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Calliope said:
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I think some action is needed to show Obama after his gross bad manners, that we cannot be taken for granted. Julie bishop should tell the Americans that they can no longer assume we are at their beck and call like lapdogs.

Tanya Plibersek on the other hand loved Obama'a speech, and;
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Yes and Gillard and Obama were often seen in familiar uncompromising positions from time to time......They both followed the same ideology.
 
Calliope said:
In the link I provided;



I think some action is needed to show Obama after his gross bad manners, that we cannot be taken for granted. Julie bishop should tell the Americans that they can no longer assume we are at their beck and call like lapdogs.

Tanya Plibersek on the other hand loved Obama'a speech, and;
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Seems it's mainly Liberal Govts at the beck and call of the US in recent times.

It was Howard that got us mired in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Abbott has plenty of bodies over in Iraq now too.
 
sydboy007 said:
Seems it's mainly Liberal Govts at the beck and call of the US in recent times.

It was Howard that got us mired in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Abbott has plenty of bodies over in Iraq now too.
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Quite true, and we should stop cosying up to American Presidents...starting with this ignorant clown;

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Calliope said:
Quite true, and we should stop cosying up to American Presidents...starting with this ignorant clown;

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I wonder why what Obama does means so much to you that you stoop to fatuous and facile caricatures such as this ?

Do you actually live in the US, or are you a paid up non resident member of the Tea Party ?

So Obama wants his people to have reasonable health care, so what ? We have had it for decades. Australia hasn't fallen to pieces. It's something we get in return for the taxes we pay and Malcolm Fraser for one paid an electoral price for trying to get rid of Medibank, which shows the support that it has in the electorate.

If Obama wants a similar coverage for Americans then he should be allowed to proceed. It was his stated policy before he became President, and the American people have voted for it, twice.
 
sydboy007 said:
Seems it's mainly Liberal Govts at the beck and call of the US in recent times.

It was Howard that got us mired in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Abbott has plenty of bodies over in Iraq now too.
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So why didn't the Labor Party pull the troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq 2007/2013?

Plenty of troops lost under the Labor watch.
 
I wonder why what Obama does means so much to you that you stoop to fatuous and facile caricatures such as this ?
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I don't give a stuff what Obama does as long as he keeps his nose out of our business.

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drsmith said:
Labor's long term commitments into health, education and the NDIS were too much and without the revenue to pay for it although they did get Treasury to model a rise in the GST.
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All fully supported by Abbott :rolleyes:
 
drsmith said:
Labor's long term commitments into health, education and the NDIS were too much and without the revenue to pay for it although they did get Treasury to model a rise in the GST.
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No Doc, Labor were going to finance all those promises with the money they did not get from the mining tax......they committed the money before they received it and you know the result from Labor's botched scheme.

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I notice some talk on how good Bishop is, lately Bishop has been working over time in raising her political profile mouthing the party line nothing more. Bishop is no intellectual giant I am not aware of her actually building, driving policy of any worth maybe others can correct me.


Tony Abbott keeps digging himself in deeper, and it makes no sense

It’s time for Tony – and Julie and Malcolm – to stop digging. The government is in a couple of truly untenable positions. It keeps digging itself in further.

Take climate change. Tony Abbott and senior ministers were deeply angry at Barack Obama’s show-stealing climate change speech during the G20. We know because they have been briefing News Ltd columnists to that effect all week – including graphic accounts of how they rang up afterwards and yelled at state department officials for failing to give a “heads up” that the president was going to “dump on” the PM.

Putting aside for one second the extraordinary position we are in when a speech that calls for an ambitious global climate deal and points out Australia has a lot to lose from a warming climate is seen as “dumping” on our prime minister, let’s think about how government ministers could have responded.

They could have tried to defuse the argument – responding to Obama’s call by pointing out that Australia has promised a new longer-term emissions reduction target and will reveal it soon. In fact, as soon as they said that, they also chose to escalate the row with some embarrassingly stupid arguments.
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http://www.theguardian.com/australi...gging-himself-in-deeper-and-it-makes-no-sense
 
noco said:
No Doc, Labor were going to finance all those promises with the money they did not get from the mining tax......they committed the money before they received it and you know the result from Labor's botched scheme.

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Yawn............Abbott supported and promised the same while claiming no tax increases were needed to fund nor were cuts in spending required he was going to fund it all by cutting Labors excessive spending...........

