Syrian Civil War

[moXJO]

During the Skype conversation, they said that the gas attack on the two neighbourhoods in Damascus had been carried out by rebels as a provocation, to push the West towards a military intervention. They also said they believed the death toll had been exaggerated,” Quirico said in his statement.


From the 2013 article. He admits himself that it is all hearsay, but fits the objective.

 

[moXJO]

So tell us your version of the 'real' story.

An examination of a White Helmets video, conducted by Swedish medical doctors, specialists in various fields, including paediatrics, have revealed that the life-saving procedures seen in the film are incorrect – in fact life-threatening – or simply fake, including simulated emergency resuscitation techniques being used on already lifeless children.

The Alleged Sarmin Attack
There has been a recent, intense, publicity campaign that has capitalised on the Oscar for best documentary being awarded to the NATO and Gulf state funded organization, the White Helmets and their Netflix documentary producers [1] The White Helmets had previously been winners of the “Alternative Nobel Prize”, given to them in Sweden in 2016. [2] These various awards have ensured that the White Helmet fictitious “saving-childrens-lives” videos have been re-circulating across corporate and social media, a major PR coup for the sponsors of this questionable organization.

Central to this PR campaign and just prior to the Oscar award ceremony, Human Rights Watch published a “retrospective” report on February 13th 2017, focusing on spurious accounts of chemical attacks on the recently liberated city of Aleppo. This familiar HRW propaganda piece recycled a previous report from April 2015 detailing an alleged chlorine gas attack in Sarmin, Idlib [4].

Footage of the aftermath of this attack was provided, at the time, by none other than the White Helmets, which brings us to the macabre video, uploaded by this alleged first responder NGO to YouTube on March 15th 2015 [5]



Not sure how accurate the above is but do a search, then stop eating MSM sh.it

 

[SirRumpole]

Not sure how accurate the above is but do a search, then stop eating MSM sh.it

I usually get my news from the ABC. They are the least prone to hyperbole, exaggerate, lie or broadcast fake news.

Sometimes they get it wrong like anyone else but I would trust them over any other news outlet.

 

[qldfrog]

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During the Skype conversation, they said that the gas attack on the two neighbourhoods in Damascus had been carried out by rebels as a provocation, to push the West towards a military intervention. They also said they believed the death toll had been exaggerated,” Quirico said in his statement.


From the 2013 article. He admits himself that it is all hearsay, but fits the objective.

he reason I am not sure there was ever a chemical attack is the source mof the information: I find the article:
where it started:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/fed...-weapons-deaths-in-syria-20170404-gvdvu0.html
I quote:
"Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop joined condemnation of the gas attack against the opposition-held town of Khan Sheikhoun, in which the London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least 58 civilians, including 11 children, were..."
-> a well known speaker for the islamists
and then when I looked then(earler this week i believe) at the witness describing chlorine and suspected nerve agent the name of this british humanitarian "aid worker" was a mr "uzmul" (not sure) Islam (family name)..should I say more; a british converted in Syria with 95% probability;
And we want to start a war on that?

last month ISIS was doing: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4281070/ISIS-guilty-war-crime-chemical-weapon-attack.html
and a week or so ago ISIS massacred an australian toddler in the complete indifference here;
War are terrible,but I am sure fake news are present there,,,
I still believe till proven wrong that Assad is a lesser evil, as Khadafi would have been if the west had had any sense.
The real question is why has Trump decided the strike: show of force, national or international politics?

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[qldfrog]

and then when I looked then(earler this week i believe) at the witness describing chlorine and suspected nerve agent the name of this british humanitarian "aid worker" was a mr "uzmul" (not sure) Islam (family name)..should I say more; a british converted in Syria with 95% probability;

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here is the name and a video of our witness:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/04/05/khan-sheikhoun-chemical-attack-evidence-far/
I do not specifically trust that site but that name and citation of Mr Islam was the one reported in mainstream media

 

[moXJO]

I usually get my news from the ABC. They are the least prone to hyperbole, exaggerate, lie or broadcast fake news.

