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A month ago this was a good break out. Now its looking like it has ran out of puff.

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Looking for a short entry.
 
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Oil's smokin'!:eek:

If US go to war in Syria, i can see this only being the beginning. However, I cant see how the US could fund going to war in Syria with so much debt and with the debt ceiling forecasted to be met in November (if i recall correctly). I think its all a bit of a frantic rush to get out of equities (which were over-priced) and into some commodities, which were under-priced IMO. I would have loved to get on the oil bandwagon but the oil etf in australia (OOO) has bugger all liquidity :banghead: Ill be watching from the sidelines.
 
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I believe we will see volatility in the oil market in the short run. Syria is not a major oil producer. If oil go up it will be very short term spike. It is time to study development in oil market during next six months.
 
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I believe oil will trade below $100 sooner than later due to new development. Consumer purchase power will increase due to less energy cost and some sectors in global markets will benefit lot in the coming quarters.

My ideas are not a recommendation to either buy or sell any security, commodity or currency. Please do your own research prior to making any investment decisions.
 
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Move over, Russia: U.S. is now the world’s biggest oil and gas producer

The U.S. will end 2013 as the world’s largest producer of petroleum and natural gas, surpassing Russia and Saudi Arabia, the Energy Information Administration said Friday.

The EIA estimated combined U.S. petroleum and gas production this year will hit 50 quadrillion British thermal units, or 25 million barrels of oil equivalent a day, outproducing Russia by 5 quadrillion Btu.

Petroleum production includes crude oil, natural gas liquids, condensates, and biofuels.

U.S. and Russian energy production over the past two years have been roughly equivalent. Since 2008, U.S. petroleum production has increased 7 quadrillion Btu, with “dramatic” growth in Texas and North Dakota, the EIA said.



http://blogs.marketwatch.com/energy-ticker/2013/10/04/move-over-russia-u-s-is-now-the-worlds-biggest-oil-gas-producer/
 
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Oil prices may stay $80- $100 in the coming years. Not only USA but also Iran too will increase oil production. Some heavy industries in the USA and Europe should benefit lot and there may investment opportunities in some areas. Global economy will expand from 2015 onwards and USD dollar may start their next major rally during next 18 months.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...-100-a-second-day-as-u-s-stockpiles-gain.html

WTI Oil Trades Below $100 a Second Day as U.S. Stockpiles Gain

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Oil prices may stay $80- $100 in the coming years. Not only USA but also Iran too will increase oil production. Some heavy industries in the USA and Europe should benefit lot and there may investment opportunities in some areas. Global economy will expand from 2015 onwards and USD dollar may start their next major rally during next 18 months.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...-100-a-second-day-as-u-s-stockpiles-gain.html

WTI Oil Trades Below $100 a Second Day as U.S. Stockpiles Gain

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I believe you and a few others on here are right. The target is around $90/barrel, checkout this chart from a broker in the US.

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Why are your charts not up to date?

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The U.S. could surpass Russia and Saudi Arabia as the world’s top oil producer by 2015 due to booming output from shale. It is expected to produce large scale shale gas production by the 2020s to boost the UK’s energy security. I believe oil could stay below $100 level in 2014 and it could go down to around $80 dollar Pb.

My ideas are not a recommendation to either buy or sell any security, commodity or currency. Please do your own research prior to making any investment decisions.
 
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An interesting point is that if the USA is excluded, then total oil production of the rest of the world is actually falling slightly. There are individual countries with rising output and others with significant falls, but collectively they're going down (albeit very slightly) if the US is taken out of the picture.

Also, apart from a modest amount of spare capacity, every country except Saudi Arabia is running at or very close to capacity so there isn't a lot to spare.

So what happens in the US is rather critical to oil markets and prices it would seem. The notable point about the US is, of course, that the rising production is coming from shale rather than more conventional sources. That plus it's a relatively stable country and so on.

This is my own research from various sources. Use at your own risk etc.:2twocents
 
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An interesting point is that if the USA is excluded, then total oil production of the rest of the world is actually falling slightly. There are individual countries with rising output and others with significant falls, but collectively they're going down (albeit very slightly) if the US is taken out of the picture.

Also, apart from a modest amount of spare capacity, every country except Saudi Arabia is running at or very close to capacity so there isn't a lot to spare.

So what happens in the US is rather critical to oil markets and prices it would seem. The notable point about the US is, of course, that the rising production is coming from shale rather than more conventional sources. That plus it's a relatively stable country and so on.

