Resisting Climate Hysteria

explod · 3 March 2012

Those who believe that climate change may be a problem are not the ones who introduced the word "extremists" or the heading "hysteria".

The "extremists" so called are concerned that man's footprint is indeed having an adverse effect on climate, be that the combination of droughts, floods and storms.

However the rhetoric and slinging matches are introduced into arguments when all else is failing and to detract from the real issues and the subsequent growing evidence.

Garpal Gumnut · 3 March 2012

explod said:
Those who believe that climate change may be a problem are not the ones who introduced the word "extremists" or the heading "hysteria".

The "extremists" so called are concerned that man's footprint is indeed having an adverse effect on climate, be that the combination of droughts, floods and storms.

However the rhetoric and slinging matches are introduced into arguments when all else is failing and to detract from the real issues and the subsequent growing evidence.

Sorry plod, I cannot agree.

In every generation the crusties, lacking god to beat us with, invent a new apocalypse.

So called " Global Heat" is the 2012 iteration of a misguided university led false faith.

Meanwhile the rest of us toil and pay taxes to keep these bludgers in a job.

gg

sptrawler · 3 March 2012

I wonder how many house buyers in Western Sydney, bought a house on the belief 'climate change Proffesor' Tim Flannery knew what he was talking about.
Didn't he say the dam will never fill again due to global warming, what a dick.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/w...s-after-sydney-dam-spills-20120303-1u9a0.html

Just the sort of person labor surround themselves with. LOL,LOL,LOL Talk up a storm, bring in a tax, blow your feet off in three easy steps.

explod · 3 March 2012

Garpal Gumnut said:
Sorry plod, I cannot agree.

In every generation the crusties, lacking god to beat us with, invent a new apocalypse.

So called " Global Heat" is the 2012 iteration of a misguided university led false faith.

Meanwhile the rest of us toil and pay taxes to keep these bludgers in a job.

gg

The real polluters pay, with government subsidies thrown in, almost no tax whilst some of us top earners who have really worked pay towards 48 cents in the dollar.

Of course there is the guise that they employ a lot of people. With modern tools I bet very few are employed weighted per capita against earnings.

Bit of resentment there against uni backgounds, interesting.

And it would be interesting to dig deep and see who the real bludgers are GG

orr · 3 March 2012

explod said:
However the rhetoric and slinging matches are introduced into arguments when all else is failing and to detract from the real issues and the subsequent growing evidence.

Sort of akin to the increasing frisson between the troposphere and the stratosphere, unless of course you deny that observed fact. And I might add fits with predictive models, and the Koch's Climate study Findings.

Calliope · 3 March 2012

explod said:
The real polluters pay, with government subsidies thrown in, almost no tax whilst some of us top earners who have really worked pay towards 48 cents in the dollar.

WOW! The copper's superannuation pension fund must be a real beauty, and all paid for by the Victorian taxpayer.

basilio · 3 March 2012

Calliope said:
WOW! The copper's superannuation pension fund must be a real beauty, and all paid for by the Victorian taxpayer.

You are a mean SOB. Exactly what relation does anyones super fund have to to this topic? And if you want to have a look at super fund ripoffs perhaps we can examine the tax payer subsidised accounts of high flyers with fancy accounts and generous tax breaks. They are costing the rest of us a packet.

Stick to your anti global warming nonsense calliope. At least that is on topic.

explod · 3 March 2012

Calliope said:
WOW! The copper's superannuation pension fund must be a real beauty, and all paid for by the Victorian taxpayer.

Actually that is not correct, apart from my early career the Emergency Services Superannuation Scheme was private and largely self funded apart from an employers contribution, being no more than most in private enterprise. In fact in my latter years 25% of my pay was going into my super. After leaving the Force I created a SMSF so the taxpayers has been completely spared now for 14 years.

And some rolleyes to you too champ.

Now lets get back to these links that show that global warming may be causing the floods.

Calliope · 3 March 2012

basilio said:
You are a mean SOB. Exactly what relation does anyones super fund have to to this topic?

There, there, no need to get nasty and all motherly. I was just responding to Plod's :topic claim that he was paying 48 cents in the dollar tax on his pension.

Stick to your anti global warming nonsense calliope. At least that is on topic.

I'll leave the global warming nonsense to you. Just remember that being boring is worse than being :topic

explod · 3 March 2012

Calliope said:
There, there, no need to get nasty and all motherly. I was just responding to Plod's :topic claim that he was paying 48 cents in the dollar tax on his pension.

I'll leave the global warming nonsense to you. Just remember that being boring is worse than being :topic

and

Meanwhile the rest of us toil and pay taxes to keep these bludgers in a job.

gg

Plod was merely responding to GG who of course throws up the screen at any time that he feels that rat.ags like yourself start losing the plot/I mean argument.

And lets face it, it was a very stupid nasty thing to say to anyone.

Garpal Gumnut · 3 March 2012

Sorry, I didn't intend to inflame the situation. I'd be happy to have my post deleted. Religion and politics as in Global Heat always seem to inflame posters. It is all weather in my simple opinion.

gg

Calliope · 3 March 2012

explod said:
And lets face it, it was a very stupid nasty thing to say to anyone.

Yes, calling someone an SOB is pretty nasty. It's obviously intended as an insult to my mother.

explod · 3 March 2012

So where were we:-

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...h-east-monsoon

http://www.climategrump.net/2011/04/...uel-no-really/

http://www.heatisonline.org/contents...20&method=full

From posts earlier in the day and on topic.

moXJO · 3 March 2012

explod said:
So where were we:-

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...h-east-monsoon

http://www.climategrump.net/2011/04/...uel-no-really/

http://www.heatisonline.org/contents...20&method=full

From posts earlier in the day and on topic.

none of those links work

IFocus · 3 March 2012

Garpal Gumnut said:
Sorry, I didn't intend to inflame the situation. I'd be happy to have my post deleted. Religion and politics as in Global Heat always seem to inflame posters. It is all weather in my simple opinion.

gg

Weathers still dry in Perth could you use some of your contacts to send some of the floods over thanks GG

derty · 7 March 2012

Gee it is like ground hog day in here.

lindsayf said:
The tone and use of language in here is like a debate between opposing religious extremists.

I think you will find it is a debate with a heavy smattering of mountaineers with numerous trolls amongst the crags.

Had a quick look back a few pages, suprised I didn't see OWG proclaiming from the mountain top that the 'IPCC killed the MWP'. He must have had a bad fall.

sails · 7 March 2012

Artic ice melting...really - the chart below says artic ice is a fine. Sound like another AGW prediction that has failed.

And, it seems that Fairfax will report the climate scares, but not the reasurances - is that selective and biased reporting or what? Maybe Gina will insist on ALL information being reported and that would be a good thing for this country, imo.

Read all about it: No news for Fairfax: the Arctic ice is doing fine

Knobby22 · 7 March 2012

sails said:
Artic ice melting...really - the chart below says artic ice is a fine. Sound like another AGW prediction that has failed.

And, it seems that Fairfax will report the climate scares, but not the reasurances - is that selective and biased reporting or what? Maybe Gina will insist on ALL information being reported and that would be a good thing for this country, imo.

Read all about it: No news for Fairfax: the Arctic ice is doing fine

Mentions extent but not thickness.
I know where you appear on derty's graph.

Garpal Gumnut · 7 March 2012

It's pissing rain in Townsville at the moment.

gg

Garpal Gumnut · 7 March 2012

We were having, in the public bar here, quite an interesting Kantian discussion on whether all that is or could be experienced is thinkable.

And then the bloody rain came, and we can hardly hear ourselves think.

gg

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