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Queensland election Jan 31 2015

We know the Qld election campaign is one of the most boring ever when pretty much all the ABC can come up with on PM this evening in discussing it is comparing policies re removal of crocs!:rolleyes:
 
You lucky buggers in Queensland. I'm reliably informed that the day after your upcoming election you'll be told who's been donating to your political parties for the last year and a half. Good luck with your 'due diligence'.
 
You lucky buggers in Queensland. I'm reliably informed that the day after your upcoming election you'll be told who's been donating to your political parties for the last year and a half. Good luck with your 'due diligence'.

Yes it's been a cleansing govt, where much of the reform has been devolved to the Peterson era. Once again we have the Australian public anxious for the next instalment of WTF.
 
You lucky buggers in Queensland. I'm reliably informed that the day after your upcoming election you'll be told who's been donating to your political parties for the last year and a half. Good luck with your 'due diligence'.
Threatening legal action against Alan Jones too? Pretty sure he has been all over the issue of non-disclosure of donations for the Acland (sp?) mine. It all looks very convenient when put together. Very interesting side story.... won't affect the election result, of course, but doesn't endear Newman with his constituents in a close race.

I'm still glad this election campaign hasn't been over the top. So far. Both Labor (probably more so) and the LNP look like a rabble to me and probably don't have much of any real value to say.

It's like choosing between the unknown inexperienced barely-a-major-party and the incompetent, deceitful incumbents.
 
Threatening legal action against Alan Jones too? Pretty sure he has been all over the issue of non-disclosure of donations for the Acland (sp?) mine. It all looks very convenient when put together. Very interesting side story.... won't affect the election result, of course, but doesn't endear Newman with his constituents in a close race.

I'm still glad this election campaign hasn't been over the top. So far. Both Labor (probably more so) and the LNP look like a rabble to me and probably don't have much of any real value to say.

It's like choosing between the unknown inexperienced barely-a-major-party and the incompetent, deceitful incumbents.

I just hope a future govt starts an ICAC style commission and gaols each and everyone of the shonks who have taken the state down the road of cronyism and corruption. Don't care what the party is ....just send them to the klink and strip them of any entitlements and proceeds of their crimes.

We are the laughing stock of Oz once again and with the fizzog Prime Minister and his prolapsing face, we aren't fairing much better on the world stage either, if comments I'm getting from penpals overseas is anything to go by.
 
Threatening legal action against Alan Jones too? Pretty sure he has been all over the issue of non-disclosure of donations for the Acland (sp?) mine. It all looks very convenient when put together. Very interesting side story.... won't affect the election result, of course, but doesn't endear Newman with his constituents in a close race.

I'm still glad this election campaign hasn't been over the top. So far. Both Labor (probably more so) and the LNP look like a rabble to me and probably don't have much of any real value to say.

It's like choosing between the unknown inexperienced barely-a-major-party and the incompetent, deceitful incumbents.

I think he's actually commenced legal action against Alan Jones. Campbell Newman may want to keep in mind that defamation actions can be a double edged sword. Hopefully Alan Jones has the resources to bury him in discovery motions.
 
I would never would have thought the LNP was so on the nose.

Newman's legal action certainly is a throw back to the Joh Bjelke-Petersen days in any other state it would be met with scorn

Queensland election 2015: Latest Newspoll reveals swing up to 13 per cent in key LNP seats
A swing of up to 13 per cent in key Liberal National Party-held seats in Queensland has been revealed in the latest Newspoll survey.

The poll of 608 voters, published in today's Australian newspaper, was taken in the electorates of Cairns, in the far north, Ipswich West, 40km outside of Brisbane, and Keppel, near Rockhampton, earlier this week.

The poll found in those three seats, Labor's primary vote had jumped 16 points to 47 per cent, with the LNP's vote collapsing more than eight points to 43.5 per cent.

On a two-party preferred basis, Labor led the LNP 56 per cent to 44 per cent - a swing of 13 per cent.

The Australian said if the support remained unchanged until election day, Ipswich West, held on a margin of 7.2 per cent and Keppel, held on 6.4 per cent, would almost certainly fall to Labor.

Cairns, on 8.9 per cent, would be a tight contest.

Forty-six per cent of people said Opposition Leader Annastacia Palaszczuk would make the better premier, compared to Campbell Newman, who polled 36 per cent.

When asked about Mr Newman's performance as Premier, 60 per cent said they were dissatisfied and 32 per cent were satisfied.

ABC news
 
I would never would have thought the LNP was so on the nose.

I can't recall either of the two major parties, the party itself as distinct from any particular state or federal government as such, being as on the nose as the Coalition is right now. Even their mainstream media supporters seem to be starting to have doubts. :2twocents
 
I think he's actually commenced legal action against Alan Jones. Campbell Newman may want to keep in mind that defamation actions can be a double edged sword.

He might have also forgotten which state he's in. The Tasmanian state government has some rather draconian proposals regarding defamation. I take this as a hint that the LNP may well have similar thoughts for Qld if re-elected.

Somewhere along the line, the LNP seems to have lost that rather key bit about personal freedom. At least Labor still sort-of represents workers at least to some extent and the Greens are still standing up for the environment. :2twocents
 
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Somewhere along the line, the LNP seems to have lost that rather key bit about personal freedom. At least Labor still sort-of represents workers at least to some extent and the Greens are still standing up for the environment. :2twocents

This is the bit that turned me off with the current direction of the libs. There is just no way I could vote for the current labor team either as it would be a bigger step backwards. Lets face it they have nothing.

