Just a question , do you think that if we changed Government or Leaders that 6 months later the Polls would be against whomever was chosen ?
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Yep, for several reasons: Newscorp would ramp up its war on the ALP, Malcolm Turnbull would be leader of the opposition, the unions are no longer a great decoy for blame.


We need a warrior king or Boadicea that we can all love and all hate; someone who is prepared to be knocked around and come back time and time again. Someone who sets the growth agenda and sticks to it with time for people and business to adjust, not someone who takes policy from professional public servants = modern 2015 model Hawke, Keating or Howard would be my preference and I would forgive them making errors so long as they had a crack.

Chances of Labor repeating the drover's dog ascension are fairly ripe for the next election, we just need the dog.
 
Message to the Abbott Government:

Drop the PPL - don't tinker with it, just drop it.

Drop the GP co-payment - don't tinker with it, just drop it.

I don't know who is advising this government but they have wasted a great opportunity to put Labor to sleep for a while (where they belong).

The Government have shot themselves in the foot over and over again.

Just use common sense.

Joe Hockey - its end of the age of entitlement - but we will introduce a very generous PPL (shot it the foot!)

Tony Abbott - there is a budget crisis - but we will introduce a very generous PPL (shot it the foot!)
- there is a budget crisis - but we will introduce a GP co-payment, the proceeds of which won't
go to reducing the crisis debt (shot it the foot!)

Tony your government is performing so badly that people are looking at Labor despite six years of absolute rubbish and ruin.

Shame on you. You might be a Rhodes scholar but you don't have any common sense!
 
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