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This guy is so, so special
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump Jan 27
We are not even into February and the cost of illegal immigration so far this year is $18,959,495,168. Cost Friday was $603,331,392. There are at least 25,772,342 illegal aliens, not the 11,000,000 that have been reported for years, in our Country. So ridiculous! DHS
Wow! I didn't know that the great Liar in Chief was able to identify to the last dollar and to the last alien the troubles in the US.
So what is more troubling ? A President who clearly just makes up all sorts of lying tosh because he feels like or a party and supporter base that swallows this rubbish because ??
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I'd probably point out that this is at least partly a red herring in that you are pretending this is primarily a terrorist issue when in reality it's more illegal workers/immigrants, most of the arriving criminals are committing crimes other than terrorism, it's a lot to do with smuggling things other than people, etc etc.
I may or may not bother to point out that you are either stupid or disingenuous for saying this.
Most drugs are smuggled through tunnels or hidden in vehicles and other packaging in plain site.
No drug cartel put them on some refugees back pack.
Funny how Trump, Pence and them warriors want to free and liberate the Venezuelans from tyranny... yet these other south americans claiming they're escaping death squads and gang violence... or simply trying to seek freedom and democracy are being told to go f themselves.
It's probably true that most of the drugs are smuggled in vehicles, though I doubt a significant amount goes through tunnels.
However, you are actually acknowledging how effective you think the wall would (will) be! Very strange! This completely legitimises the decision to build it.
Where did I say a wall would be effective? Against what?
There's already fences, walls, border patrol etc. etc. there. Trump somehow managed to make it appear, sometimes, as though there isn't any.
If you just glance at the recent history of what the US is doing in South America lately. And I mean recent, not the 80s or before that... They've been flipping democratically elected gov't in at least half a dozen Latin American countries.
Trump manages to turn this into a big massive "security" issue. Why? Mainly because he needed scapegoats for why the average Americans aren't making ends meet. It cannot possibly be the endless wars, those trillions in tax cuts. It must be those aliens taking good paying jobs and committing crimes.
If you don't think it's going to be effective, why do you cry for the illegal immigrants?
Is this ignorance or a bad troll or something? In case there's any value in addressing this at face value: Some areas have no barrier of any sort and in some areas it will be upgraded.
Why is that a red hering?Ah, the old red herring strategy.
This obviously makes no sense. Americans are making ends meet far better than before he took power, especially non white Americans (so much for this supposedly racist/white supremacist president stomping down the coloured folks!). If he needed to use them as a scapegoat he wouldn't be trying to get the wall build, because that would kill his ability to use them as a scapegoat, unless he claimed his wall failed, in which case he would have to be deliberately setting himself up for failure. You are plainly making no sense at all.
There are probably three types of uncaring people: those who just don't know how sad and unfair life can be, those who don't want to know, and those who just don't have any empathy whatsoever (the sociopaths and psychopaths).
Walls, like fences, are only effective against law-abiding people.
That's why there are lines and lines of refugees at the US port of entry.
People trek all that thousands of miles. Escaping violence, hunger, famine, war... yea, that mean getting a better life, a chance to start and send some cash home so their family won't die... they lined up, submit their claim to asylum.. which they are legally entitled to under both the UN and the US law.
Guess what the US does?
They make that freaking bridge into that port of entry as narrow as possible. Staff it with as few people as possible. Let people wait in line for days and days, some even weeks. Then they either keep lining up or get stuffed or climb a fence somewhere.
Then they're labelled as illegal alien. Carrying drugs, bringing crimes; stealing babies.
But sure, put up a wall 'cause a wall always stop criminals trying to climb or dig or cut their way through.
Places without fencing have natural barriers. Like a desert or a ravine.
Why is that a red hering?
Look up and see why those South American countries are so poor and over run by drug cartel and dictators. Why their small farm can no longer survive when US-subsidised ag. floods the market, bankrupt small local farmers with low prices... then jack it up once the locals no longer grow their own.
You want to pass judgment, you ought to see the whole history. Not just look at what Trump and his retards tells you.
Thing is, surveys have shown that most Americans are very good people. They even want their gov't to go into debt to help refugees; they want the poor fed, the sick taken care of.
These azzholes politicians knew that. But being psychos, they thought money is better spent giving themselves tax cuts and subsidise their own industries and warmongering.
So they demonise the poor, the old, the weak... those refugees these wars cause; those economic migrants forced off their land... it's not because of trade policies that enriches the ag. giants, no, it's just brown people being greedy and want things for free.
Well, he know the stupid wall wouldn't work. So he can get his wall construction friends a few billions of work; show the idiots among his voters he's doing something to help them; and illegals still swarm over the fence.
I mean, mate... if people could walk all that distant to reach the border, you really think a wall is going to stop them? Honestly?
