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sydboy007 said:
Abbott version is estimated to cost $5.5B, or roughly 3 times the cost of the current system introduced by Labor.
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In that case there would be a saving of $1.86 billion from Labor's current scheme which could go to the lNP PPL scheme, leaving $3.72 billion paid in as a levy from big business.

Personally, I am opposed to such a scheme and also the same scheme that has been operating for some time with public servants including female politicians.
 
orr said:
Did any of Hawke's kiddy's enjoy a very secret scholarship doled out as a political favour to the value of $60 odd grand by a strong supporter of the labor party? as Tony's Daughter has from one of his party's sops.
And then when the secret scholarship was brought to the attention of the public, A very important matter of public interest...... 'crucify' the messenger. Very dangerous to embarrass the powerful..
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This comment made else where made me smile

"In 1974, Gough Whitlam abolished university fees for all Australians. In 2014, Tony Abbott abolished university fees for his daughter."
 
IFocus said:
This comment made else where made me smile

"In 1974, Gough Whitlam abolished university fees for all Australians. In 2014, Tony Abbott abolished university fees for his daughter."
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If you have a "guts ache" go to the toilet!!
 
Just received an email from change.org on the progress for confirming if Tony Abbott has in fact renounced his UK citizenship.

Tony Abbott's office responds to FOI request: Form RN cannot be found and/or does not exist.

How can Tony remain as PM if he cannot prove he is complying with Australian law i.e. he has renounced his UK citizenship?

This issue occurred 10 years ago when Eric Abetz was elected while still a German Citizen. He was required to vacate his seat.

I'm wondering what legal ramifications this could have. Could groups start high court challenges against Government legislation on the basis that the PM may have dual citizenship?

If the current PM cannot prove he has renounced his UK citizenship, then his only option is to stand down, possibly vacating his seat as well, until such time he can provide adequate documentation showing he is complying with Australian law.
 
sydboy007 said:
Just received an email from change.org on the progress for confirming if Tony Abbott has in fact renounced his UK citizenship.

Tony Abbott's office responds to FOI request: Form RN cannot be found and/or does not exist.

How can Tony remain as PM if he cannot prove he is complying with Australian law i.e. he has renounced his UK citizenship?

This issue occurred 10 years ago when Eric Abetz was elected while still a German Citizen. He was required to vacate his seat.

I'm wondering what legal ramifications this could have. Could groups start high court challenges against Government legislation on the basis that the PM may have dual citizenship?

If the current PM cannot prove he has renounced his UK citizenship, then his only option is to stand down, possibly vacating his seat as well, until such time he can provide adequate documentation showing he is complying with Australian law.
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I'm amazed that questions have not been asked in Parliament on this issue.

Maybe the Opposition also has a few things they don't want exposed, or that the opposition know there are no grounds for enquiring.

Also, what would happen if he did actually renounce his dual citizenship, but this happened AFTER he became an MP ? Would he still be required to stand down ?
 
I don't think anyone in politics would consider being English is at odds with Australian cultural and political ambition.

It's bad enough being born English, but to have it thrown in your face must be agony! :rolleyes:
 
Stephen Koukoulas


Tony Abbott's recent consideration of GST hikes is more about covering his costly policy priorities than plugging a revenue hole in the budget over the next decade, writes Stephen Koukoulas.

The facts show that Treasurer Hockey's budget in May delivered government payments, as a share of GDP, at 25.3 per cent in 2014-15 and it will remain at or above 24.7 per cent throughout the forward estimates. By way of contrast, the last three Labor budgets had government payments to GDP averaging 24.6 per cent.

If Mr Abbott and Treasurer Hockey were in fact fiscally tight and their budget cut government payments to, say, 24.1 per cent of GDP, the level delivered in the last full year of the Labor government in 2012-13, the current tax take without hiking the GST would see the budget deficit of 0.1 per cent of GDP in 2015-16 and a surplus in 2016-17 and beyond, even with the expensive spending plans of Mr Abbott.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-28/koukoulas-why-is-abbott-considering-a-gst-hike/5845256
 
IFocus said:
Tony Abbott's recent consideration of GST hikes is more about covering his costly policy priorities than plugging a revenue hole in the budget over the next decade, writes Stephen Koukoulas.
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The funniest thing about about Labor's ranting over the GST is that in government, they got treasury to model raising it and that backfired spectacularly on them in question time today.

Then there's Labor blocking spending cuts in the senate including their own. Let's not forget it's Labor's legacy this government is trying to deal with.
 
