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Resisting Climate Hysteria

We have had blast of winter weather in the past few days.

When you look at the very large changes that are happening to the climate around the world are we just trying to kid ourselves that nothing is actually happening because of a winter blast ?

For example August and September were extremely warm months across Australia. The BOM website details just how our climate is changing.

We know that the last 2 years have been cooler and wetter because of the La Nina effect. This year we will probabaly return to a normal hot summer - with a bit extra because of overall global warming.

(At this stage the BOM believes we will not have an El Niño )


http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/aus/archive/201209.summary.shtml
 
Yeh, we know basilio.
The climates changing, the government has brought in a new tax. They are not shutting down 'dirty' coal fired stations and it is snowing in southern Queensland.
 
Climate Spin is Rampant


So if the science is so clear on this subject, why then are companies and campaigners, abetted by a willing media, engaged in spreading misinformation?
 

wow dangerous
 
Article from the UK's Mail online

 
A big win for the global warming alarmists. If the alarmists were subject to the same discipline, i.e. they cannot exaggerate or tell lies, there would be a shortage of "external trainers" because they are all alarmists.

ACMA has ordered all 2GB news and current affairs staff to undergo training in factual accuracy by next month.
External trainers will conduct training sessions for Jones and other news and current affairs staff at 2GB.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...ent-apology-20121019-27v88.html#ixzz29iwE336W
 
Temperatures are measured at ground level. The increased temperature of the atmosphere overall creates more moisture to rise and therefore more cloud cover over the lower level where the temperature is monitored.

The movements between the upper and lower are becoming increasingly violent, ie. more floods and wild storms.

Those off the land and in our elder years can see these things increasing compared to the past. One does not have to be a rocket scientist, the anecdotal is enough now for those with the right eyes (those that care I might add) to see,

what is alarmist about a such view?
 

The fact that it is incorrect?
 

because its not based in reality, we are not getting more floods or wild storms...
 
Did, and your run for shelter is a meaningless scoff at reality.

Surely you can do better than that.

Arithmetic, hard science, actual unadjusted records... these things are reality.

Pielke Jnr oped :

 
Arithmetic, hard science, actual unadjusted records... these things are reality.

Pielke Jnr oped :

But Wayne, since when did we decide to allow the truth to get in the way of a great Story?

P.S. Keep up the good work, the tireless churning of the propaganda mill by these religious fanatics is starting to exhaust me.
 
Arithmetic, hard science, actual unadjusted records... these things are reality.

So obviously you quote Dr Pielke as an example of un-reality.

...damage has declined after accounting for development...
and
...After adjusting for patterns of development,...

Or are you providing an example of why data often needs adjusting before it can provide meaningful information?

Or both?

Whatever, good point. Thank you.

Ghoti
 
So obviously you quote Dr Pielke as an example of un-reality.

and

Or are you providing an example of why data often needs adjusting before it can provide meaningful information?

Or both?

Whatever, good point. Thank you.

Ghoti

Such tiresome logical fallacy. <<--(just so you wouldn't be disappointed)

Can you lease illustrate why adjustment of temp records is analogous to adjusting raw damage incidence for increases in exposure via population increases etc?
 
Such tiresome logical fallacy. <<--(just so you wouldn't be disappointed)

How kind; I hope they don't hurt.

Can you lease illustrate why adjustment of temp records is analogous to adjusting raw damage incidence for increases in exposure via population increases etc?

Well, in both cases the aim is to see if a trend exists and if so what it is. That's one reason they're analogous. Then in both cases we know of some irrelevant factors that could hide or disguise a trend. For costs of damage from extreme weather they include demographic changes and inflation. For surface temperature they include changes in the location of weather stations (e.g. Wellington, where there's a height difference of over 120 metres, as you probably know http://www.niwa.co.nz/our-science/c...rature-data-from-multiple-sites-in-wellington). That's another reason.
 
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