Not yet, but maybe later if the Muslim population increases and they decide to show some muscle.
Better to nip these things in the bud now before there are more of them to argue with.
I don't even think there is a bud to nip, I mean have there been any robberies done by people wearing burkas.
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Oh ey, there's also robberies by people just wearing normal clothes. What should we do?
Nib the bud might need to go further than clothing. Maybe people are bored, need quick cash, can't get no job in this economy etc. etc.
Can't imagine a criminal would sit around planning their crimes then... wait a minute, the burqa is banned, how the heck are we going to pull this off now? Back to the drawing board... heck, back to find legal employment or financial services and investment banking, haha
The point is if you have an accepted item of clothing that conceals identity then there is more chance of people using this clothing for criminal activity, and they don't need to be Muslims.
If people were walking down the street in a balaclava or motorcycle helmet then you would get suspicious because these are not normal places to wear this headgear but if burkas got accepted as normal then the likelihood is that people would use them as cover for crimes because they wouldn't raise suspicions.
Has noco subscribed you to his newsletters? Or are you just bored?
I thought it's obvious that anyone you meet or anyone walking anywhere on the street could potentially carry concealed weapons or could commit a crime at any time. I mean, that's why Big Brother is spending hundreds of millions a year watching over us right?
But there's this thing in our legal system about presumed innocent and individual rights and religious freedom and anti-discrimination. Yea I know, they're all to protect the noisy minority and Muslims but sometime those rights protect the disabled or the gays who happen to be White and Christian too.
The point is if you have an accepted item of clothing that conceals identity then there is more chance of people using this clothing for criminal activity, and they don't need to be Muslims.
If people were walking down the street in a balaclava or motorcycle helmet then you would get suspicious because these are not normal places to wear this headgear but if burkas got accepted as normal then the likelihood is that people would use them as cover for crimes because they wouldn't raise suspicions.
Do you have some statistics on how many crimes are committed with various forms of clothing that hide a person's identity? I'd be interested in knowing how many have been done using a burqa, or is your whole argument that a person MIGHT use a burqa to commit a crime and it's the potential that needs to be legislated against?
Then you'd need to showing that denying people their right to wear a burqa is in the public interest ie that the number of crimes is high enough to warrant deny a basic right to dress as one chooses.
Burkas are not being singled out, as I keep saying this should apply to ANY identity concealing garment.
If I'm bored then I guess you must be too.
Sure anyone can commit a crime and a lot get caught because people recognise them or they get caught on CCTV.
It doesn't take a lot of brains to think that if people can legally cover their faces then it's more likely that that "freedom" will be abused to commit crimes.
Let's take a VC view of the "morality" of the situation.
What are the advantages of wearing a burka ? Sod all, just to make a sexist Muslim man able to repress his woman.
What are the advantages of not wearing a burka ? 1. People are more likely to converse with you and treat you equally if they can recognise you, and 2. people are less likely to commit crimes. 3. no one in the Islamic leadership says wearing a burka is required by Islam, so it's not a religious freedom.
Benefit to society by people not wearing burkas ? Safety and inclusion.
Benefit forgone by the ex wearer ? Very little.
Society gets a benefit by banning these things, and so does the (ex)wearer.
It should be done.
They have to be banned, I was in the supermarket once and a woman (I think) very tall, totally in black slithered down the aisle, I say slithered because she was covered head to toe, you couldn't even see her shoes.
Any children would have been traumatised....and some adults.
Yes, I was taken aback the first time I saw the full burqa... but "slither"?
Traumatise the kids? Maybe it's an early lesson in multiculturalism... yes kid, there are different people with different culture... the world is a very big place.
Actually, I'm beginning to agree with you, lets just get over it and let everyone in.
Why be paranoid? Why not just accept everyone, we have a very big country with a small population.
We should be more welcoming of other cultures.
Let's bring in heaps of Indians, Sri Lankans, Nigerians, Somalians, Syrians, Iranians, just open the border, let's get the population moving.
That will move the economy.lol
Actually I think us old farts, that believe there is something worth protecting, are dinosours.lol
I didn't say "more" welcoming. I seriously believe Australia is, in general, very welcoming and generous. Just hope we keep it that way.
If we want lower prices, better infrastructures, and be a serious contender for world domination (instead of playing deputy), we're not going to do that with 24million people.
A nation is not poor because of over-population, it's poor because it is corrupt and its leadership tax the masses but give it all to the top, and the top invest it in a few mansions and private jets and tax shelters.
Look at France or England in the Middle Ages to WW1. Have less population than this century yes? Beside the Scots and the Irish, no other ethnic groups to blame yes?
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Well let's look just to the north of us Indonesia, 250 million people, invite them here, they would love to come here.
Then we will have a bigger population and be a serious contender in world politics.
I think that is a great idea, all we need do is have an open border with Indonesia, like the EU.
That would work, they could come here, or we could go there.
This is great, open ideas that benefit the poor nations, now we are getting somewhere.
Isn't that what the Liberals are proposing with the ChAFTA?
The point is if you have an accepted item of clothing that conceals identity then there is more chance of people using this clothing for criminal activity, .
If I'm bored then I guess you must be too.
Sure anyone can commit a crime and a lot get caught because people recognise them or they get caught on CCTV.
It doesn't take a lot of brains to think that if people can legally cover their faces then it's more likely that that "freedom" will be abused to commit crimes.
Let's take a VC view of the "morality" of the situation.
What are the advantages of wearing a burka ? Sod all, just to make a sexist Muslim man able to repress his woman.
What are the advantages of not wearing a burka ? 1. People are more likely to converse with you and treat you equally if they can recognise you, and 2. people are less likely to commit crimes. 3. no one in the Islamic leadership says wearing a burka is required by Islam, so it's not a religious freedom.
Benefit to society by people not wearing burkas ? Safety and inclusion.
Benefit forgone by the ex wearer ? Very little.
Society gets a benefit by banning these things, and so does the (ex)wearer.
It should be done.
Actually, I'm beginning to agree with you, lets just get over it and let everyone in.
Why be paranoid? Why not just accept everyone, we have a very big country with a small population.
We should be more welcoming of other cultures.
Let's bring in heaps of Indians, Sri Lankans, Nigerians, Somalians, Syrians, Iranians, just open the border, let's get the population moving.
That will move the economy.lol
Actually I think us old farts, that believe there is something worth protecting, are dinosours.lol
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