Resisting Climate Hysteria

[rederob]

And you continue to never read what is quoted,
The article about Queensland is the forecast for the coming season.
You put up a map purporting to show what happened.
Thats pretty amazing seeing as we have not yet entered the cyclone season.
I don't know where you got the map from, but it gots nothing to with the forecasts for the 2021 season.
You screwed up Rob, and no amount of your bullsh!t will escape that.
Mick

I definitely used the wrong link in my reply - my bad - but it was based on what BOM forecast and what actually happened in 2020-21 as per what you posted when you said "see New Daily".
What BOM said was on the money for the previous TC season, and this is mapped for all to see.
You have not actually posted any TC forecasts for the 2021-22 TC season as all BOM said today was:

"The BOM said an average to slightly-above-average number of tropical cyclones are expected to form in the Australian region this season."​

On the other hand I have also shown you are unaware of the forecast made for the coming TC season, despite you naming the model being used.
I have no idea what you think your posts have achieved as they are off topic and seem to contradict what you claim.

 

[mullokintyre]

I definitely used the wrong link in my reply - my bad - but it was based on what BOM forecast and what actually happened in 2020-21 as per what you posted when you said "see New Daily".
What BOM said was on the money for the previous TC season, and this is mapped for all to see.
You have not actually posted any TC forecasts for the 2021-22 TC season as all BOM said today was:

"The BOM said an average to slightly-above-average number of tropical cyclones are expected to form in the Australian region this season."​

On the other hand I have also shown you are unaware of the forecast made for the coming TC season, despite you naming the model being used.
I have no idea what you think your posts have achieved as they are off topic and seem to contradict what you claim.

yea right.

 

[Joules MM1]

onya, Austraya ......or South Australia .....the rest of us shall catch up

"...if it was an independent country South Australia would now rank second behind
Denmark in the take-up of VRE (variable renewable energy) "

 

[wayneL]

As the "elite" fly around in private jets and choppers, to and fro gabfests, massive mansions and enormous yachts...

 

[wayneL]

Exempli Gratia:

 

[orr]

I wonder what would happen if I pulled my head out from between my cheeks and took the the time to google 'microsoft net zero'???

Ohh look I did ... And what did I find out.....
If only Australia had half the ambition in twice the time...

Look what can happen when you spend less time with your head up you arse...

 

[wayneL]

I wonder what would happen if I pulled my head out from between my cheeks and took the the time to google 'microsoft net zero'???

Ohh look I did ... And what did I find out.....
If only Australia had half the ambition in twice the time...

Look what can happen when you spend less time with your head up you arse...

Happy to see the mathematics, genius.

 

[macca]

I wonder what would happen if I pulled my head out from between my cheeks and took the the time to google 'microsoft net zero'???

Ohh look I did ... And what did I find out.....
If only Australia had half the ambition in twice the time...

Look what can happen when you spend less time with your head up you arse...

And if he was fair dinkum he could actually be better couldn't he, he does have the right to ego trip, he just doesn't need 4 planes to do it in

 

[wayneL]

And if he was fair dinkum he could actually be better couldn't he, he does have the right to ego trip, he just doesn't need 4 planes to do it in

Mate this is the most astonishing thing to me, how these leftist clowns justify the lifestyles of Gates, Bezos, Charles, and a litany of other climate preachers with carbon footprints measuring in the thousands of tons.

....and then accuse those of us who are doing everything to minimise their power bill and trim down their comparatively extremely modest lifestyle as having their head up their @ss.... not realising how absolutely asinine they are.

 

[sptrawler]

I wonder what would happen if I pulled my head out from between my cheeks and took the the time to google 'microsoft net zero'???

Ohh look I did ... And what did I find out.....
If only Australia had half the ambition in twice the time...

Look what can happen when you spend less time with your head up you arse...

How do you find the fresh air?

 

[basilio]

Well thanks for the tip Orr.
Impressive piece of planning and accountability.
Certainly worth respect and recognition.

Microsoft will be carbon negative by 2030​

Jan 16, 2020 | Brad Smith - President & Vice Chair

Microsoft President Brad Smith, Chief Financial Officer Amy Hood and CEO Satya Nadella preparing to announce Microsoft’s plan to be carbon negative by 2030. (Jan. 15, 2020/Photo by Brian Smale)
The scientific consensus is clear. The world confronts an urgent carbon problem. The carbon in our atmosphere has created a blanket of gas that traps heat and is changing the world’s climate. Already, the planet’s temperature has risen by 1 degree centigrade. If we don’t curb emissions, and temperatures continue to climb, science tells us that the results will be catastrophic.