14 months of Abbott, debt is still rising and so is Government spending
 
IFocus said:
Yawn............Abbott supported and promised the same while claiming no tax increases were needed to fund nor were cuts in spending required he was going to fund it all by cutting Labors excessive spending...........

14 months of Abbott, debt is still rising and so is Government spending
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And whose fault is that...you whistle and I will point.

You just don't get it do you....your repetitive rhetoric is becoming so boring.
 
IFocus said:
I notice some talk on how good Bishop is, lately Bishop has been working over time in raising her political profile mouthing the party line nothing more. Bishop is no intellectual giant I am not aware of her actually building, driving policy of any worth maybe others can correct me.


Tony Abbott keeps digging himself in deeper, and it makes no sense




http://www.theguardian.com/australi...gging-himself-in-deeper-and-it-makes-no-sense
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Wishful thinking by you and the Commo Guardian and the good old Fabian Lenore Taylor.
 
IFocus said:
All fully supported by Abbott :rolleyes:
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You must like being constantly plucked.

Labor's modelling on the GST was done in secret. This government is at least more out in the open. Labor's modelling only came out because they thought they'd bang this government over the head with it. How daft was that.

This government has also pulled unfunded long term Labor spending from the health and education budgets. Have you forgotten about the states screaming over that at budget time ?

This government with the GST is effectively saying to the states that if they want Labor's long term funding increases to health and education, they need a revenue source. That's at least more honest and fiscally responsible than when Labor promised the money without revealing how they were going to fund it.
 
drsmith said:
You must like being constantly plucked.

Labor's modelling on the GST was done in secret. This government is at least more out in the open. Labor's modelling only came out because they thought they'd bang this government over the head with it. How daft was that.

This government has also pulled unfunded long term Labor spending from the health and education budgets. Have you forgotten about the states screaming over that at budget time ?

This government with the GST is effectively saying to the states that if they want Labor's long term funding increases to health and education, they need a revenue source. That's at least more honest and fiscally responsible than when Labor promised the money without revealing how they were going to fund it.
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They promised the money they thought they were going to get from their hare brain schemes....they bought an old cow that could deliver the milk and a duck that could not lay the golden eggs.
 
You guys can spin the current situation any way you like but I think Abbotts screwed seriously as all the chooks come home to rest.

He is currently behind a very second rate opposition leader (Shorten) who bleats sound awful as he waves through some shocking pieces of legislation (jailing jurnos for tens years etc) if he cannot get ahead of Shorten then clearly there is a problem.

Abbott has constantly looked woeful and now with the ABC cuts a lie on a lie no wonder Bishop is out there looking like a leader with the usual press coverage.


Note the trends are all heading the wrong way.
 
IFocus said:
You guys can spin the current situation any way you like but I think Abbotts screwed seriously as all the chooks come home to rest.

He is currently behind a very second rate opposition leader (Shorten) who bleats sound awful as he waves through some shocking pieces of legislation (jailing jurnos for tens years etc) if he cannot get ahead of Shorten then clearly there is a problem.

Abbott has constantly looked woeful and now with the ABC cuts a lie on a lie no wonder Bishop is out there looking like a leader with the usual press coverage.


Note the trends are all heading the wrong way.
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Yes, it is unbelievable.......the Green/Labor left wing socialists wreck the economy of this country, they sabotage the recovery and then become good guys......There are so many naive people being polled.

It looks like they really want to go back to the bad old days of the Rudd/Gillrad/Rudd era....OK, if that is what they want, so be it.
 
noco said:
Yes, it is unbelievable.......the Green/Labor left wing socialists wreck the economy of this country, they sabotage the recovery and then become good guys......There are so many naive people being polled.

It looks like they really want to go back to the bad old days of the Rudd/Gillrad/Rudd era....OK, if that is what they want, so be it.
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I certainly wouldn't be backing an outcome this far out, noco.

Channel 10, the SMH, the Age and the ABC, have more problems than Abbott.:D

They may be pro Labor, but if their following is anything to go by, Abbott hasn't got a worry.:xyxthumbs
 
noco said:
Maybe it the recession we had to have ( ah la Paul Keating).

And we have no money in the piggy bank to cover it thanks to our Fabian friends.
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The recession to come (if in fact it is not already here) is from the world ecoonomic state AS IT WAS IN THE RECESSION WE HAD TO HAVE.

Unless of course we pay our workforce a coupla dollars an hour. But then there would be bugger all tax and the AFL would close down. We are part of the world stage and all the politica jawboning in the world on who may be right or wrong dose not add up to a fig.
 
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