see weird , YOU claimed that the church has sound scientific backing - believes in evolution I believe you said - or tolerates it whatever. ...Perhaps one day you can ask him.
Good post Wayne, good to see some actual reasoning.
see weird , YOU claimed that the church has sound scientific backing - believes in evolution I believe you said - or tolerates it whatever. ...
so what do you suggest that the church should do about it's scientific credentials, considering it took almost 400 years to "forgive"Galileo.
... the Jesuit's put Galileo comfortably under house arrest, ...
Monsignor Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître (July 17, 1894 – June 20, 1966) was a Belgian Roman Catholic priest, honorary prelate, professor of physics and astronomer at the Catholic University of Leuven. He sometimes used the title Abbé or Monseigneur.
Lemaître proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his 'hypothesis of the primeval atom'.[1][2][3]
way to go joe
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CONCLUSION
Astrophysics pseudo-skeptics like Bridgman have certain recognizable characteristics in common.
- They speak down to their audience using 'arguments from authority'.
- They refuse to consider any electrical causation for anything in space.
- When confronted with =in your face evidence' such as the image of a high redshifted QSO in front of a more distant, low redshifted galaxy, they resort to arguments (usually involving math or statistics) to disprove – or at least make you doubt – what your eyes are telling you. The old Groucho Marx line comes to mind: “Who you gonna believe? Me? Or your lying eyes?”
- They put forward their assumptions as if they were universal truths. The fact that they have been voted upon and accepted by a self-involved, insular group of 'experts' does not make them true. Winning a hand vote is not the same thing as scientific validation.
- It is clear that they have never been exposed to the basic properties of plasma nor the fundamental inter-relationships between magnetic fields and electric currents. But they feel free to lecture those who have.
- If the pseudo-skeptic has a monetary interest (such as maintaining a funding stream or a salary) his criticisms often become vituperative.
BTW
The Big Bang was originally proposed by.... a catholic priest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaître
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Indeed. Sane thinking, Cartman, not confused at all.what i question is our "true" knowledge of the facts" (bearing in mind that todays facts may in fact be tomorrows fiction) ----- i prefer to believe everything yet believe nothing --- while accepting that anything is possible, yet may change at any given moment----
2020 why is it so damn difficult for you to simply accede to the request to give a brief description of the content of your interminable videos, rather than forcing anyone with a possible mild interest to actually have to start playing them? Just a single sentence would suffice.well if you go to the youtube, you'll see these details given
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1. Like this bloke: Man beat daughter over church refusal, ....
whacked her over the head in a bedroom with the concrete causing skin on her head to split and start bleeding....
"daughter was lucky did not kill her"
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2. He was a "proud" man who was "disappointed" his daughter had elected not to follow his Mormon faith.
3. Mr Stone said blood on Muliipu's shirt came from him hugging his daughter just before police arrived at his house.
4. ... an inability to understand "whacking someone on the head is unacceptable".
http://www.southasianconnection.com...ther-Kills-Daughter-For-Accepting-Christ.html
Muslim Father Kills Daughter For Accepting Christ
By The Christian Messenger Published 10/23/2008
A Saudi Arabian man cut out the tongue of his daughter and burned her to death after finding out that she had converted to Christianity.
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The killer works for the mutaween (Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice), an arm of the government that enforces religious purity
Jonestown was the informal name for the "Peoples Temple Agricultural Project", an intentional community in northwestern Guyana formed by the Peoples Temple, a cult from California, United States, led by Jim Jones. It became internationally notorious when, on November 18, 1978, 918 people died in the settlement as well as in a nearby airstrip and in Georgetown, Guyana's capital. The name of the settlement became synonymous with the incidents at those locations.
909 Temple members died in Jonestown, all but two from apparent cyanide poisoning in an event termed "revolutionary suicide" by Jones and some members on an audio tape of the event and in prior discussions. The poisonings in Jonestown followed the murder of five others by Temple members at a nearby Port Kaituma airstrip. The victims included Congressman Leo Ryan, the first and only Congressman murdered in the line of duty in the history of the United States.
Is it just me or have we completely LOST our way? This has turned into a debate over ecumenical matters and those who opppose their POV. With links to youtube thrown in (guilty myself but mine was of camp Jesus being hit by a bus) so can we please get back onto reporting about RELIGIOUS NUT JOBS?
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she didn't take the girl to a doctor because that would have been "complete disobedience to what we believe".
Another tragic, tragic story of religious nuts. This time an 11 year-old girl dies for her parents' misguided beliefs.
Mother of dead girl: sickness was test of faith
The mother of an 11-year-old girl who died of undiagnosed diabetes as the family prayed for her to get better has testified that she believes sickness is caused by sin and can be cured by God...
"I asked her if she loved Jesus," the mother testified. "She might have said yes. I know for sure she was acknowledging it. What sounds came out, I don't remember. She was making noises ... My focus definitely was to pray."
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