As the scientific community has concluded, human activity has released more than 2 trillion metric tons of greenhouse gases into the Earth’s atmosphere since the start of the First Industrial Revolution in the mid-1700s. Over three-quarters of this is carbon dioxide, with most of this carbon emitted since the mid-1950s. This is more carbon than nature can re-absorb, and every year humanity pumps more than 50 billion metric tons of additional greenhouse gases into the air. This isn’t a problem that lasts a few years or even a decade. Once excess carbon enters the atmosphere it can take thousands of years to dissipate.

The world’s climate experts agree that the world must take urgent action to bring down emissions. Ultimately, we must reach “net zero” emissions, meaning that humanity must remove as much carbon as it emits each year. This will take aggressive approaches, new technology that doesn’t exist today, and innovative public policy. It is an ambitious – even audacious – goal, but science tells us that it’s a goal of fundamental importance to every person alive today and for every generation to follow.

Microsoft: Carbon negative by 2030​

While the world will need to reach net zero, those of us who can afford to move faster and go further should do so. That’s why today we are announcing an ambitious goal and a new plan to reduce and ultimately remove Microsoft’s carbon footprint.
By 2030 Microsoft will be carbon negative, and by 2050 Microsoft will remove from the environment all the carbon the company has emitted either directly or by electrical consumption since it was founded in 1975.

We recognize that progress requires not just a bold goal but a detailed plan. As described below, we are launching today an aggressive program to cut our carbon emissions by more than half by 2030, both for our direct emissions and for our entire supply and value chain. We will fund this in part by expanding our internal carbon fee, in place since 2012 and increased last year, to start charging not only our direct emissions, but those from our supply and value chains.

We are also launching an initiative to use Microsoft technology to help our suppliers and customers around the world reduce their own carbon footprints and a new $1 billion climate innovation fund to accelerate the global development of carbon reduction, capture, and removal technologies. Beginning next year, we will also make carbon reduction an explicit aspect of our procurement processes for our supply chain. Our progress on all of these fronts will be published in a new annual Environmental Sustainability Report that will detail our carbon impact and reduction journey. And lastly, all this work will be supported by our voice and advocacy supporting public policy that will accelerate carbon reduction and removal opportunities.

Taking a principled approach​

Microsoft will be carbon negative by 2030 - The Official Microsoft Blog

The scientific consensus is clear. The world confronts an urgent carbon problem. The carbon in our atmosphere has created a blanket of gas that traps heat and is changing the world’s climate. Already, the planet’s temperature has risen by 1 degree centigrade. If we don’t curb emissions, and...

blogs.microsoft.com

 

[sptrawler]

Well thanks for the tip Orr.
Impressive piece of planning and accountability.
Certainly worth respect and recognition.

Microsoft will be carbon negative by 2030​

Jan 16, 2020 | Brad Smith - President & Vice Chair


View attachment 132192Microsoft President Brad Smith, Chief Financial Officer Amy Hood and CEO Satya Nadella preparing to announce Microsoft’s plan to be carbon negative by 2030. (Jan. 15, 2020/Photo by Brian Smale)
The scientific consensus is clear. The world confronts an urgent carbon problem. The carbon in our atmosphere has created a blanket of gas that traps heat and is changing the world’s climate. Already, the planet’s temperature has risen by 1 degree centigrade. If we don’t curb emissions, and temperatures continue to climb, science tells us that the results will be catastrophic.

As the scientific community has concluded, human activity has released more than 2 trillion metric tons of greenhouse gases into the Earth’s atmosphere since the start of the First Industrial Revolution in the mid-1700s. Over three-quarters of this is carbon dioxide, with most of this carbon emitted since the mid-1950s. This is more carbon than nature can re-absorb, and every year humanity pumps more than 50 billion metric tons of additional greenhouse gases into the air. This isn’t a problem that lasts a few years or even a decade. Once excess carbon enters the atmosphere it can take thousands of years to dissipate.

The world’s climate experts agree that the world must take urgent action to bring down emissions. Ultimately, we must reach “net zero” emissions, meaning that humanity must remove as much carbon as it emits each year. This will take aggressive approaches, new technology that doesn’t exist today, and innovative public policy. It is an ambitious – even audacious – goal, but science tells us that it’s a goal of fundamental importance to every person alive today and for every generation to follow.