Sometimes they get it wrong like anyone else but I would trust them over any other news outlet.

They cut and paste the same bs as everyone else.

 

[moXJO]

The real question is why has Trump decided the strike: show of force, national or international politics?

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Trump was in a meeting with the Chinese president Xi Jinping when the whole thing went down. Fancy that.
A very big power move. North Korea, China and Russia would have got the message.

 

[luutzu]

Trump was in a meeting with the Chinese president Xi Jinping when the whole thing went down. Fancy that.
A very big power move. North Korea, China and Russia would have got the message.

They got the message since at least 2001 when Afghanistan then Iraq was overthrown in a couple of weeks a piece.

The message was not to crawl into a fetal position and suck their thumb. Even the Iranian didn't do that - and they got the US calling them an Axis of Evil and just took over both their neighbours.

The message to Iran was to better hurry up with that nuclear bomb.

The message to Russia, and this they got in the 90s with Georgia etc., was to better not let NATO march any closer to its borders.

The message to China was to claim and militarise the entire South and Eastern seaboard. Just in case that pivot to Asia slam both door shut and they have to watch hundreds of millions of their people starve and/or turn on them when the poo hit the fan.

So maybe it's the wrong kind of message the US have been sending. But it's already received and hopefully they all blink on this one.


btw, Xi is known to ban his top brass from playing golf. I guess Trump thought the guy was only faking it. Maybe... but you don't tell the world that though. Meeting at a private golf resort... where's the statemanship man.

 

[noco]

I usually get my news from the ABC. They are the least prone to hyperbole, exaggerate, lie or broadcast fake news.

Sometimes they get it wrong like anyone else but I would trust them over any other news outlet.

Trust the ABC.....you have to be joking......The ABC could not lie straight in bed......Four Corners on One Nation all false...
Off topic.

 

[SirRumpole]

Trust the ABC.....you have to be joking......The ABC could not lie straight in bed......Four Corners on One Nation all false...
Off topic.

Who paid for Pauline's plane ?

 

[noco]

Who paid for Pauline's plane ?

I don't know you tell me........The lefties will make sure it is fully investigated......They will do their best to rake up as much dirt as possible......What ever it takes.....Who paid for Dystria's bill.....I think maybe the Chinese......Who gave Bill the $40,000 he forgot to declare until the RC into union corruption found out....Big secret for 8 years.
Off Topic.

 

[Tisme]

So tell us your version of the 'real' story.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/0...ind-syrian-gas-attacks-will-russia-back-down/

Editor’s note: With the role of George Clooney’s “White Helmets” along with the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights in exploiting what we believe to be the Turkish Sarin gas attack on Syria yesterday, both VT and Press TV have been under continual cyber attack. Ian’s story yesterday had it right from the beginning and information is flowing in to VT from sources in Turkey, Syria and from Russia as well.

With the role of the White Helmets in exploiting this story, we are ready to conclude the serious possibility that this was a planned terror attack and that some US based group, most likely CIA, had a role. We are increasingly suspicious of Clooney as his wife has ties, according to our sources, with Israeli intelligence. Amal Clooney has represented Yulia Tymoshenko, Julian Assange and Mohamed Fahmy, Qatars press puppet with Al Jazeera in Egypt. Clooney is clearly being groomed.

UN Security Council video commentary begins at 15:13 in the video below:

 

[noirua]

Syrian Civil War has now become quite similar to battles fought with swords and armour many hundreds of years ago.
The English defeated the French at the battle of Waterloo because the Turks turned up in the nick of time. As they won little else matters now.
Trump has really realised the basics of war. Supply weapons and support for others to fight wars and get them to pay at vastly inflated prices. Don't praise them too much but do lambaste their enemies. Helps if they are your enemy as well. Strengthen Saudi Arabia whilst letting Iran fight for you against ISIS and weaken them financially.
In the end the US becomes an increased supplier of weapons of war whilst the Dollars roll in. So keep these wars going on and on.
Russia fights for you as well. But just to remind them who the real boss is; bomb a Syrian air base. Thank you Syria seems sadly extreme, but the US are taking increasing charge here whilst knocking down debt on protecting the so called good against the bad.