At minimum, opening trade with other nations has improved under libs and steps have been taken to improve small business.
Workers entitlements is where they fall down. I understand where they are coming from, that more people will be employed. But some business will take advantage and exploit workers. Then labor will go to far the other way.
 
Annastacia Palaszczuk must have been a Real Estate Agent or a lawyer






It's pure and it is simple - a lease is the same as a sale.
 
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It's pure and it is simple - a lease is the same as a sale.

I'm not sure what specific lease / sale is being referred to, but in many cases it is indeed the same.

The Qld government is proposing leases as long as 99 years for assets with a lifespan of substantially less than that. In practice, it's a sale given that at the end of the lease assets will most likely no longer physically exist or, if they are still in existence, will be way beyond serviceable condition and worth only their scrap material value.

A lease for 10 years, with the owner responsible for major maintenance and whoever takes the lease just operating it, is indeed a lease. But if it's for 99 years and involves handing over responsibility for major maintenance and ongoing development then it's a sale in practice.

If I lease you my house until 2114, with you being fully responsible for all maintenance and even future development of the property, then it's a sale in practice. I'll be dead by the time it expires, and you'll most likely be handing back something that bears little resemblance to what I currently have. There's no chance that I'll ever have effective control over that house again.

In SA they did some 99 year leases on assets in the power industry that will certainly be of no ongoing use well before the 99 years is up. So someone has taken a 99 year lease, will run it for the remaining useful life (and that's not too long in some specific cases) then leave it sitting there for the next 60 - 80 years and hand it back to government for demolition (unless it physically falls down first of its' own accord, and that's certainly plausible over that length of time). Technically that's a lease, but it may as well be a sale in practice.

Make it a 10 year lease if they really do want to lease things. 99 years is a sale in all practical regards apart from the legal technicalities.:2twocents
 
I like how both the Labor Party and the LNP reckon the biggest issue on the agenda is jobs.....I reckon they are wrong:

the biggest thing Queenslanders want is probably what most Australians want ...they want to have a breather from govt intrusion and threats in every facet of their lives. I don't know how we managed to handover our basic self determination to the public service, but we managed it. Even our supposed private enterprise has to have public service rules instead of innovative ones ... while communist economies like China outflank us!

Newman and the LNP won't win the election based on governance, the LNP will win based on status quo and the vacuous leadership of the parliamentary Labor party. Queenslanders don't like the idea of civil unions for homosexuals and that will turn against Labor. Queensland is a vessel for those that don't want Sydney centric finance based social fabrics and Melbourne centric AFL social fabrics, they just want to be left alone and allowed to potter along doing hedonistic things and follow the sun.
 
I like how both the Labor Party and the LNP reckon the biggest issue on the agenda is jobs.....I reckon they are wrong:

the biggest thing Queenslanders want is probably what most Australians want ...they want to have a breather from govt intrusion and threats in every facet of their lives. I don't know how we managed to handover our basic self determination to the public service, but we managed it. Even our supposed private enterprise has to have public service rules instead of innovative ones ... while communist economies like China outflank us!

Newman and the LNP won't win the election based on governance, the LNP will win based on status quo and the vacuous leadership of the parliamentary Labor party. Queenslanders don't like the idea of civil unions for homosexuals and that will turn against Labor. Queensland is a vessel for those that don't want Sydney centric finance based social fabrics and Melbourne centric AFL social fabrics, they just want to be left alone and allowed to potter along doing hedonistic things and follow the sun.
That's about the same way Western Australians think.
Maybe, we should secede together. Elect a Triumvirate to govern us and live happily ever after.
Triumvirate could be made up of Clive P, Gina R, and Andrew "Twiggy" F. :D

And never ever bother with Daylight Saving, faded curtains, or unhappy cows :p:
 
That's about the same way Western Australians think.
Maybe, we should secede together. Elect a Triumvirate to govern us and live happily ever after.
Triumvirate could be made up of Clive P, Gina R, and Andrew "Twiggy" F. :D

And never ever bother with Daylight Saving, faded curtains, or unhappy cows :p:


I'm thinking 9 month prorogues with three month sessions? I reckon the that's enough time to irritate the electorate?
 
Sportsbet odds narrow a little to Labor $1.14 vs LNP $5.00. Campbell Newman has also cancelled his campaign tour of north Queensland to fly back to Brisbane.

A whiff of panic in the LNP camp ?
 
I'm thinking 9 month prorogues with three month sessions? I reckon the that's enough time to irritate the electorate?

Sounds fair enough, Tisme ;)
But then, we should pay them also like Casual Employess who work only a quarter shift, not the current four-times AFTE or more. ... and revoke the gold cards and post-employment perks! 9% Super, like every working Aussie, and that's it! :2twocents
 
Sportsbet odds narrow a little to Labor $1.14 vs LNP $5.00. Campbell Newman has also cancelled his campaign tour of north Queensland to fly back to Brisbane.

A whiff of panic in the LNP camp ?

More like a white knuckle ride now that Newman has realised Ashgrove will be lost !
 
Palaszczuk's minders better let her know that the GST rate is 10% not "pass"

(and she want's to be Premier of QLD :confused::confused:)
 
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