Microsoft: Carbon negative by 2030​

While the world will need to reach net zero, those of us who can afford to move faster and go further should do so. That’s why today we are announcing an ambitious goal and a new plan to reduce and ultimately remove Microsoft’s carbon footprint.
By 2030 Microsoft will be carbon negative, and by 2050 Microsoft will remove from the environment all the carbon the company has emitted either directly or by electrical consumption since it was founded in 1975.

We recognize that progress requires not just a bold goal but a detailed plan. As described below, we are launching today an aggressive program to cut our carbon emissions by more than half by 2030, both for our direct emissions and for our entire supply and value chain. We will fund this in part by expanding our internal carbon fee, in place since 2012 and increased last year, to start charging not only our direct emissions, but those from our supply and value chains.
View attachment 132193We are also launching an initiative to use Microsoft technology to help our suppliers and customers around the world reduce their own carbon footprints and a new $1 billion climate innovation fund to accelerate the global development of carbon reduction, capture, and removal technologies. Beginning next year, we will also make carbon reduction an explicit aspect of our procurement processes for our supply chain. Our progress on all of these fronts will be published in a new annual Environmental Sustainability Report that will detail our carbon impact and reduction journey. And lastly, all this work will be supported by our voice and advocacy supporting public policy that will accelerate carbon reduction and removal opportunities.

Taking a principled approach​

Microsoft will be carbon negative by 2030 - The Official Microsoft Blog

The scientific consensus is clear. The world confronts an urgent carbon problem. The carbon in our atmosphere has created a blanket of gas that traps heat and is changing the world’s climate. Already, the planet’s temperature has risen by 1 degree centigrade. If we don’t curb emissions, and...

blogs.microsoft.com

IMO, it should be read in conjunction with this article, which highlights that a lot of these companies who are going to claim carbon zero or carbon negative are not factoring in the end use of their product.

Big business 'sniffs' the green dollar at COP26

Climate change conferences were once the domain of scientists and bureaucrats. Now, they are increasingly attended by big business delegations eyeing off the "green dollar".

www.abc.net.au

The rise of 'greenwashing'​

Increasingly, carbon-intensive businesses like Ampol — who pledge to deliver net zero on emissions by 2040 — will come under the microscope.

Critically, Ampol's plan will not deal with "scope 3" emissions — the emissions from customers burning their fuels — according to Richie Merzian.

"Companies will try and greenwash their way into only offsetting the emissions from scope 1 and 2, their domestic emissions," Mr Merzian told 7.30.

"And if you're a major fossil fuel producer, the majority of your emissions are when your goods are burnt.

"We're seeing a rise of greenwashing. We're seeing more junk credits being put on the market and purchased up by big polluters. We're seeing a lot more marketing, and not a lot of action. And that's the real risk."

In Australia, one in five carbon credits generated here could very well be hot air, according to new research by the Australian Conservation Foundation.

However, COP26 will see new commitments from some of the industries hardest to abate.

 

[basilio]

IMO, it should be read in conjunction with this article, which highlights that a lot of these companies who are going to claim carbon zero or carbon negative are not factoring in the end use of their product.

Quite true and if you read the rest of the piece you will find that Microsoft identifies Scope 2 and scope 3 emissions as part of their Zero emissions responsibility. They also recognise they have to directly reduce emissions and directly tackle the emissions they have already produced.

No loopholes. They might or might not achieve this goal but they are not trying to do a ScoMo.

 

[orr]

Impressive piece of planning and accountability.

This is where the rubber hits the road.. Looking toward the next decade with solar and wind based Electricity, even now, being the cheapest form of energy generation in human history (see IEA's data) and only going lower; And at every turn, the serious finance World over subscribing every oppertunaty that comes their way in this regard ...
To expect one of the top most valuable company's traded W/W'd not to be looking to ths form of energy? as the future??? ....

Some, tragically, presumably saw their cuisinière rods as eatible. and their Shibboleths as duarable...

