Garpal Gumnut
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Its is interesting watching the disconnect in generations as the selfish baby boomers fight to defend their wealth at the expense of the younger generations.
The rally's against climate change filled with gray hairs and the rally's for filled with future generations.
This seems to also flow though to a whole range of issues not just CG.
Any thing to do with the future BB's ardently refuse any change that endangers their wealth no matter what the risk is to the future.
They / we seem happy for others to pay for their belligerence.
Not at the current rate, ever.
Yes, Explod, at the current rate, often!!!
Ah, jolly good: here we go again with the stupid mass generalisations about any age cohort. Can't you just perhaps think for yourself instead of incessantly subscribing to such a cliche?Its is interesting watching the disconnect in generations as the selfish baby boomers fight to defend their wealth at the expense of the younger generations.
I can't help myself here, although I usually refrain from correcting spelling, there is no such word as 'rally's', unless perhaps someone called 'rally' were to be indicating something belonging to him/her.The rally's against climate change filled with gray hairs and the rally's for filled with future generations.
What utter piffle! I'm a baby boomer and fairly typical amongst my friends and acquaintances of this generation. If there are additional costs as a result of a carbon tax, it isn't going to materially affect our standard of living in the slightest.This seems to also flow though to a whole range of issues not just CG.
Any thing to do with the future BB's ardently refuse any change that endangers their wealth no matter what the risk is to the future.
They / we seem happy for others to pay for their belligerence.
But most of all, I'm simply outraged about a government, in its state of being held hostage to the nutty Greens, which is about to impose on the whole population a tax which even they or their 'advisers' have openly admitted will make no difference to the climate, especially in the light of any such similar action being taken by major emitters of the dreaded carbon dioxide.
Its is interesting watching the disconnect in generations as the selfish baby boomers fight to defend their wealth at the expense of the younger generations.
The rally's against climate change filled with gray hairs and the rally's for filled with future generations.
This seems to also flow though to a whole range of issues not just CG.
Any thing to do with the future BB's ardently refuse any change that endangers their wealth no matter what the risk is to the future.
They / we seem happy for others to pay for their belligerence.
Not at the current rate, ever.
Its is interesting watching the disconnect in generations as the selfish baby boomers fight to defend their wealth at the expense of the younger generations.
But what will carbon tax actually achieve? I posted an email the other day from Mark Dreyfus who stated that temperatures will not fall with carbon tax even up to the next 50 years. It seems very unlikely that carbon tax will do a thing for the environment - so how does that make anyone (let alone baby boomers) selfish for resisting this unnecessary tax imposition?
The carbon tax is about attitude. Many believe we have to start somewhere and this tax will impact on the biggest polluters who will have to clean up their act and approach.
I do not know if the carbon tax is the correct way to start but any move to try and change the general mindset towards having greater regard for our fragile planet is good in my view.
And yes Australia is less than a mere grain in the sand compared to the rest of the world but we are an educated developed country and it is at this level world wide that needs to lead the less developed worlds. If is was not for us from our Motherland England/Spain et.al. the third world would still be in their jungles healthy and happy.
So we have to take some reponsibility.
Dreadful droughts across China and Texas at the moment and apprently a lot of the Antartic ice shelf is about to slide into the ocean. Happened before, sure but not at this speed. Check out the book "The Sixth Extinction", what was before is all there.
And of course its colder than before at times in some places, I was told by my Children doing science 20 years ago at school that global warming would bring about grteater extremes. Warmer areas bring more cloud at times which creates colder spots at times. And apart from being an armchair expert just looking out the window is not going to tell us very much at all.
The carbon tax is about attitude. Many believe we have to start somewhere and this tax will impact on the biggest polluters who will have to clean up their act and approach.
I do not know if the carbon tax is the correct way to start but any move to try and change the general mindset towards having greater regard for our fragile planet is good in my view.
And yes Australia is less than a mere grain in the sand compared to the rest of the world but we are an educated developed country and it is at this level world wide that needs to lead the less developed worlds. If is was not for us from our Motherland England/Spain et.al. the third world would still be in their jungles healthy and happy.
So we have to take some reponsibility.
Dreadful droughts across China and Texas at the moment and apprently a lot of the Antartic ice shelf is about to slide into the ocean. Happened before, sure but not at this speed. Check out the book "The Sixth Extinction", what was before is all there.
And of course its colder than before at times in some places, I was told by my Children doing science 20 years ago at school that global warming would bring about grteater extremes. Warmer areas bring more cloud at times which creates colder spots at times. And apart from being an armchair expert just looking out the window is not going to tell us very much at all.