 

[Tisme]

The English defeated the French at the battle of Waterloo because the Turks turned up in the nick of time. .

Care to elaborate?

 

[luutzu]

Syrian Civil War has now become quite similar to battles fought with swords and armour many hundreds of years ago.
The English defeated the French at the battle of Waterloo because the Turks turned up in the nick of time. As they won little else matters now.
Trump has really realised the basics of war. Supply weapons and support for others to fight wars and get them to pay at vastly inflated prices. Don't praise them too much but do lambaste their enemies. Helps if they are your enemy as well. Strengthen Saudi Arabia whilst letting Iran fight for you against ISIS and weaken them financially.
In the end the US becomes an increased supplier of weapons of war whilst the Dollars roll in. So keep these wars going on and on.
Russia fights for you as well. But just to remind them who the real boss is; bomb a Syrian air base. Thank you Syria seems sadly extreme, but the US are taking increasing charge here whilst knocking down debt on protecting the so called good against the bad.

I thought it was the Prussian. Well, that's according to the movie I saw

Read headline that Trump call for "kicking out" all radical Islamist from the Middle East. Not sure if his supporters would want them kicked out... where will they go Donald? That and where will the bin Sauds go?

Yea, seems Trump is fast catching up on what the US have been doing all over the world.

 

[SirRumpole]

That and where will the bin Sauds go?

Yep, the Saudis are the leading Islamic terrorists in the world. That's where the vast majority of the 9/11 bombers came from.

 

[luutzu]

Yep, the Saudis are the leading Islamic terrorists in the world. That's where the vast majority of the 9/11 bombers came from.

Yup. But as long as they make money for people in high and mighty places, they're not too bad.

So if the Bin Laden family are smart enough, they'd invite the Trump Organisation into Saudi Arabia to help its leading construction company build and manage properties. Because, you know, Trump know how to manage properties, bigly.

 

[noirua]

Syria was far better run by Roman Governors 65BC to 394AD. Bring them back I say and rule with an iron fist.
Proconsular Governors of Roman Syria (65 BC to 27 BC)

Propraetorial Imperial Legates of Roman Syria (27 BC to 135 AD)

Proconsular Imperial Legates of Syria Palestina (135 AD to 193 AD)

Proconsular Imperial Legates of Syria Coele (193 AD to c. 295 AD)

Propraetorial Imperial Legates of Syria Phoenicia (193 AD to c. 295 AD)

 

[luutzu]

Syria was far better run by Roman Governors 65BC to 394AD. Bring them back I say and rule with an iron fist.
Proconsular Governors of Roman Syria (65 BC to 27 BC)

Propraetorial Imperial Legates of Roman Syria (27 BC to 135 AD)

Proconsular Imperial Legates of Syria Palestina (135 AD to 193 AD)

Proconsular Imperial Legates of Syria Coele (193 AD to c. 295 AD)

Propraetorial Imperial Legates of Syria Phoenicia (193 AD to c. 295 AD)

That's what the new Rome is trying to do.

Bloody Assad, gave him a few contracts torturing terrorists and he still wouldn't flip against Russia.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

just in case no-one's paying attention

-Aleppo has been overrun by anti Assad forces, namely Jihadists and their Turkish-backed allies.
- Syrian Army melted away, mainly Sunni groups from Idlib in control.
- Russians are grouping for a last ditch stand, in one suburb.
- Kurds in a tricky spot, again . Syrian National Army (SNA) as well as other Opposition Forces in Northern Syria, have called on the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and Kurdish Elements to the North of Aleppo to Immediately Evacuate their Positions, due to their ongoing Offensive against the Assad Regime’s Syrian Arab Army (SAA).
- US forces trying to stop pro Iranians pushing out of the desert.