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Religion IS crazy!

One would hope so, bunyip;
but I'm afraid the Psychology works differently. That's one thing the Catholic church got right when it emphasized Luke 18:16 and Matthew 19:14. What you implant into kids' minds, especially metaphysical mumbo-jumbo that isn't easily subjected to Logic, will stay with them for a lifetime. It's ingrained in the lowest levels of subconsciousness and becomes the foundation for all subsequent ethical concepts.

Ah yes - I'm well aware of the indoctrination processes of religion, and I'd say that the Catholic church does it better than most.
Two of my kids attended a private Catholic school for a couple of years – we weren’t Catholics but we wanted a private school education for our children, and the Catholic school was the only private school in town. It was unbelievable how that school drummed Catholicism into those little kids from grade 1 onwards, including a weekly session over which the priest presided at the Catholic church next door to the school. Those little kids were much too young to even understand most of the Catholic stuff they were being taught, but I guess it was all part of the ‘get ‘em while they’re young’ indoctrination process.
My wife tells me that when she was being raised a Catholic in Ireland, from an early age the children were steered into various religious rites and ceremonies which they were simply too young to understand.
Another interesting snippet of information from her is the method of recruiting young men and women to train as nuns and priests. From childhood the children were told that God chooses certain ‘special’ people to join the priesthood or convent so they can dedicate their lives to working for God and the church.
The kids were told to listen for God.....if he was ‘talking’ to them it could mean they were one his chosen ones for the special work of the convent or priesthood. The pressure on the kids really cranked up in secondary school. My wife attended a private Catholic girls boarding school from the age of 13, and almost from day one the nuns would regularly take each girl aside individually and ask her if she’d had the call from God yet.
My wife told them that any time she thought she heard God calling her, she turned her radio up loud to drown him out!:)
The nuns were mortified and told her ‘Oh no, don’t do that – you wouldn’t want to miss God’s call, would you’?
Naturally when kids are indoctrinated from early childhood with the belief that God is talking to them through their thoughts and prayers, they come to believe it, much the same as primitive people believed their gods were talking to them through the wind or thunder or whatever.
The long and short of it was that the nuns so successfully implanted in the girls minds that God was talking to them and calling them to convent life, that some of them actually believed it and joined up.
My wife’s brother copped the same treatment from the priests when he attended a private boys school.....they were forever trying to steer the boys towards the priesthood by implanting the idea in their minds that they were one of the chosen ones who God was calling.
It was inevitable that some of them ended up believing it and becoming priests.
 
he must have stopped taking his meds :confused::confused::confused:

[video=youtube_share;B32gXu78Cb8]http://youtu.be/B32gXu78Cb8[/video]

Pastor James David Manning announced plans this week to march against “sodomite cannibals” in Manhattan (a.k.a. “Sodomite City”) because ”” wait for it ”” the gays are planning to turn into “flesh-sucking” homo-zombies and chew off the faces of innocent women and children and eat their poop by 2016!

“God Almighty has given me the revelation that soon, after the court announces that they are to be protected by the Constitution to be sodomites, they’re gonna also start cannibalism,” the concerned pastor said in a recent propaganda video. “Every sodomite, every lesbo, every homo, every fag, every transvestite, every LBGT person ”” by the year 2016 ”” will have participated in some sort of cannibalism!”

Why will this happen? you ask.

Because gay people are possessed by demons, of course.

Manning breaks it down for us, saying: “They are demon-possessed! And they will do it with a smile on their faces! In fact, they will be scourging through and rummaging through the hospital waste looking for human waste. A number of people are going to go missing and only teir bones will show up!”
 
Oh well, Stephen Fry is going to hell, or is he...???

He does make some good points...


Stephen Fry on God | The Meaning Of Life | RTÉ One

 
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Oh well, Stephen Fry is going to hell, or is he...???

He does make some good points...

Yes, he makes some very good points. Most of all he does an excellent job of debunking the myth about how good and merciful and just God is (assuming that he/it exists). He makes it very clear that if you really think about what this god is said to have created, rather than just blindly believing all the Christian claptrap, then the only honest and reasonable conclusion you can reach is that this god must be more than a little screwed up in the head to have created so many horrible things in the world. A good example is the insect whose life cycle involves burrowing into the eyes of children and turning them blind.
Despite my Christian upbringing, I came to the conclusion a long time ago that you have to be selectively blind or downright stupid or both, to be a Christian. Why? Because selective blindness and outright stupidity are the only ways that anyone can judge something or someone by focusing solely on their positives, while completely ignoring their negatives. And that is exactly what Christianity does in its assessment of God – praise the positives and ignore the negatives. It’s a lopsided, highly inaccurate, very naïve and foolish way of judging anyone or anything.