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I was told by my Children doing science 20 years ago at school that global warming would bring about grteater extremes.
Dreadful droughts across China and Texas at the moment and apprently a lot of the Antartic ice shelf is about to slide into the ocean. Happened before, sure but not at this speed.
China has mobilized troops to help with flood relief and raised its disaster alert to the highest level after days of downpours forced the evacuation of more than half a million people in central and southern provinces.
Recall the meaning of the PDSI, in which values of -2 to -3 are "moderate drought", -3 to -4 are "severe drought", and -4 and below are "extreme drought". So the current value of about -3.2 is indeed a severe drought. At least if the PDSI is to be believed, it's not unprecedented however: I count 15 different years which have had a lower PDSI in March than 2011.
I've also added a trendline, which you will note slopes upward (ie to wetter conditions). However, a regression comes up with a slope of 0.0056 ± 0.0075 PDSI units/year - ie. the trend is smaller than the uncertainty and so it's not a statistically significant trend. At any rate, there certainly is no evidence in the record that Texas is getting drier overall (at least in March, at least so far).
"The West Antarctic ice sheet has been retreating for several thousand years, so to look now and see that it is growing is staggering to me," Tulaczyk said. "Within the past 200 years, the ice sheet seems to have switched fairly rapidly from a negative mass balance to a positive mass balance."
Anything Green or otherwise to the Left has always tended to appeal more to the young (most notably uni students) whilst as people age their views tend to drift more to the Right.
I was absolutely a supporter of conservationists (the Greens as such not existing at the time) many years ago. Then I finished school and the first party I ever voted for was Labor. In due course my views drifted further away from the Left, though I still can't vote Liberal whilst they cling on to that religion nonsense.
I remember very well a political debate (with actual candidates attending) when I was in year 11 or 12. Probably 85% supported Bob Brown, and the rest were with Labor. Nobody, and I mean nobody, dared express any support for the Liberals. Pretty obviously, that doesn't reflect the view of the population as a whole, even though it reflected the view of 16 - 18 year olds at the time.
Based on what I've observed over the history of the party's existence, I'd say that the support base of the Greens is largely at either end of the spectrum. Young uni students etc at one end, high income professionals at the other.
Of all employed people aged 45 years and over who intended to retire from the labour force, 43% reported that their expected main source of income at retirement would be income from 'superannuation, an annuity or allocated pension'. The average age at which this group intended to retire was 63 years (64 years for men, 62 years for women). A higher proportion of men than women reported that this would be their main source of income (49% and 36% respectively).
The second most commonly reported expected main source of income at retirement was a 'government pension or allowance', with nearly one quarter (24%) of people who intended to retire expecting that this would be their main source (23% of men and 26% of women). The average age at which this group intended to retire was 65 years (66 years for men, 64 years for women). These ages are consistent with the age eligibility requirements to access the aged pension, which are 65 years for males, and between 63 and 65 years for females, depending on their date of birth (end note 7).
There were some men (10%) and women (20%) who intended to retire from the labour force and who did not expect to have any personal income source when they retired. These people expected to live off savings, assets or their partner's income. Women expecting to live off savings, assets or their partner's income had the lowest expected average age at retirement (60 years). Just over half (51%) of the women who intended to retire between the ages of 45 and 54 years, expected to have no personal income source when they retired.
People whose main expected source of income at retirement was 'own unincorporated business income', 'rental property income', 'dividends or interest', or 'superannuation, an annuity or allocated pension' were also asked to estimate how long they expected to be self-funding after they gave up all paid work. Close to half (44%) of those who reported their expected main source of income at retirement to be from 'superannuation, an annuity, or an allocated pension' estimated that they will be self-funding for life.
Both men and women intending to be funded by 'rental property income', or 'dividends or interest', also intended to retire relatively early, at 62 years. Over half (51%) of those intending to be mainly funded by 'rental property income' intended to be self-funding for life, as did 58% of those intending to be mainly funded by 'dividends or interest'.
Generally, men who intended to live off their 'own unincorporated business income' intended to retire relatively late. The average age at which they intended to retire was 66 years, and 43% of this group intended to be self-funding for life.
The baby boomer generation, who were aged between 42 and 61 years at the time of the survey, accounted for two-fifths (40%) of all employed people aged 15 years and over (39% of employed men and 41% of employed women) and the majority (87%) of employed people aged 45 years and over (85% of employed men and 90% of employed women). They also accounted for 21% of retired people aged 45 years and over (18% of retired men and 24% of retired women).
IFocus: Let's see you put up reliable links to the hysterical accusations you are making about baby boomers, huh?...
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