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Julia said:
The government’s school chaplaincy program has already faced two High Court challenges and may soon face a third. Victoria’s special religious instruction classes are just as controversial, with hundreds of parents withdrawing their children in recent months. Hagar Cohen reports.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2014-08-31/5699360
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However, under law, Access Ministries are not allowed to attempt to convert children. The group’s CEO, Dawn Penney, says evangelism is not the point of the classes.

‘No, we do not proselytise; it is not something we promote,’ she says. ‘It is clearly in our training that it is not the way that we wish Access Ministries to be seen in the school.’
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One wonders then, exactly what the point of the classes are.
 
Julia said:
The government’s school chaplaincy program has already faced two High Court challenges and may soon face a third. Victoria’s special religious instruction classes are just as controversial, with hundreds of parents withdrawing their children in recent months. Hagar Cohen reports.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2014-08-31/5699360
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It remains the only bone that can be given to the the theocons in the Abbott Government (including the PM himself).
 
noco said:
For the same reason Labor sold the Commonwealth Bank to pay off Labor's bad debt.

The coalition is selling Medibankd to pay off Labor's bad debt again.
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And the 3 Telstra floats?

Dont tell me, its all Labor isn't it...even with surging government revenues and almost zero debt, it was Labors fault.
 
Tolerance is a critical value in a western liberal democracy like Australia. It was for this reason that I intended to address the World Congress of Families meeting in Melbourne tomorrow.

The calls for me not to attend demonstrate the intolerance of the Greens and the left -instead of arguing their case in the public arena they seek to shut down debate.

-- Kevin Andrews.

Security issues yet again .......the only way they know how.
 
So_Cynical said:
And the 3 Telstra floats?

Dont tell me, its all Labor isn't it...even with surging government revenues and almost zero debt, it was Labors fault.
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Howard sold off Telstra to pay of Keatings Labor debt of $86 billion.

You Fabians have such short memories or perhaps you may have still been in nappies then.
 
noco said:
Howard sold off Telstra to pay of Keatings Labor debt of $86 billion.

You Fabians have such short memories or perhaps you may have still been in nappies then.
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Noco 'old darling' sit down have a horlicks. Now google 'future fund/ telstra' you might learn something about where the money came from and what it was for...
Now for the hard part, 'Neo Conservative Economic Rationalisation' . There's a bit in, it so best you start now. It will explain a lot, even about the sale of the CBA.

From deep inside the Carapace... orr.

p.s Milan Kundera — 'The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting'............. but it helps to remember the right things.
 
banco said:
It remains the only bone that can be given to the the theocons in the Abbott Government (including the PM himself).
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So some of their mates can get on the Board and the CO will get a 5 mil a year pay packet with bonuses. I think Telstra may even be better than that, let's make it 10 mil plus. :rolleyes:

First lots of shares are usually allocated via brokers to big players to get it all started. Be a good one to watch noco.
 
noco said:
Howard sold off Telstra to pay of Keatings Labor debt of $86 billion.
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I doubt that was the real motivation. It's like saying someone sold off their house to repay the mortgage. Or is closing a business in order to repay business loans. It's not a rational thing to do unless you have either no choice (which wasn't the situation at the time) or some other motivation for wanting out of the house, business etc.

Telstra was sold for ideological reasons and it's the same with most other privatisations. :2twocents
 
sydboy007 said:
Adding a few zeros to various large banks deposits in the USA and EU doesn't seem to have the same weimar effect like it used to.
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Its a bit like the earth heat sink effect woth global warming. They have spread the paper creation lending ponzie over a much greater area.

The coming weimer will stuff the whole western show this time.

In my very humble opinion, of course.
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Tony Abbott names white settlement as Australia's 'defining moment', remark draws Indigenous ire


Indigenous figures including the chair of the Prime Minister's Indigenous Advisory Council are furious that Tony Abbott has highlighted white settlement as the defining moment in Australian history.

The Prime Minister made the comment while he was launching a project on the 100 Defining Moments in Australian History at the National Museum of Australia in Canberra on Friday.

"The arrival of the First Fleet was the defining moment in the history of this continent. Let me repeat that, it was the defining moment in the history of this continent," he said.

