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I think there will be a run on 99.8% grade1 nickel, now these contracts have to be transparent, long term contracts will be required to get price and supply certainty.
I would think it will be impossible to quickly change most production processes, or to change chemistries, it will be very interesting .
Very true, but I think it is more a concern for the Li ion battery producers, they need some certainty on the price of a major part of their process, imagine if you produce batteries and lock in contracts at a certain price to supply them, then one of your core materials eg lithium, nickel, manganese, graphite goes through the roof.I'm not sure how a nickel developer does a DFS at the moment. On $20K a ton, or $40K? It's a slightly different parameter on the economics of a project. CTM did their scoping study on 7.50/lb, it's now 21ish. They might have to plug in a range from 7.50 to 21, which is nuts.
@sptrawler agree that medium to longer term the LME debacle potentially damaging for the use of nickel as a key ingredient EV batteries, all European car manufacturers would be not liking the thought that a Chinese billionaire that likes to make big bets can massively influence the cost of one of their key raw commodity inputs, more longer term investment in LFP batteries as you say could ease the squeezeVery true, but I think it is more a concern for the Li ion battery producers, they need some certainty on the price of a major part of their process, imagine if you produce batteries and lock in contracts at a certain price to supply them, then one of your core materials eg lithium, nickel, manganese, graphite goes through the roof.
Some devices need the energy density of lithium ion batteries, as they are high current draw, even as we have said with E.V's at the moment the long range vehicles and definitely heavy vehicles will still need the more expensive materials.
The other thing is, I wouldn't think if you have a factory that rolls up Li ion batteries, you can just say to the production team, tomorrow we are changing to Li fe po batteries.
So I think the only option, will be to lock in a contract with a reliable producer, like I said I think BHP's nickel west will be getting a lot of knocks on the door.
Lets be honest, the shenanigans going on with major share holders shorting and not covering, makes you wonder how reliable they would be to source your material from IMO.
I would think so, but the grade1 nickel will be reserved for high spec batteries IMO.@sptrawler agree that medium to longer term the LME debacle potentially damaging for the use of nickel as a key ingredient EV batteries, all European car manufacturers would be not liking the thought that a Chinese billionaire that likes to make big bets can massively influence the cost of one of their key raw commodity inputs, more longer term investment in LFP batteries as you say could ease the squeeze
Déjà vu all over again ...This is going to be fun.
Usually took months to see these movements which are occuring within a day.
The problem for we small investors is that it's the major shareholders who get a disproportionate, ie undemocratic, vote which is effectively based on wealth. For example, as nice as Twiggy is (via Wyloo), he has at least a million times more voting power as an individual than I have. Combine that with a select few institutional decision makers, who are likely already heavily invested in IGO and therefore will be bigger winners again, then it's easy to see how when the takeover matter comes to a vote, then we are little more than nuisance value.maybe IGO should offer a scrip component ( instead of extra cash )
that would be the deal more acceptable to me
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