"Quotes" to trade by!

[Realist]

But " jump out when the price is falling " --- well traders have a thing called a STOP LOSS and this could be applied by the most nieve investor :

Only a naieve 'investor' would use stop losses.

A smart investor may never infact look at the stock price...

As for " brokerage, taxes and costs etc " get a decent accountant , thats his job , yours is to make a profit --- not lame excuses for failing to act .

Bahh, accountants use the same tax rules as anyone else. Stupid comment.

Can not " compound " ? --- utter rubbish , profits are added to the BANK enabling the trades to grow in position size over time .

You miss the point, what you pay in tax, Buffet lets it compound for him, not the government.

Your companies are fairly valued ? NO NO NO --- NOT YOUR COMPANIES ---the directors companies

My companies, I can vote directors out if I want (as long as other shareholders help if my share holding is small)

If you think you can make more money by " holding + divs " I,ve been long/short OXR since late 2005 , I just paid 3c div (short ) peanuts, compared to what these investers are losing --- if you doubt this just check my posts in the OXR thread -- even a school kid can see this stock is in a severe down tread ( my grandkids can ) .

OXR is not investment quality and never was.

 

[wayneL]

Only a naieve 'investor' would use stop losses.

A smart investor may never infact look at the stock price...



Bahh, accountants use the same tax rules as anyone else. Stupid comment.



You miss the point, what you pay in tax, Buffet lets it compound for him, not the government.



My companies, I can vote directors out if I want (as long as other shareholders help if my share holding is small)



OXR is not investment quality and never was.

:sleeping:

 

[coyotte]

Realist:

Just have to agree to disagree !


Used to feel a bit guilty about selling , when the price of a stock was obvisually falling , part of the reason I changed to CFDs --- but if most investers hold the same view as you , well I would have no compasion for them now

Cheers

 

[Realist]

Realist:

Just have to agree to disagree !


Used to feel a bit guilty about selling , when the price of a stock was obvisually falling , part of the reason I changed to CFDs --- but if most investers hold the same view as you , well I would have no compasion for them now

Cheers

You should not have any compassion for anyone on the stockmarket.

You traders profit from other traders losses. :

 

[dr00]

Realist:

Just have to agree to disagree !


Used to feel a bit guilty about selling , when the price of a stock was obvisually falling , part of the reason I changed to CFDs --- but if most investers hold the same view as you , well I would have no compasion for them now

Cheers

you have no compassion for him because he doesnt agree with you?

 

[wayneL]

You traders profit from other traders losses. :

This is one of the greatest phallacies in trading.

 

[Realist]

This is one of the greatest phallacies in trading.

Okay what about trading the SPI?

 

[wayneL]

Okay what about trading the SPI?

Contracts in SPI may be part of an overall strategy. An investor may lose money in the futures section of the strategy, yet be a net winner overall.

eg SPI may be being used as a hedge, partial hedge, or even part of an arb.

Cheers

 

[Realist]

Contracts in SPI may be part of an overall strategy. An investor may lose money in the futures section of the strategy, yet be a net winner overall.

eg SPI may be being used as a hedge, partial hedge, or even part of an arb.

Cheers

But for a trader to profit on the SPI another trader must lose money!

 

[wayneL]

But for a trader to profit on the SPI another trader must lose money!

Contracts in SPI may be part of an overall strategy. An investor may lose money in the futures section of the strategy, yet be a net winner overall.

eg SPI may be being used as a hedge, partial hedge, or even part of an arb.

 

[Duckman#72]

I dislike gAyFL, but I will be supporting anyone playing any team from Adelaide from now on!!

You crack me up realist.

It doesn't surprise me that you dislike AFL - it is a game of full of intricacies, wisdom, skill, balance and deftness. Qualities that we rarely see in your posts.

Why must you mock what you do not understand?

I am also guessing you prefer noughts and crosses over chess - would I be correct?

(BTW sorry Tech but I hope WC get up this weekend)

Duckman

 

[Realist]

So that is a YES.

But with a subclause explaining they can lose and win (if they've invested elsewhere as well)...

 

[dr00]

intricacies, wisdom, skill, balance and deftness in afl? :screwy:

 

[Realist]

You crack me up realist.

It doesn't surprise me that you dislike AFL - it is a game of full of intricacies, wisdom, skill, balance and deftness. Qualities that we rarely see in your posts.

Why must you mock what you do not understand?

I am also guessing you prefer noughts and crosses over chess - would I be correct?

(BTW sorry Tech but I hope WC get up this weekend)

Duckman

No I much prefer chess, and Rugby Union - a far more advanced international game than aerial ping-pong for skinny guys in tight shorts from the WEstern part of one empty continent.

