Value Collector
Have courage, and be kind.
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VC has a rage against God, and would like to see all these gone for his own religion.
We've already seen a world without religion. The ancients had unusual sexual relationships, nothing was off the table, and society was highly dysfunctional (lots of social problems).
Indeed, a wonderful world to live in... It was a cold world as well – the disabled were spat on.
When religion came people started helping the poor. That goes along with believing in a deity.
And what entitles you to cast judgment upon the rational capacity of others?Its unfortunate that you are too far gone by your upbringing to think objectively when it comes to certain topics. I don't mean that disrespectfully I honestly think you are blinded to see reason.
watch the introduction to this video and see how children and babies are being treated at the hands of christians in africa. where if you are born with a disability you can be accused of being a witch.
Hey I'm just stating how it is, I'm not judging. Like you insist that homosexuals are "born that way" and therefore they are "normal" and "just like us" (which is discrimination right there BTW), I'm just explaining that we heterosexuals think the way we do because we are born that way, it's normal, it's just like us (well for alpha males it is). The beige who walk amongst us choose to look away and detach themselves insipidly from the discomfort, other social vandals spruik equal for all oranges and apples (for all oranges are equal to apples apparently) and then there are those with clarity, purpose and God on their side .....
It's just plain common sense and if you want to wrap it up in some scientific mumbo jumbo it's heteronormativity.... an hierarchy of social needs based procreation of the (healthy) species... it's normal, we are born that way, .......
Not anymore, But it is happening, but I don't think isis is representative of islam either.Do you think that view is representative of the wider Christian community ?
Or ashamed of themselves for entertaining and developing an itch they shouldn't scratch. Or they were being groomed into the lifestyle necessarily kept out of public view. The local buggery priest opened a door they feel they can't go back through for shame. etc
There is an innate reaction by the procreators of the human tribe to consider the queer and wierd as inferior and repugnant. You see it where ever men meet, without the restrictions of social graces and women present.
It's that inbuilt consideration of an inferior construct, that is the reason for the empathy drive to have homosexuals accepted into the group by dogooders. It's like giving native americans wampum; at the end of the day it has no real value and the attitude toward the takers still remains the same....... pity favours, not merit based.
You are a classic homophobe.
All your comments reek of smugness and superiority.
Thankyou for your attempts at employing diplomacy in your reply.Cynic, the difference is i am willing to change my view based on information. I don't have a predisposition on a topic based on some scripture. Im perfectly willing to accept I could be wrong based on new information. When you base your opinions and your view of morality on old scripture there is no change and you cannot adapt and progress.
Btw im sorry I shouldn't have made it personal that is my error I apologise.
Anyone interested in discussing the topic of Legalising Same Sex marriages ? How about some pertinent arguments from a top Catholic theologian ?
http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...beral-mps-reignite-push-for-marriage-equality
This poll is 65% to 35% in favour of the NO vote
"Dear my friends, please forward this in private message to many of your Christian and Muslim friends to vote NO to the same sex marriage. NOW IT IS THE TIME TO PRAY & ACT PRECIOUS PEOPLE OF GOD: I invite all of you to share the below link to all of your friends and invite as many to vote as possible. The online poll is carried out by Channel 9. A real chance for us to speak up. Please vote 'NO' and help to forward. http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...beral-mps-reignite-push-for-marriage-equality Yes is currently about 80%. Please vote. Thanks, John Gabriel."
This is supposed to be thread discussing the arguments for/against SSM. I'm surprised that one has yet responded to the arguments posed by Father Frank Brennan in terms of The Common Good and the distinction between a religious view of the Holy Sacrament of Marriage amd a civil view of a social contract.
I thought his comments of the idea that marriage for gay people with children in fact strengthens the social contact and committment of partners and should be encouraged.
The reason is that the opinion of a single virtue signalling is irrelevant, basilio.This is supposed to be thread discussing the arguments for/against SSM. I'm surprised that one has yet responded to the arguments posed by Father Frank Brennan in terms of The Common Good and the distinction between a religious view of the Holy Sacrament of Marriage amd a civil view of a social contract.
I thought his comments of the idea that marriage for gay people with children in fact strengthens the social contact and committment of partners and should be encouraged.
Which accents are you talking about, as far as I know they all had religion.
You know people with disabilities were often thought to be curse by god, and were often treated badly due to the many different superstitious religions.
Thats just cherry picking, you are leaving out all the killings and religious wars etc
The romans etc, pre Christianity times. Crueler world to live in . Helping needy people wasn't a value as in today's society. With Christianity also came a big arm to help the poor/afflicted. Even now you have lots of charities. The gov for a good while has been happy to have religious (catholic) hospitals around. Whatever free health one can get is always going to be a good thing. Buy yeah, looks like a bunch in authority (catholic church) covered stuff up, inflicting lots of harm. Regards wars, you probably already know that you get evil people everywhere, but what does the christian religion teach? Stuff like “love your enemies, hate nobody (even your parents' killers)”. Seems harmless to me... Regards the brutality of the old testament, that was all nullified in the new testament so we're not cherry picking e.g. the stoners (and everybody really) were now given a new order to forgive etc. Although the other 2 religions are still guided by the principles of the old testament, but we're talking about leaving things in Australia the way they have been (male and female , non polygamous ie christian ) or used to be anyway .
Just to add , in debating it's important to agree with good answers . The pros do it. And audiences negate points from debaters when they don't see that . Likewise when they use inferences such as “person A has this view against and they're part of it, therefore it's wrong etc" . This is not good debating.
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