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Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

  • Yes

    Votes: 77 55.8%

  • No

    Votes: 61 44.2%
  • Total voters
    138
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The sad part about the whole excercise is, only the yes side are getting any airplay, maybe there are a lot of people in high place with homosexual leanings? Who knows.
 
Fortunately most of the links are subscription only, secondly i personally don't need anyone to set my moral compass.
What people do is there business, when they start telling me what I've got to do, I really get annoyed.
 
I do.
I went through confirmation studies as a young bloke, after I completed the studies I thought, well that's a load of crap.
The only thing religion has done, is set down a few basic social rules as guidelines, not many follow them.
As with most societies and civilizations, eventually decadence sets in with boredom.
 
sptrawler said:
I do.
I went through confirmation studies as a young bloke, after I completed the studies I thought, well that's a load of crap.
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I remember praying in my early teens and came to the realisation that hope and reality are very different. Leaned on the bible words a few times in my youth but discovered many better books with helpful words along the way.

Macquack said:
"It's All About Me" neglected to post this compelling Abbott video.
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She is saying yes for her Aunt. Generally anyone that is a relative or friend is going to vote yes.
 
Macquack said:
"It's All About Me" neglected to post this compelling Abbott video.

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It may be compelling, to someone who cares what she thinks, to everyone else it is just another persons opinion.
It's a bit like religion, people who need positive re enforcement love it, others just take responsibility for their decisions good or bad.
 
sptrawler said:
The sad part about the whole excercise is, only the yes side are getting any airplay, maybe there are a lot of people in high place with homosexual leanings? Who knows.
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There's been plenty of airplay from both sides. The Australian & Herald Sun running plenty of No pieces, and Sky News. Tony Abbott's face bobbing up every other day on the issue & Andrew Bolt playing the 'conservative' card aggressively as always.

The Yes side is loud for a few reasons IMO: 1. Based on polling thus far, it has more support.
2. Entertainment and Media are progressive - relatively high proportion of homosexuals/LGBTI and thus many in this industry would be firmly in the Yes camp.
 


I suspect and wonder for all the fame it brought him, if Brokeback Mountain didn't send Heath Ledger into a spiral of depression. He was apparently very discomforted by some of the role play. It was like putting the casting couch in front of the camera IMO.
 
https://www.facebook.com/notes/coal...-prime-minister-of-australia/804835516365389/

It is common ground in the same sex marriage debate that if the postal survey produces a Yes majority, then the peoples’ verdict should be respected, and Parliament support an amendment to the Marriage Act. There is less generosity of spirit if the outcome is a No vote. Bill Shorten has said that his party will not accept such a result. Nor will the Greens.

This contrast highlights just how important it is for the Government to spell out, before the postal survey is completed, what steps it will take to protect parental rights, freedom of speech, and religious freedom in the event of same sex marriage becoming law. The case for these protections is compelling, given the experience of other countries, such as the UK, US and Canada, in the wake of those countries changing their marriage laws.

This issue must be addressed before the survey is completed; leaving it as something to be taken up only in the event of a Yes vote prevailing is the equivalent of saying that it does not matter very much. If a Yes vote is recorded there will be overwhelming pressure to “move on”, legislate as quickly as possible, and then put the issue behind Parliament. There will be scant opportunity for serious consideration of protections in the areas I have cited. Very likely, those raising such matters will be met with a chorus of put-downs, and accused of attempting to frustrate the verdict of the people.
Thus far, the Government has said that religious rights will be protected, but not how - merely stating that it will facilitate a private members’ bill. On the evidence to date, it would seem that the only protection in that bill will not go much beyond stipulations that no minister, priest, rabbi or imam will be compelled to perform a same sex marriage ceremony.

Same sex marriage will not be the end of this debate. As the safe schools debacle showed, there are education activists ready to introduce classroom material regarding gender issues unacceptable to the mainstream of Australian parents. These activists will use a change in the definition of marriage to renew their push. Parents are entitled to know what steps would be taken to ensure that this does not occur.

Despite the powerful evidence for reform represented by the Andrew Bolt case; the QUT computer room dispute and the disgraceful hounding of the late Bill Leak, the obnoxious 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act remains unscathed. This does not bode well for the capacity of the current national Parliament to enact any effective protections of the kind that will be required if our marriage laws change.

Those campaigning for a Yes vote call any reference to these issues “red herrings” or distractions. On the contrary, they are legitimate concerns. It is completely disingenuous to assert that a change of this magnitude to a fundamental social institution does not have consequences. It is precisely because parliament should reflect the will of the people that the people are entitled to know what, if anything, the Government will do on protections before the survey is completed. Otherwise people will not have been fully informed when they cast their votes.



John Howard OM AC
 
Yes Tisme, it is easy to see why Howard was the most popular Prime Minister, he says it as it is.

As the old saying goes, we shall reap what we sow, I believe there will be a lot of social consequences from the current left wing push.
 
I hope that big red cross on the bottom of the speech isn't an euphemism for a kiss but rather a mark of a factual error when he said: "parliament should reflect the will of the people".

It was his failure as PM to observe this that cost him his Govt and his seat
 
They should've planned that event a lot earlier - like - at the beginning of the campaign? lol
 
crackajack2 said:
Over the BS advertising on TV. Jerks telling me what to do. Good reason to vote no, because there is a hidden agenda.
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Let me guess, you voted twice right? LOL

< ( I must give this guy credit for sneaking down the chimmy for some nefarious editing hahaha )
 
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