Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

Tisme · 3 September 2017

SirRumpole said:
It just shows the power of the radicals these days. The Red Pill is another example of censorship by intimidation.

Another reason I'm voting NO.

Did you watch the full length and was it plausible as ubiquitously representing males?

https://dailyreview.com.au/red-pill-watched-dont/61240/

SirRumpole · 3 September 2017

I haven't seen it at all. I was just opposing the censorship of something that goes against the Bolshevik feminists. People should be able to watch and make up their own minds.

It always interests me when someone says something is "dangerous". To whom I ask myself.

Wysiwyg · 4 September 2017

By way of relief, Ward insists,

Marxism offers the hope and the strategy needed to create a world where human sexuality, gender and how we relate to our bodies can blossom in extraordinarily new and amazing ways that we can only try to imagine today.

To support this claim Ward cites sexual policies introduced in the Soviet Union after the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution. These included the use of gender neutral language and the abolition of any fixed age of consent, amongst many other anti-family measures designed to achieve a collectivist utopia.

This person (rumoured to be the love child of Bill Shorten) is vehemently opposed to the status quo.

Tisme · 4 September 2017

Wysiwyg said:
This person (rumoured to be the love child of Bill Shorten) is vehemently opposed to the status quo.

I'm thinking she's the result of a dalliance between Pyne and Birmingham

Logique · 4 September 2017

Macquack said:
We need to get this plebiscite/survey thingy over and done with. With comments like the above, it is doing my head in.
ASF is now under attack for daring to discuss SSM.

We're under attack?

Tisme · 4 September 2017

One of the evolving arguments centres around a female doctor saying she will not give up her choice to refuse succour to homosexual couples.

Already the homophiles are pushing the observance of the Hippocratic oath, which is more a sideshow play these days than an actual oath.

The section the homophiles liked to push as legitimisation of persuasion in the late 1800 hundreds was the oath, but I'm wondering if she is actually on the money:

WITH PURITY AND WITH HOLINESS I will pass my life and practice my Art. I will not cut persons laboring under the stone, but will leave this to be done by men who are practitioners of this work. Into whatever houses I enter, I will go into them for the benefit of the sick, and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief and corruption; and, further from the seduction of females or males, of freemen and slaves.

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dutchie · 4 September 2017

Petition launched against doctor in 'No' ad

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-...n-launched-against-doctor-in--no--ad.htmletup

Pretty ugly tactics by Getup

Logique · 4 September 2017

dutchie said:
Petition launched against doctor in 'No' ad
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-...n-launched-against-doctor-in--no--ad.htmletup
Pretty ugly tactics by Getup

Getting a 'Page Not Found' message

dutchie · 4 September 2017

Logique said:
Getting a 'Page Not Found' message

GetUp! pulls petition against GP Pansy Lai who appeared in anti same-sex ad

Garpal Gumnut · 4 September 2017

Pretty ugly tactics by Get Up who are our modern version of Nazis.

Don't be put off voting Yes by these fascists.

I'm still undecided, have family and mates who are gay, but the fascists seems to want to push it further.

I'll probably vote Yes when it comes to it. But it ain't firm

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Logique · 4 September 2017

Come on Garpal. The real battleground here isn't SSM. From your back seat in the Arnage, you are well aware of this. Put the champagne glass down, and listen to reason.
It's a reprise of the Marxist Left Vs the Christian Right. The LGBTIA community have allowed this to happen, to the detriment of their cause

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...i/news-story/cee2457a9189e39403752b44107acbac
...more direct intimidation:
[Dr]Pansy Lai ... has been inundated with phone and social media threats. Dr Lai told The Australian last night she had reported to police one threat that she would be shot “this week”.
Say no to bullies..

Tink · 5 September 2017

The intolerant terrorists are kicking their own goals for the NO vote.

GetUp! has pulled a petition seeking the deregistering of a Sydney doctor because she appeared in an advertisement opposing same-sex marriage declaring it “inappropriate content”. GetUp! – which facilitated the petition and described it as “powered by GetUp!” immediately distanced itself from the petition after the revelation this morning in The Australian.

