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Religious preachers use Rat Cunning, to take advantage of those with faith and hope, and take their charity.
Religious preachers use Rat Cunning, to take advantage of those with faith and hope, and take their charity.I live by the expanded version : "Faith , Hope , Charity & Rat Cunning".
Is somebody forcing your participation in this thread?!!No one.
If you have read my posts, thats what I am all about, freedom of and from religion.
By the way, you mob forcing your religion unto the rest of us is not freedom.
Religious preachers use Rat Cunning, to take advantage of those with faith and hope, and take their charity.
Is somebody forcing your participation in this thread?!!
You preaching to me?
I found myself in old surroundings the other week and lo and behold if I wasn't startled by a huge new building with expansive carpark and a cross crowning it. I was one of those 2000 plus auditorium seated evangelical christian rock setups run by the Baptist Church.
The Lord's Prayer in Parliament.
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.
As I said, our preamble is
Almighty God.
I may not be on quite the same page of the hymn book here.No, I was talking about saying the lords prayer in parliament and Tink's opinion that her religion should be taught in schools.
She doesn't seem to get that forcing her religion into the public schools isn't "religious freedom", it's the opposite, it goes against peoples right to religious freedom.
I am 100% with people having a religion, and building churches, and praying etc etc, They just don't have the right to get public funding for any of it, or to force their brand of faith on the public schools or government.
I also presume you aren't talking about provision of public funding to private sector institutions, in recognition of their contribution to society via alleviatoin of the load placed upon their public equivalents, such as schools, hospitals, community welfare services etc.
As to religion being forced into schools, I cannot say that I have noticed anything other than things like that insidious "anti bullying" programme, which appeared to have been a poorly disguised attempt at indoctrination of preadolescent children into the exploration and acceptance of LGBT sexual themes.
I have already said our foundations are Christian.
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In my view the government contribution per student should be the same for public and private schools and let the parents pay extra for private schools if they wish.
A lot of the Old Testament is just a rehash of myths that had being part of other religions before that, that Christians then and now say were false religions.
To name a few:
The story of the Garden of Eden
Heaven and Hell
The virgin birth.
The Holy Trinity (God being in 3 parts)
The Flood (Noah)
Parts of the Book of Proverbs
Angels and Demons and their hierarchy.
Its a hard question because a certain portion of religious schools might be quite crazy, and how do we know the kids are being taught properly.
The corroboration of some beliefs with earlier belief systems, might just as easily be celebrated, rather than condemned, for its offering of intercultural credence to those holding analogous beliefs.
The simple reason my friends and acquaintances firmly believe is that they are convinced that they have encountered the power of the Holy Spirit, in its various forms. If that is true, then I would think that you would agree their religion is likely to be the correct one.
Actually I think they simply recognised that their attempt was premature, and that a thinner wedge was required at this juncture. Hence the advent of the "respectful relationships" curriculum, the content of which, based upon a brief perusal of certain guidance materials,appears to be founded upon the perception that perpetration of violence and discrimination, is the sole domain of the heterosexual male, with all other members of the community being the victims....
Fortunately some governments have seen the error of their ways and are abolishing this scheme and replacing it with ones with a more mainsteram focus.
That would surely depend, upon whether or not, injecting theistic religion was the agenda.However there was the school chaplain fiasco which was an attempt to get religion into schools. I think
this has now also disappeared.
appears to be founded upon the perception that perpetration of violence and discrimination, is the sole domain of the heterosexual male, with all other members of the community being the victims.
That would surely depend, upon whether or not, injecting theistic religion was the agenda.
Do we still have hospital, prison and military chaplains?
That observation could be rightly made of many cultures including our own!But if they had been born in another religious culture they would equally think that their religion is likely to be the correct one.
That's irrelevant. I would think that you would agree with my previous statement. Your position would be that we are deluded, which is interesting for someone like me (and my acquaintances ) to considerBut if they had been born in another religious culture they would equally think that their religion is likely to be the correct one.
This is a classic example of how differing sets of beliefs can give rise to alternate interpretations of the same data!Except it wasn't corroboration, just the same stories with different characters and at different times. For example, the great flood.
So rather than confirming the validity of such stories, it just exposes the plagiarism of the authors and the lack of theistic authority to the writings.
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