This is clearly untrue rhetoric to try to push your agenda. Walls work. If walls don't work, why are they used all over the world, including, ironically, by the people claiming that walls don't work? It's like the pope publicly declaring that anyone using guns to stop violence is a hypocrite, while he literally surrounds himself with guards armed with guns! And incidentally, living in a walled city! The ability of people like you to remain in denial is quite remarkable.
So later in this very post you talk about American citizens including full time teachers (your example) being unable to make ends meet, which clearly indicates that the USA is not as prosperous as it once was and has countless people doing it really tough, but you expect them to put huge resources into helping the needy? Why is the USA dumped with this huge responsibility? The USA is clearly doing better than its southern neighbours, but you seem to be a global socialist believing they have a responsibility to take in anyone who would be better off living in the USA? Which country in the world allows anyone who wants to come in because it would improve their life?
Because they are illegal aliens. And proportionately, they do commit more crimes than American citizens or legal immigrants.
Again, if walls don't work, why do countries all over the world use them and why do you care anyway? If you genuinely think it'll be ineffective, why not sit back and laugh about it? You're either stupid or disingenuous if you're upset about something which you claim will do nothing.
Again, if you believe that these places are impassable, why do you care?
True, maybe we could also look at what Obama and Clinton said about the situation. Oh, but when they called for a wall on the southern border it wasn't racist, because the media was telling us to love them not hate them. Is that it?
Thing is, Trump literally won the presidential election and the wall was a very big part of his platform. You clearly don't believe in democracy when it doesn't go your way.
Red herrings again. At least Trump is less of a warmongerer than Obama so that must keep you at least a little happy, right?
Not really, it's just like in any country in the world with a few European exceptions (which are having extreme problems because of it!), they want to look after their country and freely allowing in everyone who wants to come in would be a problem. Which country lets in everyone who wants to enter?
Why do countries all over the world use them? If it won't work, why do you care so much? Where is this passion coming from if it won't do anything anyway?
Beside that old Great Wall of China, Hadrian's and those surrounding castles.. well, Israel... how many countries have a literal wall nowadays?
Sure, have your national boundaries; sure have securities and protect your border... You don't need to do it all with a literal, physical wall. Do you?
The southern border Trump plans to wall off is about 2.5K miles? That's some 5,000 Km right?
Sydney to Perth is 3,933Km. Melbourne to Cairns is 2,943Km... You're getting the scale of the project here right?
What's the price estimate again? From $US20Billion to $US25B?
It costs less than $1B to end homelessness in the US.
Freaking Trump and his repubs just recently cut back "entitlements" like giving American kids meal vouchers at school as that's often their only full meal in the day. Cutting back on seniors, the elderly their "benefits" and medicare... Pushing disabled and injured people back to work, giving them that "dignity" and all that bs else they won't get any pennies.
Do you know how far 1/20th of that proposed $20B for a stupid wall could go towards feeding and healing those Americans?
You heard of teachers protesting for a higher wage, walk off the job but some of them still pack lunches for their students because they know the kids won't get fed otherwise.
There are over 3,000 American cities where the water has high level of lead in it.
The list can go on and on...
So, Trump want his stupid billions for a wall.
How many wall, physical barriers do you think a refugee crosses to get to the US?
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If Trump really do give a damn about the average Americans and their safety, their well being... he'd start by not giving $2Trillion in tax cuts to the corporate elite in under two years.
His admin wouldn't systematically deregulate, and then brag about cutting the most "red tapes" ever.
What are those red tapes? Pollution, fuel efficiency standards, payday lending etc. etc.
So why wouldn't anyone be upset and angry on hearing the nonsense he's spouting. That should be the question.
They're either ill informed, or just a total idiot. I'm leaning towards being ill-informed.
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I don't care for Obama, or Billy Clinton, or Hillary.
As said before, those two black presidents are worst than Trump. Trump has always been a lying piece of crap who doesn't give a damn about anyone or anything but money. So he's just being himself, as lowly and amoral as that is.
Clinton and Obama came from poor working families. They knew what it's like to have nothing, be given an opportunity... and when presented with both the position and the opportunities to do something they know is right, they freaking chose money and power over those whose stories and effort they've used and manipulated to get to power.
So yea, they're lower than Trump. That's not saying Trump is any better a human being though.
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As to the average Americans doing badly so why should their taxes be used to house and fed the poor foreigners.
For one, their taxes are being use to feed and house and subsidise those rich azzholes on Wall St and in high places right now.
They would rather, being decent human beings that most of them are, have those taxes be spent and "wasted" on their rundown roads, their freezing cold, sweltering mould infested schools... and help those in danger and in need of help as a few thousands often mean life and literal death.
Second, those come seeking refuge aren't coming to just take but not give.
ANyway, been said before.
As to illegals committing more crimes... well, beside that crime of illegally entering the US, studies have shown they commit way less crime than the average citizen group.
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