I went to a gAyFL game recently - Swans versus someone, can't even remember who but they were cr*p - I was in the private box at Homebush, sitting near Dicko and Tony Squires. Anyway I was amazed at how many players there are, how many umpires, and how many water boys. The game had barely kicked off before water boys were running onto the field to give those poofs a drink.

It is a soft sport, without proper tackling, you can't even pass the ball, or run with it, it is quite ridiculous.

It should be banned in NSW.

 

[wayneL]

So that is a YES.

But with a subclause explaining they can lose and win (if they've invested elsewhere as well)...

No.

A ratioed option combo is another example (synthetic straddle) where the futures section may lose but the strategy may win overall.

 

[professor_frink]

It doesn't surprise me that you dislike AFL - it is a game of full of intricacies, wisdom, skill, balance and deftness. Qualities that we rarely see in your posts.

Hey Duckman,

I tried watching some VFL on Friday night, got through the first quarter before turning it off(hey at least I tried to watch it!).

Can't say I saw much in the way of qualities you just described though. They can kick the hell out of the ball I'll give them that.

The rest however was like watching an under 6's soccer match.

 

[juddy]

No I much prefer chess, and Rugby Union - a far more advanced international game than aerial ping-pong for skinny guys in tight shorts from the WEstern part of one empty continent.

I went to a gAyFL game recently - Swans versus someone, can't even remember who but they were cr*p - I was in the private box at Homebush, sitting near Dicko and Tony Squires. Anyway I was amazed at how many players there are, how many umpires, and how many water boys. The game had barely kicked off before water boys were running onto the field to give those poofs a drink.

It is a soft sport, without proper tackling, you can't even pass the ball, or run with it, it is quite ridiculous.

It should be banned in NSW.

not bad for a bunch of "poofs"...


AUSTRALIA’S MOST DANGEROUS SPORTS REVEALED IN NEW RESEARCH REPORT BY MEDIBANK PRIVATE
7 July 2006


It’s official – Aussie Rules is the nation’s most injury-prone sport; Australians are ‘loners’ rather than team players when its comes to sports; approximately 5.2 million people are expected to be injured through exercise this year; ACT residents are the fittest; Tasmanians are the heaviest; and

These are just a few of the revelations to emerge from the Medibank Private Safe Sports Report 2006 launched today.

The report combines independent research into Medibank Private’s customer base, with Australian exercise participation data, and academic modelling and commentary by leading sports physician, Dr Peter Larkins.

Medibank Private’s Managing Director George Savvides explained that the 2006 report contains statistics about the incidence of sports-related injuries and highlights the physical, economic and emotional ‘costs’ of injury.

“Our intention is not to scare people off exercise, but rather to reinforce the importance of injury prevention techniques and private health insurance regardless of whether you’re part of a team, exercise alone, or have a social ‘hit’ or ‘kick’ with mates,” he said.

“Accidents can still occur even when you take proactive precautionary measures, and for Australians without private health cover, this can mean large medical bills, long waiting periods and huge additional stress on top of the injury set-back.”

According to the Medibank Private Safe Sports Report 2006, the top 10 most injury-prone sports (based on patient presentations to Australian hospital emergency departments and general medical practices) are:
1. Australian Rules Football
2. Basketball
3. Netball
4. Running
5. Tennis
6. Cricket
7. Soccer
8. Aerobics
9. Rugby League
10. Rugby Union


http://www.medibank.com.au/aboutus/pressreleases_display.asp?id=252

 

[wayneL]

Hey Duckman,

I tried watching some VFL on Friday night, got through the first quarter before turning it off(hey at least I tried to watch it!).

Can't say I saw much in the way of qualities you just described though. They can kick the hell out of the ball I'll give them that.

The rest however was like watching an under 6's soccer match.

Gotta agree here...

***furiously digging****

 

[barney]

C'mon now you lads....
QUOTE:
"Appreciation comes through knowledge" ..........If you don't like AFL its probably cause you don't know the rules!! I am a N.S.W.elshman, Grew up with League......... Love a good game of Rugby............. Lost days of sleep watching the world cup Soccer.........and think AFL is brillaint (cause I took the time to learn the rules!) ....AFL is a bit like "trading"; you have to know "the rules"........I'm still learning the rules of "trading", but .........the more "rules" I understand , the better it gets!!!

PS Now don't be mean, but I even like Netball!!!!(might have something to do with all those long legs )

 

[coyotte]

you have no compassion for him because he doesnt agree with you?

Quite the opposite :

I know realise that as far as the INVESTER is concerned he/she is getting a bargain

As I stated earlier in this thread, I have never really understood the mindset of a invester , now through this forum it is becoming more clear .

You have two opposing approachs which are required to drive the MARKET .


Cheers