Ifocus, you may be enthralled with the status quo, where we keep running a 'fun park' economy. However sooner or later someone has to pay for it.

I just hope it is the slum lords and the property tycoons.lol

The problem with the current stale mate is, the debt becomes bigger and the cuts will eventually become greater.
It's a shame that Labor can't be honest, with the people they are supposed to represent.

Do you think with the debt and deficit blowing out, it will be better for the masses, if they defer cuts?

You know and I know, the longer they defer the cuts, the bigger they will be.
 
drsmith said:
The funniest thing about about Labor's ranting over the GST is that in government, they got treasury to model raising it and that backfired spectacularly on them in question time today.

Then there's Labor blocking spending cuts in the senate including their own. Let's not forget it's Labor's legacy this government is trying to deal with.
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It amazes me Doc, that the Labor barnacles can't see the lunacy to their arguement.

They stuffed it, they had two terms to fix it, now they won't let anyone repair it.

Priceless stupidity.

I think dopy Shorten is thinking, he will be able to say, "look the coalition were going to cut spending, we stopped it"
The coalition will say, "The debt has blown out to $x, put Labor in and it will be 4$x. Sooner or later we go broke".

Labor is being stupid, let the coalition bring in the cuts and fix the economy. Then say we will cut the austerity, Shorten is too dumb for words.
 
Tony Abbott pleaded with the Business Council to argue his case for tax "reform" to the community.

It's a sure sign that he knows that his own credibility with the electorate is so shot that he can't carry the debate himself, so he needs someone else to argue the case for him. How pathetic. A PM that can't argue his case and carry the people with him is a PM not worth having. It's time he went and let someone more articulate take up the case.

And having the business community argue a case in the national interest is also pathetic. They will argue for their own interests and not the interests of the wider community. It's also clear who the government is governing for, and it's not the average voter.
 
SirRumpole said:
Tony Abbott pleaded with the Business Council to argue his case for tax "reform" to the community.

It's a sure sign that he knows that his own credibility with the electorate is so shot that he can't carry the debate himself, so he needs someone else to argue the case for him. How pathetic. A PM that can't argue his case and carry the people with him is a PM not worth having. It's time he went and let someone more articulate take up the case.

And having the business community argue a case in the national interest is also pathetic. They will argue for their own interests and not the interests of the wider community. It's also clear who the government is governing for, and it's not the average voter.
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This great man is listening to the people and that is his job unlike those dictatorial FABIANS who say "THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER THE GOVERNMENT I LEAD" and then impose it on us whether we liked or not and adding hundreds of dollars to the cost of living.

Abbott said prior to the 2013 election, there would be no increase in the GST during his 3 year term and there will be no increase until after 2016 and it would have been taken to the next election as did John Howard, but the Fabians twist it around when there is any mention of it and the cry is, Abbott has broken his promise not to increase the GST.......but let me remind you that in parliament yesterday during question time the Fabians were caught out when it was revealed by treasury that the Fabians had carried out modelling to increase the GST during their last term in office......Mr Swan knows all about it and now, so does the whole world........the Fabians were challenged in parliament yesterday to table the document for which they so closely guarded.....what a mob of hypocrites........I will tell you something, the Fabians would not have had the gutz to have taken it to an election as part of their policy.

Changes to the GST will come up for discussion in the next 2 years and the Fabians should be big enough to have a mature discussion about some variations in the interest of the nation.....the Fabians want it and all the states want it, so the Fabians should stop playing politics and start acting like adults.

If anyone is short of credibility it is Shorten.
 
bigdog said:
ONE TERM TONY
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With George Brandis and Julie Bishop already garnering support, he may be a less than one term Tony.

It's doubtful the Labor party is any threat to a Lib govt at the next election given their inability to politically skewer their enemies.
 
Tisme said:
With George Brandis and Julie Bishop already garnering support, he may be a less than one term Tony.

It's doubtful the Labor party is any threat to a Lib govt at the next election given their inability to politically skewer their enemies.
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Abbott will lead the Coalition government to another term.

The electorate will remember the shambolic and costly six years of the Rudd/Gillard governments.

We will be paying for their waste for years.

We cannot afford to forget.

Labors' refusal to allow the government to rectify the debt will necessitate alternate measures to be considered.
 
The sloganeering has lost it's impact. No one really believes the sky is going to fall as the imperative was portrayed. It just looks like the govt cant govern or negotiate and apparently Ms Gillard has garnered a new support base from the hindsighters who wonder how she managed to get bills/legislation through an even more hostile opposition.
 
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