Do you have a link ?
The Guardian article quote informed sources, I'd like to see yours
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...on-increase-due-to-climate-change-study-finds
More to come over the next few days ...
Umm Wayne,
I count places for 41 graphs (they didn't all display on my system, but I have a poor Internet connection) on that page. Precisely TWO (2) are global data. One is a drought index, and the other is precipitation. None of the others include the southern hemisphere, and a large proportion are only for the US (many only the contiguous states).
That in no way answers the Guardian article, which refers to several types of extreme weather event and points out that "extreme" depends on the region as well as the event - an extreme heat wave in the UK would likely not be extreme in Marble Bar.
I don't see the connection between "risk adjusted stats" and Watts' extreme weather page. Is there one? For that matter, what's the relevance of risk adjustment to the global frequency and intensity of extreme weather events? Humans don't live on most of the globe.
Cheers,
Ghoti
See Pielke Jnr's work for the risk adjusted stuff. Risk adjustment is to counter the artifact of increased monetary damage because of greater population etc.
The IPCC themselves see no trend apart from increased heatwaves.
Earth is Experiencing a Global Warming Spurt
Published: January 5th, 2016
John Upton
Cyclical changes in the Pacific Ocean have thrown earth’s surface into what may be an unprecedented warming spurt, following a global warming slowdown that lasted about 15 years.
While El Niño is being blamed for an outbreak of floods, storms and unseasonable temperatures across the planet, a much slower-moving cycle of the Pacific Ocean has also been playing a role in record-breaking warmth. The recent effects of both ocean cycles are being amplified by climate change.
A 2014 flip was detected in the sluggish and elusive ocean cycle known as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, or PDO, which also goes by other names, including the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation. Despite uncertainty about the fundamental nature of the PDO, leading scientists link its 2014 phase change to a rapid rise in global surface temperatures.
For those people interested in looking at all the evidence around climate change this article from Climate Central offers some sober news. It seems that the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, or PDO, is flipping from a cool cycle to a warm rinse (sic) which will amplify the ongoing effects of global warming.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/earth-experiences-global-warming-spurt-19877
The effects of the PDO on global warming can be likened to a staircase, with warming leveling off for periods, typically of more than a decade, and then bursting upward.
For those people interested in looking at all the evidence around climate change this article from Climate Central offers some sober news. It seems that the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, or PDO, is flipping from a cool cycle to a warm rinse (sic) which will amplify the ongoing effects of global warming.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/earth-experiences-global-warming-spurt-19877
The effects of the PDO on global warming can be likened to a staircase, with warming leveling off for periods, typically of more than a decade, and then bursting upward.
Cyclical changes in the Pacific Ocean have thrown earth’s surface into what may be an unprecedented warming spurt, following a global warming slowdown that lasted about 15 years.
More kids to top themselves?
It is interesting that you consider my concern for the mental health of young people affected by unwarranted alarmism as "nasty", particularly as someone close to me has already suicided, citing AGW fears.Could you elaborate on that?
When not sure how to hold an argument together it seems to bring out a nasty little streak.
And of course the Oil lobbies Murdoch press is much more innocent,, really
That's uncalled for Wayne.I often wonder what basilio's agenda is, breathlessly regurgitating every Apocalyptic propaganda piece from The Guardian.
More kids to top themselves?
That's uncalled for Wayne.
You might disagree with Basilio, or me, or the >90% of practising climate experts who acknowledge the threat that global warming poses to this and future generations of children. But that, as I'm sure you know, doesn't mean you can deny their good will.
I think you owe Basilio an apology.
The Guardian article that Sir Rumpole referred to is about extreme weather. The Pielke Jr work you're alluding to is about disaster. Not all disasters are the result of extreme weather; one obvious cause unrelated to weather is earthquake. Not all extreme weather leads to disaster. One current example is the above zero temperatures at the North Pole.See Pielke Jnr's work for the risk adjusted stuff. Risk adjustment is to counter the artifact of increased monetary damage because of greater population etc.
Ah so your a card carrying member of the "let's take offense at trifles and demand an apology party".
Yep, when basilio apologizes for his recent ad hom.... But I won't hold my breath.
Double standards methinks.
Isn't Noco interesting? The article he quotes from Grist on the IPCC report is an interesting and very useful read on the processes of bringing together all the research on Climate Change and attempting to create a coherent picture at one point in time. Well worth a read - in total. Cherry picking sections is just dishonest.
Yep research does bring up new information Noco. That's why its done.
That's why we know so much more about our climate now than 30 years ago.
That's why climate scientists are even more concerned about our future than ever before.
http://grist.org/climate-energy/wtf-is-the-ipcc/
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