At the start of the interview in the part where Steven Fry says he’d ask God ‘What’s that about – how dare you’?.....
Can anyone tell me what he says about children – I’ve listened to it over and over but I just can’t catch what he’s saying.
 
At the start of the interview in the part where Steven Fry says he’d ask God ‘What’s that about – how dare you’?.....
Can anyone tell me what he says about children – I’ve listened to it over and over but I just can’t catch what he’s saying.

According to the subtitles, which look machine generated, before that he says: "But that is the Odyssey I think. Bone cancer....."

Just click CC on the YouTube video and it should give you closed captions.
 
According to the subtitles, which look machine generated, before that he says: "But that is the Odyssey I think. Bone cancer....."

Just click CC on the YouTube video and it should give you closed captions.

Thanks bellenuit - yeh I'm pretty sure he says 'bone cancer'.

I liked his last sentence too - it's pretty much the way I felt , and still do all these decades later, once I dismissed all this God business as a con that has absolutely no supporting evidence.
 
Members of the catholic church have done some good work, But that doesn't make the catholic church as an institution a force for good, Because it's doctrine and actions at an institutional level has been very damaging, and none of the good works relied on the churches supernatural nonsense.

Here are Steven Fry's views on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1xvdZMC10
 
Happy Valentine’s Day Everyone. Hope you are all well vaccinated.


Egyptian Cleric Hazem Shuman Warns Muslim Youth of the Upcoming Valentine's Day:
It's More Dangerous than AIDS, Ebola, and Cholera
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The earth does not spin on its axis but is fixed while the sun revolves around the earth.

In case you don’t think this statement is correct listen to the Saudi preacher in the following video. He demonstrates that the above is true based on logical reasoning and evidence provided in the Holy Koran.

The Minister for Education should immediately order the re-writing of the science text books used in our schools. Otherwise we could be causing offence to pupils of the Islamic faith by trying to make them believe that the earth spins on its axis and revolves around the sun.

 
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The earth does not spin on its axis but is fixed while the sun revolves around the earth.

In case you don’t think this statement is correct listen to the Saudi preacher in the following video. He demonstrates that the above is true based on logical reasoning and evidence provided in the Holy Koran.

The Minister for Education should immediately order the re-writing of the science text books used in our schools. Otherwise we could be causing offence to pupils of the Islamic faith by trying to make them believe that the earth spins on its axis and revolves around the sun.



There is a very simple test he could do right here on earth to show that the earth rotates.

 
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There is a very simple test he could do right here on earth to show that the earth rotates.

Naaa… that’s just one of those Western theories whereas everything in the Quran is the word of Allah and is true.

The Fixed Earth.jpg

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150131/ml--iraq-libraries_in_danger-62581f4dca.html
BAGHDAD (AP) ”” When Islamic State group militants invaded the Central Library of Mosul earlier this month, they were on a mission to destroy a familiar enemy: other people's ideas.
Residents say the extremists smashed the locks that had protected the biggest repository of learning in the northern Iraq town, and loaded around 2,000 books ”” including children's stories, poetry, philosophy and tomes on sports, health, culture and science ”” into six pickup trucks.

They left only Islamic texts. The rest?

"These books promote infidelity and call for disobeying Allah. So they will be burned,"

They are following in the illustrious footsteps of the caliph Umar, who is supposed to have said when ordering the ancient, fabled library of Alexandria to be burned: “If the books agree with the Qur’an, they are superfluous. If they disagree with it, they are heretical.”


What a wonderful state of enlightenment we have to look forward to once the whole world has been subjugated to Sharia Law.

Is religion crazy or what …..?
 
So, God is a female....


Catholic Priest Dies for 48 Minutes, Comes Back to Life and Claims God Is Female

A Catholic priest from Massachusetts was officially dead for more than 48 minutes before medics were able to miraculously re-start his heart. During that time, Father John Micheal O’neal claims he went to heaven and met God, which he describes as a warm and comforting motherly figure.

“Her presence was both overwhelming and comforting” states the Catholic priest. “She had a soft and soothing voice and her presence was as reassuring as a mother’s embrace. The fact that God is a Holy Mother instead of a Holy Father doesn’t disturb me, she is everything I hoped she would be and even more!”

http://netloid.com/news/catholic-priest-dies-for-48-minutes-comes-back-to-life-and-claims-god-is-female
 
Followers of Indian guru Ram Rahim break silence about mass castration

"His hold over followers was so powerful he convinced up to 400 followers to have their testicles removed because by doing so they would be able to speak directly to God"

At least this kind of craziness is ‘self-correcting’ by removing their ability to reproduce and thereby multiply their madness.

