Propaganda in movies and media

[2020hindsight]

We didn't lose the war in Vietnam, that is an insult to all who fought there, the US WITHDREW. Everytime the NVA crossed into South Vietnam they where beaten and what was left retreated back into Laos or over DMZ. That is just left propaganda to say that the US lost in Vietnam.

Ok - for your beneft superfly, I'll reword that then ....

a) we were told that if we WITHDREW from Vietnam there would be a domino to the next country and the next and so on.
b) we withdrew
c) there was no domino follow on
d) the logic of the domino theory was incorrect

 

[2020hindsight]

btw, I could add that it's appropriate that you suggest that we didn't lose in Vietnam - on a thread titled "propaganda"

 

[Superfly]

btw, I could add that it's appropriate that you suggest that we didn't lose in Vietnam - on a thread titled "propaganda"

Not suggesting, am stating that the US did NOT lose the vietnam war, the US withdrew and what your saying 20/20 is an insult.


Again...A big reason why the left wants the US out of Iraq, so that they can say it's another defeat for the US military... rah rah rah ... lost in Vietnam, lost in Iraq etc etc etc...

Its hard to win a war with no troops on the ground, which is exactly what the left wants in Iraq.

 

[juw177]

the US did NOT lose the vietnam war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tet_Offensive

 

[Superfly]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tet_Offensive

???? The TET offensive was crushed. It was a huge military defeat for the communists...

...but would it did mark due to media coverage was mark the beginning of end of popular support for the war in Vietnam in the US.

 

[Superfly]

Your point is ?

 

[juw177]

Look out guys, Superfly is going to take down all our screen names and send it to the CIA so they can keep on silencing dissidents.

 

[Superfly]

So what's your point about the TET offensive ?

Any other North Vietnamise military defeats you want to post links to...

If your looking for North Vietnamise victories Juw, try the French defeat at Dien Bein Phu in 1954, which was solely due to the terrible position the French located the Dien Bein Phu base in, not any smart military manoeuvres or fighting by North Vietnamise units.

 

[juw177]

The Tet Offensive was a major defeat for the US occupiers and only the brainwashed will disagree.

 

[Superfly]

The Tet Offensive was a major defeat for the US occupiers and only the brainwashed will disagree.

Hmmm must be shift change at the Chinese embassy and night shift Juw177 posting now, dayshift Juw177 has knocked off... it must be because even Juw177 could not post something so absolutely wrong...

Ok Juw... "prove it"... the TET offensive is well documented, one google should do it Juw...

 

[Superfly]

The Tet Offensive was a major defeat for the US occupiers and only the brainwashed will disagree.

Ahhh also Juw177, the US were NOT occupiers... South Vietnam was facing aggression for the communist North and requested US help. South Vietnam was a sovereign nation being aided by the west.

 

[juw177]

Ahhh also Juw177, the US were NOT occupiers... South Vietnam was facing aggression for the communist North and requested US help. South Vietnam was a sovereign nation being aided by the west.

You are a classic example of the brainwashed american sheep.

The aggression in Vietnam was provoked by the US so they have an excuse to occupy the country. Tet Offensive was the turning point of the war. Americans got their ass kicked in Vietnam. Casualties don't show who won and lost.

 

[wayneL]

Re Vietnam ==>> The Gulf of Tonkin Incident

 

[robert toms]

As far as I can remember North and South Vietnam were separated along the 17th parallel,in a Geneva convention, after the French were defeated in 1954.A proviso of this separation was that re-unification elections were to be held in 1956.As they were going to lose any elections South Vietnam renigged on the election commitment.
This was the seed of the Civil War in Vietnam.
Did Mugabe learn from Vietnam that is far better to hold a rigged election,than refuse to take part in an election ? hee hee

 

[Superfly]

You are a classic example of the brainwashed american sheep.

The aggression in Vietnam was provoked by the US so they have an excuse to occupy the country. Tet Offensive was the turning point of the war. Americans got their ass kicked in Vietnam. Casualties don't show who won and lost.

This is exactly what the type of left wing crap that will be heard if troops are withdrawn from Iraq, just as the were from Vietnam.

US got their arses kicked ?... whenever your ready you can start posting something to back that statemnent up...I'm all ears ...

Oh yeh and China did have their arses kicked by US / Australian forces in North Korea, and kicked well.

PLR >> good for killing unarmed protestors and Tibetins, not much else...

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Hanoi Jane opens a new play in New York. My contacts in the US tell me a few Vietnam Vets have bought tickets for the show.

It should be funny.

http://nymag.com/arts/theater/features/54631/

gg

 

[rederob]

What Russian TV presents to their viewers today about the "special operation":

 

[sptrawler]

What Russian TV presents to their viewers today about the "special operation":

Different subject matter, but it shows that Russia's question time in parliament, is a platform for loony politicians same as ours. ?

 

[rederob]

Different subject matter, but it shows that Russia's question time in parliament, is a platform for loony politicians same as ours. ?

Nope.
I can see why you are confused about the media when you think a Russian daytime TV show is actually the Duma.

 

[sptrawler]

Nope.
I can see why you are confused about the media when you think a Russian daytime TV show is actually the Duma.
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Maybe I don't watch as much daytime t.v, as obviously some do. ?

Or are you suggesting our parliamentary question time, is unlike a daytime t.v show portraying idiotic behaviour? if so I can understand your confusion, as to sensible debate.
The media has just made the line between stupid infantile political behaviour, pantomime and news reporting just that more more difficult to differentiate.