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Sentencing in Australia is a disgrace

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Cam said:
That will happen sure as night follows day.
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Yep -- and then they get compensation ?

Paedophile Anthony Douglas Walter wins $93,000 compensation for prison assault
 
There's no doubt something wrong with the system but you will note that part of the funds get quarantined so the victims can make a damages claim. If they do, no court will deny them - the quarantined funds will end up with the victims most likely.

In any event, I wouldn't worry too much about him getting compensated. Something nasty or frightening would have happend to that guy every second day inside. The funds won't comfort him one iota.
 
Yep, I thought that too Julia. What about the victims?

He says he 'deserves' it. Unbelievable

Definitely a waste of taxpayers money Mr Burns

Well you would hope Cam, that the victims appeal. They have a year to do so.
 
There certainly is a lot of injustice in our justice system, this thread could go forever if we started listing examples. As someone who's been on a jury before I can say there certainly are flaws in the way we do things BUT as Winston Churchill said referring to Democracy- "It has been said that Democracy is the worst form of govt except for the others that have been tried".
We could say the same about our justice system but does somebody have a better sytem?
 
Out Too Soon said:
.... We could say the same about our justice system but does somebody have a better sytem?
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Maybe some changes could be made, so convicted perpetrator has some of the privileges suspended/revoked.

Maybe there should be some automatic compensation to victims, so if convicted perpetrator has/wins some dough it can be channelled to ones that were harmed.


We have to move little bit away from: unique snowflakes concept and push for responsibility for actions.
And if somebody has diminished responsibility for actions, should not have access to community, simple as that!
 
There a number of theories of punishment.

The three that I can recall are the rehabilitative theory, the deterance theory and the desert theory. The latter is effectively an expression of community outrage at what has been done and I feel we have lost our way a bit by abandoning it because it doesn't "do any good". It's quite true - its hard to truly rehabilitate and its hard to deter so really giving someone a wallop with a stiff sentence is not that likely to "do any good". But if you read the posts and everything which is written in letters to the editor on the subject, you can say that the desert theory does good because it gives us faith in a justice system which is to observation, just. That can't be quantified but it has a value.
 


This is why we have so many hardened criminals who make it life long career they just start very young and find it too easy to go this way.

Later when age allows for him to lay charges, there come out do-gooders and take childhood as an excuse and it continues.
Legal system has permanent client and unlimited access to fees and payments and we have to live with the monster and with decisions and excuses of those who should work on how to protect us.

Just disgrace!
 
Another raft of inadequate sentences for yet another violent racist gang robbery.

Man jailed over racist attack on Indian student

http://www.theage.com.au/national/man-jailed-over-racist-attack-on-indian-student-20091023-hcnr.html

Judge Jenkins said the assault was among a number of racist attacks that had rightly provoked international and local community outrage and should be condemned.

"Short of becoming prisoners in their own homes, there is little potential victims can do to prevent such attacks," she said.

Judge Jenkins sentenced Hussein to four-and-a-half years' jail with a minimum non-parole period of two years.

Hussein, dressed in a black suit and white shirt and supported in court by family, bit his nails throughout the hearing and stood with his hands clasped while he was sentenced to serve his time in an adult prison.

The court heard he had migrated to Australia from Somalia, aged about six, with his older brother and mother, who were both later diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

His younger sister had died from malaria shortly before the family left Africa where they spent time in a refugee camp in Kenya.

The court heard Hussein had experienced a difficult childhood and by his final year of school was drinking and taking drugs daily.

His defence had argued Hussein played only a minor role in the attack, had been drunk after consuming about 10 beers, and was remorseful.

But Judge Jenkins said despite Hussein not having hit any of the victims he had entered the store armed with the intention of hurting someone and had yelled encouragement to his friends.

She said it was "particularly shameful" that the Somali immigrant had vented his rage on international students and other young immigrants.
 

Yes. If he had attacked Australian students he would have got off scot free.
 
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...beater-from-jail/story-e6frf7l6-1225790322801

'Cultural differences' saves child-beater from jail

A KOREAN who beat his teenage sister-in-law for not doing homework or running fast enough has avoided jail thanks to cultural differences in discipline.

The Courier-Mail reports the man, 25, was before the District Court in Brisbane yesterday on seven assault charges arising out of his "misguided" efforts to help keep the girl, who was aged 12 to 13 years at the time, on the right track.

The court heard the man, who can't be named because it would identify a child victim of a violent crime, struck the girl with a metal vacuum cleaner pipe, a hard plastic pipe and a mop handle.

He also threatened to kill the girl by tying her to a boulder and throwing her into the Hinze dam.

Facts before the court also stated the man beat the girl with a metal vacuum cleaner pipe and a mop handle on occasions when she failed to do her homework properly.

The court heard the youngster suffered extensive bruising and she finally reported the assaults to a school teacher who informed police.

Judge David Searles described the offences as "horrendous" but because of the unique circumstances of the case, including cultural differences, he sentenced the man to a wholly suspended nine months' jail.

- I don't know who is worse in this case: the guy who beat a teenage girl, or the judge!

I wonder what would happen if a male relative of the girl found out about this and belted the $hit out of this guy. Could he claim "this is what we do to people who beat women in my culture"?
 
gav said:
Judge David Searles described the offences as "horrendous" but because of the unique circumstances of the case, including cultural differences, he sentenced the man to a wholly suspended nine months' jail.
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My culture says if someone doesnt protect a young girl from a beating he should be hung over a slow burning fire, I'm sure I'll be let off as it's just a cultural difference.
 
gav said:
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'Cultural differences' saves child-beater from jail

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- I don't know who is worse in this case: the guy who beat a teenage girl, or the judge!
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Are we getting conditioned to accept other cultural differences in a form of: honour killings, stoning, polygamy and child brides?
 
Actually that ruling is BS and should be challenged, we live by Australian law here not other countries laws or customs.
 
I agree - crack a tinny in Iran and see how far you get over there with the whole "we do it in Oz" argument. When I'm overseas, I do it their way. Others should reciprocate when they come here.
 
From the ABC, what a disgrace, Victor Chang's still dead and his family continue to be without him but the scumbag who killed him is set free.

The only way to get justice in this world is to dispense it yourself.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/27/2724896.htm
 
Almost funny, all of the sudden they realised that 18 years one day will end.

Didn't they know that 18 years ago?
 
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