The petition, which gathered more than 5000 signatures over the past five days, sought to have Sydney GP Pansy Lai face formal complaints to the Australian Medical Association and the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Authority for her deregistration and banning from practice as a doctor.

Dr Lai appeared as one of three mothers in the Marriage Coalition television advertisement promoting the No case against same-sex marriage and criticising fluid gender theory in schools. The petition accused her of a breach of ethics for supporting traditional marriage and endangering the lives of young people.

Dr Lai told The Australian she was alarmed by the petition which attempted to cut off her livelihood and was a threat to freedom of speech. This morning GetUp! said there had been dozens of complaints about the petition and was “found to be in breach” of the terms and conditions for petitions facilitated by GetUp! and the petition organisation CommunityRun.

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https://www.aussiestockforums.com/t...s-commission-a-national-disgrace.31515/page-4

tech/a · 5 September 2017

Come on Tink

You can have any opinion you like
Provided it's supporting a yes vote.

Get with the program
Tolerance is spelt one way----Yes.

I'm afraid a yes vote isn't a given
I'm sure that's the fear of any form of mass vote.

Tisme · 5 September 2017

Tink said:
The intolerant terrorists are kicking their own goals for the NO vote.

GetUp! has pulled a petition seeking the deregistering of a Sydney doctor because she appeared in an advertisement opposing same-sex marriage declaring it “inappropriate content”. GetUp! – which facilitated the petition and described it as “powered by GetUp!” immediately distanced itself from the petition after the revelation this morning in The Australian.

The petition, which gathered more than 5000 signatures over the past five days, sought to have Sydney GP Pansy Lai face formal complaints to the Australian Medical Association and the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Authority for her deregistration and banning from practice as a doctor.

Dr Lai appeared as one of three mothers in the Marriage Coalition television advertisement promoting the No case against same-sex marriage and criticising fluid gender theory in schools. The petition accused her of a breach of ethics for supporting traditional marriage and endangering the lives of young people.

Dr Lai told The Australian she was alarmed by the petition which attempted to cut off her livelihood and was a threat to freedom of speech. This morning GetUp! said there had been dozens of complaints about the petition and was “found to be in breach” of the terms and conditions for petitions facilitated by GetUp! and the petition organisation CommunityRun.

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https://www.aussiestockforums.com/t...s-commission-a-national-disgrace.31515/page-4

I subscribe to Getup, just like I subscribe to the LNP, the ALP, Unions, et al newsletters and emails. It's very interesting how all of them use the same imperatives to make our nation strong and free.

But there's a kind of absurdity about Getup. I'm fairly convinced it is run by indignant middle aged women and the odd insipid male who see themselves as some kind of legacy bearers of the 1960's protest movement ... maintaining the rage against the machine as it were.

I think their anthem should be that song where the Scottish girl garbled (deliberately) two eras and came up with punk rockers with flowers in their hair. Post baby boomers everywhere swallowed it as an actual lifestyle past, LOL

Tink · 5 September 2017

From a radio interview.

Tisme · 5 September 2017

What we already worked out, but Andrew's a little slow:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/a...g/news-story/0ce9b5fee6da9e1cf71eb453b9664c1e

Wysiwyg · 5 September 2017

Tink's video leads onto this woman saying what I have been trying to say since joining this debate. Sally Rugg (SSM activist) eat some of this.

PZ99 · 5 September 2017

Interesting polling result at this point: 62% YES - 38% NO. Not that far from the latest Essential Research poll which is 59% to 31% in favour of changing the law.
http://www.essentialvision.com.au/same-sex-marriage-25

Wysiwyg · 6 September 2017

It will get passed because people are generally D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. types. Worked with and covered the idiots all my life. Money is THE most important thing. Morals, consideration, do the right thing - forget it.

Tisme · 6 September 2017

Wysiwyg said:
It will get passed because people are generally D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. types. Worked with and covered the idiots all my life. Money is THE most important thing. Morals, consideration, do the right thing - forget it.

It won't go away. It will come around and around and around until it gets it own way. That's what every second person is saying and so they of the mind to just accept it and move onto "more important" things which always seem elusive, but important none the same.

Same sex marriage - Yes or No?