 

[mullokintyre]

So much posturing on the part of everyone connected to Climate change.
The 400 odd jets that burst in to Glasgow , the 85 car motorcade of president Biden, the army of Chauffeur driven cars clogging up the streets of Glasgow, the fact that China and India want the rest of the world to stump up 1 trillion so that they and the other developing world can get loans to tackle climate change.
They might have a little mote success if they were not such a bunch of hypocrites,
MICK

 

[rederob]

So much posturing on the part of everyone connected to Climate change.
The 400 odd jets that burst in to Glasgow , the 85 car motorcade of president Biden, the army of Chauffeur driven cars clogging up the streets of Glasgow, the fact that China and India want the rest of the world to stump up 1 trillion so that they and the other developing world can get loans to tackle climate change.
They might have a little mote success if they were not such a bunch of hypocrites,
MICK

The per capita carbon footprint of Australians is amongst the highest in the world.
It's hypocrites like you that want to blame the countries who have been least responsible for getting CO2 levels to where they are today, and at the same time enjoy a 21st century lifestyle that billions of others can only aspire to.
One day you might make sense.

 

[basilio]

So much posturing on the part of everyone connected to Climate change.
The 400 odd jets that burst in to Glasgow , the 85 car motorcade of president Biden, the army of Chauffeur driven cars clogging up the streets of Glasgow, the fact that China and India want the rest of the world to stump up 1 trillion so that they and the other developing world can get loans to tackle climate change.
They might have a little mote success if they were not such a bunch of hypocrites,
MICK

Ha Ha.. Argument 101 in the well thumbed Climate deniers handbook of disinformation..

I wonder which particular news source you have quoted that decided to focus on jets, cars and associated baggage that accompanies our leaders flying to such conferences ? Fox perhaps, Breibart ? Zero Hedge ? Andrew Bolt ? Who cares.

Did they or you have any observation on the current effect of human caused CC and where we will be if we don't get on top of it ?

 

[mullokintyre]

Sticking pejorative labels on people is a poor way prosecute an argument.
What part of what i said allows you to call me a climate deniers?
At no stage have I denied climate change.
At no stage have I denied the effects human induced climate change.
Everything I said was about the hypocrisy of the elites preaching about reducing carbon emissions while they blithely put out more carbon in a day than the average person puts out in a year.
Inconvenient or as embarrassing as it may be, everything I posted has been well documented.
Video footage of the motorcade, ADSB flight path data of the planes.
The fact that your favourite media source does not report it does not invalidate it.
Mick

 

[basilio]

Sticking pejorative labels on people is a poor way prosecute an argument.
What part of what i said allows you to call me a climate deniers?
At no stage have I denied climate change.
At no stage have I denied the effects human induced climate change.
Everything I said was about the hypocrisy of the elites preaching about reducing carbon emissions while they blithely put out more carbon in a day than the average person puts out in a year.
Inconvenient or as embarrassing as it may be, everything I posted has been well documented.
Video footage of the motorcade, ADSB flight path data of the planes.
The fact that your favourite media source does not report it does not invalidate it.
Mick

Indeed you may not be climate denier Mullokintyre. But you still choose to cite the most basic, tedious, climate denier "arguments" that do the rounds of the the climate denial media. So why ?

Of course Heads of Government and big wigs fly in and out of conferences. Should they walk or hitch a ride on a yacht like Greta Thundberg ? And sure you can look at many lifestyles there and see conspicuous consumption that is xissing out tons of CO2. But focusing on those symbols to distract people from the disaster that is unfolding summararises your first point to a T
Sticking pejorative labels on people is a poor way prosecute an argument.

The rabbiting on about "the hypocrisy of the elites" has nothing to do with wanting to focus serious, serious action on dealing with climate change. It's intention is to undermine anyone and everyone who speaks up in this conversation. Whether it was trashing Al Gore, Tim Flannery or any ASF poster who didn't live in a cave the charge was always the same.

And it never, ever wanted to acknowledge what CC was doing and how we could deal with it.

 

[basilio]

It is encouraging to see at least some of the big players in Australian Mining move quickly to zero emission mining and not use BS carbon credits in the process. One of the most obvious leaders has been Twiggy Forrest (who has his own private jet..) but there are others as well. (Havn't seen Gina Rinehart yet )

Good story on the ABC.

Key points:​

• Miners have been ramping up plans to cut their carbon emissions in the lead up to COP26
• Some, like FMG, are creating completely new revenue streams
• Lobby groups want more action, sooner, on "scope 3" emissions

'Clean up our own backyard': Australian miners ramp up plans to cut carbon emissions

Fossil fuels are fast losing favour in Australia as some of the country's biggest miners shift to a greener business model.

www.abc.net.au