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Redbank was interesrting because it was one of the newest plants in the country (relatively speaking). It was also relatively small. I thought the bankers would keep it running but it turned out not to be the case. It spent most of this year running at near capacity.
A little sanctimonious there Weatsop.
'We know climate change will kill poor people..' Unlike prohibitively expensive electricity I suppose.
This large solar plant is frying rare birds which may become extinct, just like those wind farms in Australia.
Where are the Greenies including Ban-ki-Moon...why aren't they screaming from the roof tops.....get rid of those solar plant....we must save the rare birds.
http://news.discovery.com/tech/alte...-solar-power-plant-scorching-birds-140219.htm
Bye-bye birdies. The world’s largest solar power plant that recently opened in the Mojave Desert has a gruesome effect: birds are getting fried to death when they fly near its towers
1. Climate change is largely about *economic* costs. People who want to avoid it are not necessarily tree-hugging greenies. I don't really give a crap about dead birds.
2. Almost anything humans build kills birds. My kitchen window kills birds. This report talks about "dozens". Wow. Dozens. That's world-ending, right there.
Many millions of birds die every year to powerlines, windows, cars, all sorts of stuff.
You've linked to an article that basically says: "Really hot thing can kill critters stupid enough to fly into it: report just in from the Ministry of No-Kidding, Sherlock".
I know this will bring some flack from the lefties being a Bolt report but what he says is correct.
I recommend those critics read the comments at the end.
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...their_warming_stupidity_less_money_for_super/
I particularly like this comment :-
Tasco replied to Keith
Fri 07 Nov 14 (01:03pm)
Socialist strategy is always to bankrupt the economy and to over-promise to the sheeple. That way they get a guaranteed share of votes to get re-elected. The problem comes as we see in Europe and USA that when the debt becomes unsustainable they have to rob from the savers until the whole system collapses. The left has a lot to answer for!
Up in North Queensland a few farmers erected electric barricades to stop the flying foxes from eating the fruits like leeches and Mangoes, the Greenies protested because it was killing the flying foxes and the Government made the farmers dismantle them to appease the bloody Greenies.......OMG you can't kill the flying foxes say the Greenies, which in mind are a menace.....So the flying foxes are all so stupid.
Different story or are they being hypocritical?....they can't have it both ways.
THE GREENIES are not a hive mind. Some "greenies" are idiots. Some aren't. Some people working on the science of climate change - shock - haven't even heard of the mango-farmers of north Queensland, or their flying-foxes.
I could point out that electric fences that kill flying foxes sound bloody uneconomical, compared with nets. Were they doing it to save money, or just because they like killing bats?
I should also point out that bats carry a lot of diseases, some of which can kill you very dead. Healthy bats don't tend to scratch people, but injured ones lying on the side of the road might.
Without any information other than your own, probably third hand, account, can we be sure it was greenies being idiots, or just someone being cranky about their pet project getting knocked on the head?
Either way, how is this relevant to anything?
You obviously have a one sided view.......I am giving some comparisons of how the Greenies love renewable energy irrespective of the fact that wind farms and solar are expensive and only 15% efficient and also the fact that it is killing millions of birds of which they will turn a blind eye to but when it comes to building a new dam to store rain water, the Greenies will put up all the objections in the world as to why a new dam should not be built.
Healthy flying foxes eat plenty of fruit which in turn gives less profit to the farmer.
Your argument in this case does not hold water......dams do!!!!!!!!!!!
but when it comes to building a new dam to store rain water, the Greenies will put up all the objections in the world as to why a new dam should not be built.
It actually spent most of its (relatively short) life running at full capacity. A true baseload operation, offline only for maintenance really ...
The situation in Brazil right now says it all really. They're in drought, serious drought, and the water supply is now failing in some parts of major cities. That's about as bad as things can get really (well, it is until the power runs out too).
Meanwhile, incredible as it sounds, they still keep cutting down trees in the Amazon.
So long as we keep thinking like that as a species, we're doomed really. And no, the solution isn't nuclear power and desalination plants. The solution is to stop wrecking nature in the first place then trying to find workarounds for the mess we've made.
From a purely rational perspective, if someone believes that climate change is happening then logically they'd be strongly in favour of increased water storage and, where necessary, tapping of additional catchment areas since that is a very logical response to a changing climate.
Ideologically however, Greens supporting dams is comparable to Liberals supporting unions. It's not impossible, it may well happen someday, bit it's a difficult bridge to cross no matter what the arguments for or against. Hence the desal plants built as a politically acceptable workaround, albeit one that's inferior both economically and environmentally.
And that is what the LNP Government is all about with their direct action plan.....grow more trees and assist industry with ways to cut down pollution.
How is paying industry with OUR money to reduce pollution better than taxing their pollution and using the money for clean energy ?
All "Direct Action" does is entrench the coal industry in power generation.
And the highest Carbon dioxide tax in the world did nothing for the environment but did cost the average working families an extra $550 per year....that was OUR money also.
The Carbon dioxide tax??????????There will be no carbon dioxide tax under the Government I lead....remember?
17 days later Gillard stitched up a deal with Greens just to stay in power.
So what do you say the direct action plan will cost the average family?...any idea?
Julia Gillard's carbon price promise
In an election-eve interview with The Australian, the Prime Minister revealed she would view victory tomorrow as a mandate for a carbon price, provided the community was ready for this step.
From the Australian. The day before the election.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...907522983?nk=4277fb2f5500c22ed7ca5785f4bb000c
Then people said a price was a tax, so she lied. In other words, if she *hadn't* put in a price, she would have lied, since she promised she would. And when she *did* put in a price, she also lied, since she promised no tax. EITHER WAY she "lied".
At the point that whatever you do is going to be a broken promise, because people choose not to understand what language means - well, that's the worst kind of semantic bull****.
...I also fail to see even remotely the same hammering at Abbott over a multitude of broken promises in his first year.
I don't have a horse in the race - I've voted for Donkey for many years now, and I don't think we've had a decent government or opposition yet this century - but this whole "Juliar" crap really gets my goat.
SmellyTerror I agree on all your first 2 points there but not point 3. To continuously state she won't introduce a carbon tax during the election campaign and then 24 hours before the election she back flips is quite misleading. How many people actually saw this information before they voted? What about all the people that had postal voted including myself, we were lied to as far as I'm concerned. A carbon tax should have been taken to the electorate, we should have seen the arguments for and against it and been able to vote accordingly in the same way Howard did with the GST.
People forget - it had been discussed at length. I only used that one because it's as clear and unambiguous as it gets. A carbon price was part of Labor's platform for a long time before the election - remember when Turnbull got dumped for trying to side with Labor?
See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_Pollution_Reduction_Scheme
Gillard's post-Rudd period definitely did talk about an altered form of that scheme. In fact, from the same article: This is the strongest message Ms Gillard has sent about action on carbon pricing.
Strongest. Not first, not "OMG she's sprung it on us". The newspaper isn't explaining what it means, as they would if we'd only just heard about it. The "news" is that she's saying tomorrow's election will give her a mandate for the scheme in the next term.
(And I'd suggest the result, a Labor victory only with the support of the Greens, was about as obvious a mandate as you will EVER get for something like that. LABOR wasn't in government. Labor / Greens were).
The fact that everyone ended up thinking she DID spring it on us is the most blatant example of "spin" as you can find on this planet of earth.
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