This is my own research from various sources. Use at your own risk etc.:2twocents

according to the current price moves the market feels it way over supplied.
 
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I can remember when oil was trading over $135pb some analysts including experts predicted it could go to $200pb. If I am correct when airlines were struggling to carry out their business during period of higher oil prices one Airline spokesman in Europe said we can run our airline even if oil goes to $200pb.At that time I became very bearish and oil went down to below $50pb. Many including Airlines hedged their oil when they heard about oil price of $200pb. When oil tumbled below $50pb they had to make huge losses. Later it rebounded to $80pb. In addition there could be volatility in oil market time to time due to different factors. In the mean time both Iran and USA could produce more oil in 2014 and 2015. We could see era of lower oil prices most probably around $80pb or below in 2014 and 2015.Lower oil prices is very good for the global economy. Especially it could improve global purchasing power.

My ideas are not a recommendation to either buy or sell any security, commodity or currency. Please do your own research prior to making any investment decisions.
 
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I can remember when oil was trading over $135pb some analysts including experts predicted it could go to $200pb. If I am correct when airlines were struggling to carry out their business during period of higher oil prices one Airline spokesman in Europe said we can run our airline even if oil goes to $200pb.At that time I became very bearish and oil went down to below $50pb. Many including Airlines hedged their oil when they heard about oil price of $200pb. When oil tumbled below $50pb they had to make huge losses. Later it rebounded to $80pb. In addition there could be volatility in oil market time to time due to different factors. In the mean time both Iran and USA could produce more oil in 2014 and 2015. We could see era of lower oil prices most probably around $80pb or below in 2014 and 2015.Lower oil prices is very good for the global economy. Especially it could improve global purchasing power.

My ideas are not a recommendation to either buy or sell any security, commodity or currency. Please do your own research prior to making any investment decisions.

read the same ideas regarding the USA also remember IRAQ once they get there act together and full production is going there's fair bit more added to supply. Russia another factor in energy rpices.
 
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Also, apart from a modest amount of spare capacity, every country except Saudi Arabia is running at or very close to capacity so there isn't a lot to spare.
My thoughts drifted into the future when oil becomes scarce. Would a militarily strong country take oil by force? Will price continue in an upward curve until uneconomically viable as an energy source? Considering mechanical movement requires lubrication and mostly combustion to move, the very existence of human beings will be threatened. Alternatives seem very slow and heavily reliant on changing light, heat or gravity to manageable energy. All of which convert comparatively poorly.

However when we read this -
Current generations of nuclear submarines never need to be refueled throughout their 25-year lifespans.
then nuclear powered stuff appears the only real way in the future. This will take care of fuel issues but lubrication will still be needed. Electricity from nuclear power stations will be the way.
 
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My thoughts drifted into the future when oil becomes scarce. Would a militarily strong country take oil by force? Will price continue in an upward curve until uneconomically viable as an energy source? Considering mechanical movement requires lubrication and mostly combustion to move, the very existence of human beings will be threatened. Alternatives seem very slow and heavily reliant on changing light, heat or gravity to manageable energy. All of which convert comparatively poorly.

However when we read this -
then nuclear powered stuff appears the only real way in the future. This will take care of fuel issues but lubrication will still be needed. Electricity from nuclear power stations will be the way.

It would only take something like fusion to change the world dramatically....
 
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according to the current price moves the market feels it way over supplied.
On that point I'll have to disagree.

Looking at history since WW2 (so that's nearly 70 years), oil "should" be around the $20 - $30 mark in 2014 USD. And yet there doesn't seem to be much oil available at this price, to the point that oil has become priced out of many markets (eg boiler fuel) as it's just too expensive.

If there's an over supply then why is it selling for 3 - 4 times the price it ought to be at? More to the point, why isn't there an outright flood of new oil coming on stream at such a high price?

I suspect the depletion of cheap oil has a lot to do with it. That is, we have oil but only if we're willing to pay sustained high prices for it, there just isn't much available at $30 or thereabouts that would have the economy humming along with an abundance of cheap energy.

It's possible of course that it's just a speculative bubble that we've seen over the past decade and that at some point it pops and oil prices drop 70% and stay there. Time will tell..... :2twocents
 
Beachlife (thanks the poster) gave an alert to a consolidation triangle (WTI) on another thread and a break out in price has since occurred. It has been about a three month consolidation with resistance around $105. Shall be interesting to see if this present breakout continues and price hits above $110.
 
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