Whiskers
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Redneck is a derogatory slang term to refer to poor white Southern farmers in the United States.[1] It is similar in meaning to "cracker" (especially in Georgia and Florida), "hillbilly" (especially in Appalachia) and "white trash" (especially among blacks). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck
a southern US white farm labourer, esp. one who is illeducated or ignorant... any uneducated prejuceded person, usually a manual worker.
my understanding of the origins of the word 'redneck' was that it came from the dutch term 'roine-neck' (probly incorrect spelling sorry) which was the term the boers used for the british soldiers fighting in the boer war, as the harsh african sun on their un-aclimatised skin combined with the heavily starched collars of their uniform rubbed their necks red raw... correct me if i'm mistaken
In the total scheme of things what do you expect the PM of Aus to say about that sort of comment,.
Ummmm...... nothing, you expect the leader of the country not to concern himself with such things.
And then to go and imply Alabama is full of rednecks,
...are we being run by a 2year old or what?
Fair suck of the sav there fellas!
Our Macquarie Dictionary:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BoganThe term bogan (pronounced /ˈboʊɡən/, rhyming with slogan) is Australian and New Zealand English slang, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for a person who is, or is supposed to be, of a lower-class background and whose characteristics exemplify, often crudely, this background
In a psychological sense Williams came across not as simple humour, but with a degree of sarcasm in a mocking tone, and to that extent our politically astute PM responded correctly
I doubt that was the meaning Williams was referring to.
But according to American tradition and culture, they are!!!...certainly more so that Aus.
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Oh, for heaven's sake, Whiskers, get a sense of proportion!In a psychological sense Williams came across not as simple humour, but with a degree of sarcasm in a mocking tone, and to that extent our politically astute PM responded correctly.
http://www.bettyphillipspsychology.com/id74.html
So in other words he should have used the word bogan
Seems a more apt definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogan
My God whiskers, were your feelings a little hurt when Williams called us rednecks
Back to my original concern. Hostile teasing, picking, biting humor or sarcasm too often are insults poorly disguised as humor. They also are "double bind" communications which cause confusion, frustration, personal pain and anger in the recipient. The disguised message runs as follows. "I'm making fun of you and belittling you, but it's only humor. I don't really mean what I just said. There's something wrong with you when you don't accept my statements at face value as teasing even though my words are in fact critical and hostile."
What to do? Its difficult to just walk away from the person taunting you because more of the same comments will likely follow. You will have to learn to be assertive and stand up to this kind of derogatory communication. "Call a spade a spade." That is, try to unmask the negative undertone or hostile intent of the picking or hurtful teasing. You can give your tormentor a copy of this article. You can ask that the person examine his or her intent in making these kinds of comments.
http://www.bettyphillipspsychology.com/id74.html
Don't you worry about those big bad seppos. They won't taunt us no more after Rudd's hissy fit
A classic example of 'Teasing: Just Joking?' You should study the link.
Aren't you going to comment on John Howards similar behaviour or that the Alabama gov responed in kind?
Do they deserve the same crititism
Wow Zing!!! from the Alabama governor, notice the difference in what they saidIn response, the Alabama governor pointed to Australian company Austral's decision to invest heavily in Alabama.
"That's why Alabama is home to Australian companies like Austral which employs more than 1000 Alabamians at the world's largest aluminium shipyard," Riley said.
"I'm not sure if Prime Minister Rudd has ever been to Alabama," Riley responded in a statement.
"If he has, he would know that Alabamians are decent, hard working, creative people."
Oh, for heaven's sake, Whiskers, get a sense of proportion!
I heard a replay of the comments in question on ABC Radio and found it funny and good humoured in a similar way to the frequent mocking of Australians by Kiwis and vice versa.
I'd have hoped Mr Rudd would have somewhat more pressing matters with which to occupy his thoughts.
If we are all going to become absorbed into the current obsession for political correctness there's no hope for us imo.
Btw, I'm not in anyway supporting or defending Rudd, what I'm about is the underlying psychology of the behavior and the correct way to deal with it.
I wasn't joking whiskers I think Williams did offend you
Read my earlier post properly moXJO, show us where I said that.John Howard said Alabama was full of rednecks?
Wow Zing!!! from the Alabama governor, notice the difference in what they said
I know you do moXJO. Shame you can't see my point.
Read my earlier post properly moXJO, show us where I said that.
You are just demonstrating your own stupidity by distorting the facts and trying to trivialise anyone who dissagrees with you.
Yes indeed, he knew exactly how derogeratory the term is and tried to argue that it didn't apply to one of the very states that the Yankes originally and still do apply the word to ocassionally.
That's why I said Rudd was 'clever' in the way he responded and deflected the comment back to whence it came.
So attacking someone else altogether is clever is it? How about play the man, ignore, or do what the governor in Alabama did and turn it into a positive spin reinforcing his people’s virtues. No let’s infer they are more redneck.That's why I said Rudd was 'clever' in the way he responded and deflected the comment back to whence it came.
Ok whiskers my trades not doing much atm, lets talk about the John Howard incident. Was that the one in which a women had a penis slapped on her face on a TV show (not shown only a sound bite). Yes great context to the current situation there. Was there a reason for the PM to comment in that situation? Or are you talking about another situation?
So attacking someone else altogether is clever is it? How about play the man, ignore, or do what the governor in Alabama did and turn it into a positive spin reinforcing his people’s virtues. No let’s infer they are more redneck.
Nice change of tone there moXJO, thank you.
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That's one example where the PM of the day voiced his opinion about undesirable social behavior.
Another case for the tourism industry and poor reflection on Aus was the 'Where the bloody hell are you' thing that was dumped. Don't recall exactly what polies commented but it wasn't a good look and was canned prematurely after public crititism.
But Williams started the attack on Rudd who as I said simply deflected it back to whence it came.
Have another look at his comment..."I think Robin Williams should go and spend a bit of time in Alabama before he frames comments about anyone being particularly redneck."
Rudd did play the man Williams by simply questioning the validity of the comment.
In any case Rudd didn't appreciate being called a redneck and nor did the Alabama governor... my point is that's their right... score even I suppose and the egg is all back on williams face for starting it.
How can you say that whiskersI'm surprised you suggest ignore. That's something you don't practice what you preach
namrog Don't you people have anything better to do . or talk about.
This is a typical GG type of redneck thread about absolutely nothing !!
Have a safe Easter everyone ..........
COMEDIAN Robin Williams has apologised to Kevin Rudd and offered to take him to a strip club next time the PM visits the US.
Williams yesterday laughed off the controversy after he dubbed Aussies "English rednecks" on US TV, but said he was sorry.
....Mr. Williams offer to take Mr.Rudd to a strip club is exceedingly generous, given that drunks in clubs of that ilk often end up in trouble with the girls or the bouncers......
Hahaha. On ya Robin. Funny, funny dude.
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