"It was the moment this continent became part of the modern world."

His remarks about drew swift condemnation from Warren Mundine, the chair of the Prime Minister's own advisory panel.
Audio: Disastrously defining: Indigenous Australians criticise Abbott's comments on white settlement (AM)

"Well it was a defining moment, there's no argument about that. It was also a disastrous defining moment for Indigenous people," Mr Mundine said.

Mr Abbott said British settlement provided the foundation for Australia to become one of the most prosperous societies on Earth.

Mr Mundine said that is true, but not everyone is benefiting.

"Does that mean that Aboriginal people have prospered from that? Of course not," he said.

"We're miles behind everyone else and in fact I wouldn't be sitting in this job if Aboriginal people did prosper. There wouldn't be a need for the chair of the Indigenous Advisory Council or the council as a whole."
PM 'not speaking for all Australians'

The head of the Stolen Generation Council for New South Wales and the ACT, Matilda House, said the Prime Minister's comments are ridiculous.

"I think politicians really don't think when they make these one-liners," she said.

"I can't fathom how a ship or a boat sailed into Sydney Harbour can overtake the 60,000 years before."

The co-chair of the National Congress of Australia's First Peoples, Kirstie Parker, said the Prime Minister is not speaking to all Australians.

"I think it speaks only to a particular section of Australian society. It doesn't speak to all Australians," she said.

"That's a pity because I think it sets us back somewhat.

"This notion that the real Australia, the true Australia, the good and modern Australia started in 1788 is of course offensive to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people."

Six historians helped compile the list of 100 defining moments, including historian Professor John Maynard, who is also Indigenous.

"We were a little bit disturbed, to say the least, by that particular comment, the way that it was framed. But as I said, I mean, he's open to have his opinion," he said.

Deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss said white settlement is a significant part of Australia's history but it is not the only thing to be proud of.

He said it changed the country in very dramatic ways, but he acknowledged the contribution of the Indigenous population.

"There were Aboriginal people here before. Their way of recording history was different from what there has been since there has been European settlement," he said.

"We're proud of all of our past."

Last month, Mr Abbott was criticised for saying Australia had been "unsettled" before the First Fleet arrived.

"The comments were highly offensive, dismissive of Indigenous peoples and simply incorrect," Senator Nova Peris said.

Mr Abbott also nominated the birth of Rupert Murdoch's newspaper The Australian in 1964 as another defining moment.

Professor Maynard, who is director of the Wollotuka Institute at the University of Newcastle, also does not believe the establishment of the newspaper belongs in the top 100.

"I'm sure we could all put down 100 moments and we'd all have different perspectives on what those 100 would be, but no, I wouldn't have The Australian there as one of the 100 defining moments," he said.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-30/pm-comment-on-defining-moment-angers-indigenous-groups/5707926
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Technically he may be right, but do some things always need to be said ?
 
How high is the rising unemployment rate again?

The Liberal daily hasn't mentioned it

Foreign worker influx for Darwin looms

FOREIGN workers could arrive within months under a new migration scheme for Darwin and other areas hit by chronic skills shortages, amid a political firestorm over the idea.

The Abbott government insisted the skilled foreign workers could not be paid less than a local employee in the face of furious claims from Labor and unions that wages would be cut.

Authorities in Darwin and the Pilbara are hoping to gain *approval for the regional migration agreements to fill a growing skills gap, as locals leave their jobs to join giant resource projects.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...for-darwin-looms/story-fn9hm1gu-1227041872161
 
sptrawler said:
Funny I thought when I heard about the Shorten rape allegations, lucky it wasn't Abbott, the media would be feral about it.

Obviously others thought the same way.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/imagine-if-tony-abbott-had-been-accused-of-rape--20140829-109zcr.html
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Well Abbott was charged with indecent assault
The case involved an allegation that Mr Abbott, then a 20-year-old student leader in the heady days of campus politics, groped a woman activist on stage before an audience of 200.
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and later dismissed. I haven't heard Labor or lefties bring this up so I think you have your answer and Vanstone is just creating a storm in a teacup.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/17/1089694611809.html
 
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