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Resisting Climate Hysteria

Climate change is pretty "ho-hum" except for a few diehards who are still waxing hysterical.




On a lighter note:


www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/cu...-of-civilisation/story-fn72xczz-1226826512332

That's fantastic Calliope. I really have to check out the research on cat breeding and fur balls. Do you think Monckton or Wayne could provide some critical material on the topic?

I can understand your frustration. After all we only have a few years left to live so why spoil it worrying about stuff that will only affect our spoilt kids and even more spoilt grandkids. Lets kick up our heels and party like it's 1999.

Cheers
 
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But Cynic. When you you put up posts that try to say we need to produce more CO2 to keep the extra humans and animals happy you are slaughtering a thousand scientific facts without a beat.


I've yet to see any of the "thousand scientific facts" that you claim I am "slaughtering" with my CO2 requirements assertion!
(That's right! I was forgetting! Some believe science is confined to google searching opinion supportive articles!)


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On a positive note, IF......and I say, IF, there is climate change occurring, and it means we are getting less rainfall, it means better conditions to watch the upcoming AFL season

The days of sleet, drizzle and freezing winds are over!!!!

Duckman
 

You are still playing ad hominem fallacies basilio and not addressing the point, to wit, IPCC equivocation and inappropriate use of confidence intervals.

Regarding Monckton lying, cherry picking etc... Are you having a lend? Your alarmist lot are masters of the art, but fortunately real empirical data tells on them. I don't care about Moncktons otherwise credibility, he just highlights a point made by a multitude of others.

As for the line on "pathological liars and borderline criminals" in CC science? Typical cheap shot. But of course you don't want to give names or quote examples. Far easier and safer to slag the lot isn't it ?

It is not cheap when it is factual. As a matter of respect for Joe and ASF as publisher, I won't open the potential for vexatious litigation, however we have Climategate and the Gleick affair as matters of public record. We also have the takedown of the recent fraudulent representation of consensus.


Ah yes the serial whiner M Mann. Speaking of liars, what do you call someone who claims to be a Nobel Laureate.... and isn't. What does that say about someone?

basilio, vexatious lawsuits such as the one you mention is not about defamation, it is creating expenditure for the defendant, win or lose, believe me on that one.

For instance, Monckton could quite easily sue you (and ASF as publisher for that matter) for libel for your remarks here. I wouldn't matter if he won or not, but you (and possibly ASF) would be crippled financially by the end of it.



If you care to, you could address the point at hand, rather than playing this obnoxious political card.
 
Mount Kelud has erupted spewing volcanic ash and Co2 into the atmosphere. BAD. Virgin Airlines have cancelled all their flights to Bali til further notice. (therefore no Co2 from planes) GOOD. Does one cancel out the other?
 
Mount Kelud has erupted spewing volcanic ash and Co2 into the atmosphere. BAD. Virgin Airlines have cancelled all their flights to Bali til further notice. (therefore no Co2 from planes) GOOD. Does one cancel out the other?

99 mm of rain dumped on Adelaide this morning.

Eight or more police cars on four intersections directing traffic.
I have never seen so many policemen doing something useful! :

Relevance to topic:
How much sea level rise was cancelled out by this downpour?
And how much yesterday, when I was not measuring?
 
So far as the public perception and politics of climate change is concerned, we've certainly had quite a few fairly obvious weather extremes recently. Ignoring the science, it will certainly get a few people thinking about the subject.

Extreme cold in the USA causing a lot of issues, problems distributing fossil fuels being one of them (there's an LPG shortage in some parts of the US - not due to a lack of it as such, but they can't move it to consumers quickly enough to cope with demand due to heating).

Very wet in the UK and causing all sorts of issues.

Very hot in SE Australia followed by the heaviest rainfall in 40 years today in Adelaide which has caused some minor flooding problems. And of course the fires in Vic, including one that has spread into an open cut coal mine (coal mine fires being difficult to put out once they get going).

