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Seems ridiculous someone would turn up claiming to be a son of something that created life on this planet. We know what happens to those people nowadays with so much more knowledge about this planet.
 
Wysiwyg said:
Seems ridiculous someone would turn up claiming to be a son of something that created life on this planet. We know what happens to those people nowadays with so much more knowledge about this planet.
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Did someone actually do that?
When?
Where?
 
noirua said:
Jesus Christ sacrificed himself as well...
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To no avail.

But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
Isaiah 53:5

Flesh and blood, the striving for survival, that's all, no one or no thing else.
 
bellenuit said:
A lot of the Old Testament is just a rehash of myths that had being part of other religions before that, that Christians then and now say were false religions.

To name a few:

The story of the Garden of Eden
Heaven and Hell
The virgin birth.
The Holy Trinity (God being in 3 parts)
The Flood (Noah)
Parts of the Book of Proverbs
Angels and Demons and their hierarchy.
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Some (not all) Christians are known to disavow everything external to their chosen flavour of theism.
Personally, I don't believe that any religion can rightly claim a monopoly over truth.
The corroboration of some beliefs with earlier belief systems, might just as easily be celebrated, rather than condemned, for its offering of intercultural credence to those holding analogous beliefs.
 
Wysiwyg said:
To no avail.

But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
Isaiah 53:5

Flesh and blood, the striving for survival, that's all, no one or no thing else.
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But he was burn't for our transgressions,
he died to save humanity,
so our future might bring us peace,
and from his suffering we shall not destroy life.
noirua 1:1
 
Quotations from the Bible or Koran can easily be fabricated as they are but poetry by scribes. You may well find you can do as well as those who wrote all these passages and those who translated them later.
 
cynic said:
The corroboration of some beliefs with earlier belief systems, might just as easily be celebrated, rather than condemned, for its offering of intercultural credence to those holding analogous beliefs.
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I was lectured by a twenty something Chinese National once that we owe them for Western religion. Is there nothing new in the occidental that hasn't already set in the oriental?
 
Wysiwyg said:
Seems ridiculous someone would turn up claiming to be a son of something that created life on this planet. We know what happens to those people nowadays with so much more knowledge about this planet.
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There is still heaps of people making a good living from claims like that, all over the world.

 
The Lord's Prayer in Parliament.

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.

As I said, our preamble is

Almighty God.
 
Tink said:
The Lord's Prayer in Parliament.

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.

As I said, our preamble is

Almighty God.
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And other governments pray to other gods, what’s your point?

That only shows that those who started that tradition were fooled just like those followers in the video I just linked.
 
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