Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

[Wysiwyg]

The Jenner case in America is another example of the coming out of alternate sexuality in present times. He wanted to live "like" a female and made the transition in front of the world via American media. Everyone has a right to be who they want as long as their behaviour doesn't infringe on other people.

 

[Triathlete]

I was a bit stumped why this poll with such a large sample size seemed to have the opposite results to all other polling. Then I found out that this was circulated by a few religious groups



Maybe it doesn't explain the result and the silent majority have spoken but going by this thread the silent majority seem to be yes voters.

It is going to be interesting to see the outcome, I think they should have just added another form to fill out on this and many other issues and have a real vote at the next election in my view.......

 

[Tink]

Hodgie, you are entitled to your view, as I am mine.

I have given my reasons why Marriage should not be changed -- FAMILY.
A mother and a father matter.
The state has no business in same sex marriage, it goes against the children, the most vulnerable.

What are your reasons?
Why should the marriage act be changed to genderless?

The Rage Against God seems to be the new atheists pastime.
It is unfortunate that you don't know about our own history, but then the Communists have made sure to send the people to re education camps.
The Stalinists at work.

Vote NO.
Stand up for the FAMILY.

As I said, Civil Unions have been established for same sex, transgender etc.

 

[Tisme]

Thankyou for your attempts at employing diplomacy in your reply.

I could make an effort to respond in kind, but as you are likely already aware, I do at times have a tendency to be unapologetically bold (and at times brutal) in the expression of my personal views.

Too many times, I have been witness to people (myself included), fantasising about being possessed of distinctions which somehow render chosen opinions superior to those of their opponents. When such people become overly engrossed in such fantasies of superiority, behaviour akin to that of a religious zealot typically ensues.

I am of the opinion that the "holier than thou" religion, is one of the oldest of all mankind's religions. And yet somehow, many of its adherents fail to recognise their religious zeal when decrying their religious opponents.

Are you two talking in Dickensian Verbosity dialect or something, wot wot?

 

[Logique]

The plebiscite may not see the light of day in any case. The High Court on 5 & 6 Sept will hear a challenge on constitutionality.

 

[SirRumpole]

The plebiscite may not see the light of day in any case. The High Court on 5 & 6 Sept will hear a challenge on constitutionality.

The "postal survey" is completely legal AND THE HIGH COURT WILL SO RULE !!!

 

[Logique]

Speaking of court rulings, confirming that 'marriage equality' is just a slogan..

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...out-marriage-and-equality/8856552?pfmredir=sm - 8 Sept 2017
...Both the United Nations Human Rights Committee and the European Court of Human Rights have held that there is no inequality where a state retains the traditional definition of marriage...

 

[dutchie]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4844502/Father-s-Day-ad-pulled-ahead-gay-marriage-vote.html

Absolute joke

 

[PZ99]

Others' day

 

[Wysiwyg]

Obviously a gay marriage supporter running Unfree TV Australia. These d'heads are starting to impact the majority of heterosexuals.

 

[Wysiwyg]

What is offensive are the shots of female with male and birthing the child. This no longer acceptable and MM, FF, MMF, FFM, MI, MT, FI, FT, MQ, FQ (apologies if any missed here) relationships must be represented.

 

[cynic]

Are you two talking in Dickensian Verbosity dialect or something, wot wot?

What the Dickens are you on about!

Now, now, credit where credit is due!!

Dickens was writing in cynical dialect - in effect he plagiarised me!!!

Now don't you dare try to disagree, or, in any way, shape, or form, argue otherwise, even if your argument is soundly based upon the fact of Dickens having lived and died prior to my birth, or I will justly and righteously accuse you of the heinous crime of cyniphobia!!!!

The cyniphobes of the world ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for oppressing the cynics' rights to be just as precious as any other misunderstood minority faction currently residing inside the scope of the human imagination!!!!!

 

[pixel]

What the Dickens are you on about!

Now, now, credit where credit is due!!

Dickens was writing in cynical dialect - in effect he plagiarised me!!!

Now don't you dare try to disagree, or, in any way, shape, or form, argue otherwise, even if your argument is soundly based upon the fact of Dickens having lived and died prior to my birth, or I will justly and righteously accuse you of the heinous crime of cyniphobia!!!!

