Same sex marriage - Yes or No?

[Tisme]

Yes of course, but that is an entirely different point.

Families often cover for pedos too, whether through denial or embarrassment... or deviance, that happens too

Should be have a plebiscite? I know if I insist on voting no, there will be two who vote yes just to be contrary so it should get up, just based on ratios.

 

[wayneL]

Nope, I said sexual repression was responsible for a lot of it, I didn't say all paedophilia was due to sexual repression neither did I say the church was the sole source of sexual repression.

eg, If I say smoking causes lung cancer, I am not claiming all lung cancer comes from smoking, or that all cancers are in the lungs.

Poor analogy.

Catholic priests are so underepresented in the sample, they are hardly when statistically relevant, even if eminently newsworthy.

 

[Value Collector]

Catholic priests are so underepresented in the sample, they are hardly when statistically relevant, even if eminently newsworthy.

Firstly I didn't mention catholic priests, I mentioned churches in general.

but what is your point? do you not think sexual repression can cause paedophilia?

Because that was my only relevant point in using the church as an example.

As I stated there are many examples of situations where the formation of healthy sexual relationships is suppressed and men act out sexual tendencies they wouldn't normally have, eg Jails, Churches, Boarding schools, Navy ships to just name a few.

I think if the sexually frustrated inmates of prisons can sexually assault other men, I don't think some of them would avoid sexually assaulting little girls or boys if they had access, priests for example just have more access to the easier victims.

 

[wayneL]

Hair splitting

Dont dodge the point VC

 

[Value Collector]

Dont dodge the point VC

I am not sure you understood my original point, You seem to think my point was about attacking the church or priests.

My original statement was - "I think all the different versions of Mardi Gras and carnival are just about having fun, celebrating sexuality, I would much rather that than a culture that celebrates sexual repression."

I then gave an example of where sexual repression creates negative outcomes.

Thats my point - sexual repression is bad.

 

[SirRumpole]

My original statement was - "I think all the different versions of Mardi Gras and carnival are just about having fun, celebrating sexuality, I would much rather that than a culture that celebrates sexual repression."

Are you really saying that a normal relationship between two people is sexual repression ?

If not, why would a happy couple either hetero or gay want to prance around on the street making fools of themselves ?

Do you feel so repressed that you have the need to go on the street and scream your sexuality ?

Which goes back to my point that festivals like the Mardi Gras are demonstrations of immaturity and insecurity.

 

[Value Collector]

Are you really saying that a normal relationship between two people is sexual repression ?

OMG, are you even reading my posts, where have I said that?

If not, why would a happy couple either hetero or gay want to prance around on the street making fools of themselves ?

A lot of them are probably single, but who cares why they want to do it, it might just be fun.

 

[SirRumpole]

OMG, are you even reading my posts, where have I said that?

That's your implication. Read my whole post for the logic.

 

[Value Collector]

That's your implication. Read my whole post for the logic.

Does it matter why they want to do it? it might just be fun.

 

[Tisme]

Are you really saying that a normal relationship between two people is sexual repression ?

If not, why would a happy couple either hetero or gay want to prance around on the street making fools of themselves ?

Do you feel so repressed that you have the need to go on the street and scream your sexuality ?

Which goes back to my point that festivals like the Mardi Gras are demonstrations of immaturity and insecurity.

The Gay Mardis Gras was and is a political statement aimed at social change.

I'm fairly certain the e.g. New Orleans and Mardi Gras' are Catholic based on celebratory observances such as Shrove Tuesday, before the fasting of Lent.

Big difference between engaging in Christian and Anti Christian rituals.

 

[SirRumpole]

The Gay Mardis Gras was and is a political statement aimed at social change.

So they have got their social change, now they can stop the nonsense.

 

[Value Collector]

So they have got their social change, now they can stop the nonsense.

Who are you talking about? the people from the videos I uploaded? they were heterosexual.

But, anyway, why would anyone want to stop a celebration they enjoy?

 

[SirRumpole]

Who are you talking about? the people from the videos I uploaded? they were heterosexual.

But, anyway, why would anyone want to stop a celebration they enjoy?

The rest of us were talking about the Gay Mardi Gras.

Personally I'm sick of the fawning media giving blanket coverage to a few mentally juvenile exhibitionists who think they soooo great darling because they happen to be in a one or two percent minority.

 

[Value Collector]

Personally I'm sick of the fawning media giving blanket coverage to a few mentally juvenile exhibitionists who think they soooo great darling because they happen to be in a one or two percent minority.

dude, its once a year just change the channel or flip the page, personally I don't like most sports, but I don't complain about media coverage.

 

[Value Collector]

I'm fairly certain the e.g. New Orleans and Mardi Gras' are Catholic based on celebratory observances such as Shrove Tuesday, before the fasting of Lent.
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Thats like trying to say Christmas is about Jesus, it may have been true before, but its not about that anymore, and now it is more fun.

 

[Tisme]

Thats like trying to say Christmas is about Jesus, it may have been true before, but its not about that anymore, and now it is more fun.

So you think because we have become more secular, the sectarian gay lobby should be exempt from that, but churches shouldn't?

 

[Tisme]

 

[Value Collector]

So you think because we have become more secular, the sectarian gay lobby should be exempt from that, but churches shouldn't?

I have no idea what you mean by that

 

[Tisme]

I have no idea what you mean by that

I find that hard to believe.

 

[Tink]

in my view,

there is misinformation out there, but I am reminding them of their/our history.