130 km/h winds in Hobart last weekend caused some minor damage, a few roofs came off, power lines and trees down, outright chaos at the Elwick racecourse with marquees blowing around etc.

I'm not saying that any of this is or isn't related to climate change, but it will get a few people thinking about the subject I'd expect.
 
... power lines and trees down ...

Not entirely off topic:

We have what is locally known as a "Significant Tree"!

Being of a certain stature, it is listed, and thereby made "Sacred".

In the next street is such a "Significant tree", which dropped a branch on Power Lines.
It caused two fires, a road blockage and a substantial outage.

The outage was accompanied by a huge surge.

Being an older suburb (workers' housing in the late forties, early fifties),
some were not equipped with surge arresters (self included)

(My neighbour lost $12k in damages though he claims to have had a surge arrester.)

I was at a loss, no TV!! :
So I went to the library and borrowed Louise Bedford's "Candlestick Charting"


The electrician has been.
A claim form is in the post from the power company.

All good now.

Except for one thing.
There is still branches overhanging the power lines.
The power company is powerless to trim the tree.
 
After all we only have a few years left to live so why spoil it worrying about stuff that will only affect our spoilt kids and even more spoilt grandkids. Lets kick up our heels and party like it's 1999.

Cheers

Now you're talking my language. Even Old Father Time can put aside his scythe for a little dalliance.

 
Good to see that true skeptics (you know who you are!!) are keeping science and the media honest and making sure we don't waste hard earned tax payers dollars on unnecessary public works.

Just saw this report on a debate between scientist Bill Nye and GOP Rep Gohmert.


http://www.juancole.com/2014/02/science-gohmert-gravity.html
 
Got my electrickery bill the other day and it was over $700 for the first time ... $67 of it was CARBON TAX !!!

So I am doing my bit to stop using this stuff they call electricity that pollutes the world with it's nasty carbon dioxide that is raising sea levels and wiping out entire species and making us hotter. Might have to go and turn the air conditioning on again to cool down as it is 39 degrees here today
 
Got my electrickery bill the other day and it was over $700 for the first time ... $67 of it was CARBON TAX !!! ... nasty carbon dioxide ...

Just a pity it won't go towards reducing emissions!

Or mitigating problematic catastrophic disaster!
 

Basilio, thanks for providing yet another fine example highlighting the folly of entertaining claims made by those unwilling or unable to differentiate between fiction, popular fallacies, contemporary science and recorded history. (Note the factually incorrect assertions by Gohmert in relation to biblical texts and contemporary physics).

P.S. I still await your response to my request for substantion of your "slaughtering a thousand scientific facts" allegation. By my last tally zero have been presented! It may inerest you to know that there is a big difference between zero and one thousand.
If there were any real substance to your outlandish allegation, then surely you should be able to improve on that number!
 
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What has this got to do with the debate on climate change?


Basilio is referring to the power of distortion and confusion.

It has everything to do with the debate on climate change. The tactics are to confuse the evidence and the debate to AN HYSTERICAL level, Wayno ole pal
 
Basilio is referring to the power of distortion and confusion.

It has everything to do with the debate on climate change. The tactics are to confuse the evidence and the debate to AN HYSTERICAL level, Wayno ole pal

Yep... !! And for dear Cynic; that was a satirical piece intended to do exactly what Explod pointed out.

And as I said earlier I will not attempt to discuss science with a person who seriously believes he has a better grasp of the Theory of Relativity than the best scientists in the field.
 
It appears basilio is hoist by his own petard then.
 
wayneL's Law applies basilio, ergo you do not possess the objectivity to make that sort of qualitative assessment.

e.g. your evangelistic belief in Cook's discredited consensus paper.

Need I say more?
 
Graduate BA and MA holders seem to be running the alarmist campaign, e.g. that householder on the bank of the Hawkesbury River, the utterly ridiculous FlimFlammery.

They are specialists in propaganda, not science.

They need to understand, as WayneL does, that no true scientist would ever ever say the science is decided and 97% of scientists agree..

On their logic, let's have more zoologists and biometricians employed at Treasury.
 
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