The cyniphobes of the world ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for oppressing the cynics' rights to be just as precious as any other misunderstood minority faction currently residing inside the scope of the human imagination!!!!!

Now you're getting true to name, cynic: Self-righteously - or make that "doggedly" - persisting that everybody not completely agreeing with you, must needs be cynophobic. Wrong term, mate A cynophobe, in the true meaning of the word, is simply not fond of dogs. That's right: Pooches, mutts, curs are the objects of a cynophobe's antipathy. (And this old tomcat can really sympathise with that attitude )
I assume you know the origin of the word cynic: κύων, Latinised to cyon, is Greek for dog. κυνικός is the adjectival form: dog-like or doggy-style.
Just like a dog lifts his leg and marks everything he comes across, especially items that others hold dear and holy, a cynic does the equivalent, criticising and spraying ideas put forward by others.

 

[Bruliatrader]

I am strongly opposed to bullying in all forms and consider that discrimination on the basis of sexuality only encourages that sort of behaviour from some.

So it's a definite YES from me.

As others have noted this issue is about adults not children.

Your supposedly against bullying? What about bullying of people who are against same sex marriages? Does that count or is that different bullying that is allowed? I thought this was an Aussie Stock Forum? Why aren't you discussing Aussie stocks?

 

[Bruliatrader]

Yes

While I don't understand why some people are attracted to the same sex, it seems that their behaviour is not choice, but hard wired. I have met plenty in tourism and they are as normal as you and I. They are statistically a minority and I don't see why the majority should feel they have the solemn right to make decisions for other folk they do not know. Live and let live.

Ignorance is bliss, but only for the ignorant.

Ignorance is bliss? Aren't you ignorant of the person who has an apposite view to yours? I love people who call other people ignorant because they have a different view to them. You usually find they are the most ignorant. We need to try to understand all points of view, but at the end of the day people are entitled to their point of view.

 

[Logique]

I'm staggered that Free TV Australia refused to screen this advert. That it's by Dads 4 Kids is clearly stated, along with website address at the end.

What is this, if not censorship of mainstream values by a militant minority? Vote 'Yes' at your peril.

Being sarcastic, of course the advert commits two PC 'sins'

• shows happy nuclear families (a Mum and a Dad)
• shows white males in a good light

 

[SirRumpole]

I'm staggered that Free TV Australia refused to screen this advert. That it's by Dads 4 Kids is clearly stated, along with website address at the end.

What is this, if not censorship of mainstream values by a militant minority? Vote 'Yes' at your peril.

Being sarcastic, of course the advert commits two PC 'sins'

• shows happy nuclear families (a Mum and a Dad)
• shows white males in a good light

It just shows the power of the radicals these days. The Red Pill is another example of censorship by intimidation.

Another reason I'm voting NO.

 

[Macquack]

Your supposedly against bullying? What about bullying of people who are against same sex marriages? Does that count or is that different bullying that is allowed? I thought this was an Aussie Stock Forum? Why aren't you discussing Aussie stocks?

We need to get this plebiscite/survey thingy over and done with. With comments like the above, it is doing my head in.

ASF is now under attack for daring to discuss SSM.

 

[Tisme]

What the Dickens are you on about!

Now, now, credit where credit is due!!

Dickens was writing in cynical dialect - in effect he plagiarised me!!!

Now don't you dare try to disagree, or, in any way, shape, or form, argue otherwise, even if your argument is soundly based upon the fact of Dickens having lived and died prior to my birth, or I will justly and righteously accuse you of the heinous crime of cyniphobia!!!!

The cyniphobes of the world ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for oppressing the cynics' rights to be just as precious as any other misunderstood minority faction currently residing inside the scope of the human imagination!!!!!

I resemble those remarks!!!

 

[Tisme]

I'm staggered that Free TV Australia refused to screen this advert. That it's by Dads 4 Kids is clearly stated, along with website address at the end.

What is this, if not censorship of mainstream values by a militant minority? Vote 'Yes' at your peril.

Being sarcastic, of course the advert commits two PC 'sins'

• shows happy nuclear families (a Mum and a Dad)
• shows white males in a good light

Yes a bit over the top portraying fathers as having any worth.