But a religion which combines craziness with unrestrained fertility is something to worry about.
 
Pope allows homeless man to be buried in Vatican

I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry about this story:


Pope Francis has taken his embrace of homeless people a step further by allowing a man who had slept rough in St Peter's Square to be buried inside the Vatican”

Willy Herteleer, who is thought to have been Belgian, had been well known for years around St Peter's Square, sleeping rough and begging from passers-by.

….. the Pope, who has made concern for the poor and disenfranchised a keynote of his papacy, consented to him being buried in the Teutonic Cemetery, in the shadow of St Peter's Basilica.


Maybe if the poor beggar had been embraced by some good samaritan type care from the Vatican while he was still alive they might not have needed to bury him just yet.
 
Pope allows homeless man to be buried in Vatican

I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry about this story:


Pope Francis has taken his embrace of homeless people a step further by allowing a man who had slept rough in St Peter's Square to be buried inside the Vatican”

Willy Herteleer, who is thought to have been Belgian, had been well known for years around St Peter's Square, sleeping rough and begging from passers-by.

….. the Pope, who has made concern for the poor and disenfranchised a keynote of his papacy, consented to him being buried in the Teutonic Cemetery, in the shadow of St Peter's Basilica.


Maybe if the poor beggar had been embraced by some good samaritan type care from the Vatican while he was still alive they might not have needed to bury him just yet.
The pope should take his concern for the poor to a new level by working to get rid of the ludicrous policy his church has on contraception. This outdated policy causes immense suffering and poverty among hundreds of millions of Catholics in third world countries by encouraging uncontrolled breeding.
The RCC could turn this situation around by directing some of its vast financial resources towards education programs promoting contraception as beneficial and responsible behavior, not a sin, and by freely providing cheap contraceptives such as condoms.
They could take it a step further by setting up free sterilization clinics in poor countries, staffed by volunteer health professionals performing vasectomies and tubal ligations, similar to the organizations set up by men like Fred Hollows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hollows and Mark Loane http://www.theaustralian.com.au/lif...azine/mark-loane/story-e6frg8h6-1111114101544

The poverty situation could be greatly alleviated in poor predominately Catholic countries if Catholic men and women were encouraged to undergo sterilization after having say two or three children.
 
10-year-old unable to recite Quran made to do 170 pushups, lands in hospital


BAREILLY: In an incident that has shocked people in the city, a 10-year-old boy was made to do 170 push ups by a maulvi in a local madarsa because the child was unable to recite a chapter of the Quran.

Not satisfied with the punishment he had meted out, the maulvi also reportedly thrashed the boy with a stick and sat on his chest, angrily pulling at his hair. The distressed boy, unable to take this inhuman treatment any more, fainted and had to be rushed to hospital in a critical condition.

 
Ex-Muslim author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali calls for reform of Islam

THERE was a time when author and activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali believed it all.

She believed that, according to Islam, the infidel should die, that the Koran is infallible, that those who violated sharia law ”” thieves, gays, adulterers ”” deserved to be stoned to death or beheaded, as they were each Friday in a public gathering place she and her brother called “Chop-Chop Square.”

Today, she is that rare thing: a public intellectual who, despite death threats and charges of bigotry, calls for an end to Islam ”” not just as the faithful know it, but as we in the West think we know it.

“The assumption is that, in Islam, there are a few rotten apples, not the entire basket,” Ali tells The New York Post.

“I’m saying it’s the entire basket.”

In her book, Heretic, Ali argues for a complete reformation of Islam, akin to the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century. Though her own education led her to reject Islam and declare herself an atheist, she believes that for the world’s 1.6 billion Muslims, there must be another way.

“If you are a child brought up to believe that Islam is a source of morality” ”” as she was, in Africa and Saudi Arabia ”” “the Muslim framework presents you with the Koran and the hijab. I don’t want to be cruel and say, ‘You grow up and you snap out of it.’ But maybe we who have snapped out of it have not done our best to appeal to those still in it,” she says.


A ‘Useless’ Label

In Heretic, Ali says there are three kinds of Muslims. There are the violent, the reformers, and what she believes is the largest group ”” those who want to practice as they see fit and live peaceably but do not challenge the Koran, the Muslim world’s treatment of women and the LGBT community, or terrorist attacks committed in the name of Islam.

Yet she refuses to label this group as moderate. She believes they have done nothing to deserve it. “I’ve never believed in the word,” Ali says. “It’s totally useless. I think we’re in a time now where we demand answers from Muslims and say, ‘Whose side are you on?’ ”

 
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