Kevin Rudd

MrBurns · 4 October 2008

Re: Rudd, I'm pissed off aren't you?

pacestick said:
Some quotes from asio web site. It appears the Libs were looking in the wrong place

2006-07, ASIO completed 53 387 visa security assessments and issued adverse assessments in relation to seven individuals seeking entry to Australia. This advice was based on rigorous assessments of the potential threat to Australia's security of allowing these individuals entry. Asio home page

Faheem Khalid Lodhi - a highly educated professional who was well established in the community - was convicted in June 2006 for planning a terrorist attack on Australian soil.
Lodhi's plans to attack the electricity supply system may have been directed at causing damage to property but would probably also have resulted in the death or injury of innocent civilians.
And, as noted by Justice Wheatley, such attacks would 'instil terror into members of the public so that they could never again feel free from the threat
director general asio speech
Terroists do not arrive in leaky boats which have a chance of sinking or being detected they arrive at international airports with the best false identities money can buy

Well it's good to know that you know how terrorists arrive in this country, we can rely on that information can we ?

In any case they were illegal imigrants. if you let them in you send a message to the rest of the world that they just have to get here and they get Govt assistance and welfare payments from day one.

MrBurns · 4 October 2008

Re: Rudd, I'm pissed off aren't you?

pacestick said:
In the interests of a healthy debate could we do research and not rely on the standard vague lib statements such as a reasonable interest rate what is a reasonable interest rate to me as a mortgage holder its as low as possible to my father as an interest rate reciever retiree its as high as possible

Take your own advice your posts are full of unsubstantiated opinion.

MrBurns · 4 October 2008

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Nashezz said:
You are a nong Burns. Read pacesticks quote about terrorists - you will have to accept that you were completely duped by some of the more zealous members of RW journalism. Oh well, plenty of time for you to learn I guess.

You are the first economist I have ever heard state that higher interest rates do not impinge on both business and consumer growth and investment. Funny.

If it were up to you Australia would be full of anyone who took their chance in a boat. It's bad enough that we have you.

I was in business so I know and I know what hurts and what doesn't. Interest rates were way too low for too long, now it's catch up time and all the unfortunates who thought that these things never change got an awful shock. I blame the system/banks for not giving enough warning and making lending too easy.

Nashezz · 4 October 2008

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lol ok Burns.

chops_a_must · 4 October 2008

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MrBurns said:
Well it's good to know that you know how terrorists arrive in this country

Yeah, usually in air force one.

MrBurns said:
In any case they were illegal imigrants. if you let them in you send a message to the rest of the world that they just have to get here and they get Govt assistance and welfare payments from day one.

Like the Kiwis in Bondi you mean?

Would much rather let people in who are willing to risk their lives to be a part of this country, rather than bludging kiwis or rich south african pricks who left because they didn't like having to share a working environment with blacks.

MrBurns · 4 October 2008

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chops_a_must said:
Yeah, usually in air force one.

Like the Kiwis in Bondi you mean?

Would much rather let people in who are willing to risk their lives to be a part of this country, rather than bludging kiwis or rich south african pricks who left because they didn't like having to share a working environment with blacks.

If it wasnt for the Yanks you'd be speaking Japanese by now so stick the left wing "I hate the USA" crap where it belongs.

Would much rather let people in who are willing to risk their lives to be a part of this country

What a load of crud, I don't think they would have come here if there was something else a bit closer and easier, they heard all about the great welfare system here from all their Labor voter mates, "you'll never have to work again" they were told.

Nashezz · 4 October 2008

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MrBurns said:
If it wasnt for the Yanks you'd be speaking Japanese by now so stick the left wing "I hate the USA" crap where it belongs.

What a load of crud, I don't think they would have come here if there was something else a bit closer and easier, they heard all about the great welfare system here from all their Labor voter mates, "you'll never have to work again" they were told.

Gee whiz Burns you are hilarious. You will find that people that are annoyed/frustrated/exasperated or just sick of, 'the US', are not on one side of the political fence or the other. I also think you will find it is well over 50% of Australians that you could possibly call left that fit this category. And the last part of your post is just sheer ignorance and delusion. To think Afghanis in some remote tribe had some 'Labor voter mates' telling them to spend their entire life savings to risk their and their families' to go to Australia because 'its good there' is laughable. You are laughable.

Macquack · 4 October 2008

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chops_a_must said:
I hate those bloody jewish terrorists as well! Go back to Germany and Eastern Europe where you belong!

Are you referring to those terrorists in their military tanks blasting the crap out of a couple of Palestinian school kids throwing stones?

MrBurns · 4 October 2008

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Nashezz said:
You are laughable.

And you are stupid ......that was an exaggeration that most people would have picked up as tongue in cheek but it went straight over your flat head.

Nashezz · 4 October 2008

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MrBurns said:
And you are stupid ......that was an exaggeration that most people would have picked up as tongue in cheek but it went straight over your flat head.

Mm hmm. Ok Burns - no arguing with your superior wit.

MrBurns · 4 October 2008

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Burns: Look at that pig. Stuffing his face with donuts on my time! That's right, keep eating...Little do you know you're drawing ever closer to the poison donut! ..............There is a poison one, isn't there Smithers?
Smithers: Err...no, sir. I discussed this with our lawyers and they consider it murder.

chops_a_must · 4 October 2008

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Macquack said:
Are you referring to those terrorists in their military tanks blasting the crap out of a couple of Palestinian school kids throwing stones?

I'm talking about those outsiders who in 38 and 39 who were turned away, and were largely put to their deaths...

Macquack · 4 October 2008

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chops_a_must said:
I'm talking about those outsiders who in 38 and 39 who were turned away, and were largely put to their deaths...

Are you talking about "financial" terrorists.

chops_a_must · 4 October 2008

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Macquack said:
Are you talking about "financial" terrorists.

I'm lending 'today's' cliched response to almost exactly the same group of people, in situational terms, as those of a previous era.

You look back, and there was just as much anti-semitic fervour in allied countries, as there was hostility towards refugees in recent times.

And certainly they would have been labelled financial terrorists in today's language, amongst other things, yes.

IFocus · 4 October 2008

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MrBurns said:
If it wasnt for the Yanks you'd be speaking Japanese by now so stick the left wing "I hate the USA" crap where it belongs.

The president of the US at the time was a Democrat nothing like today's president.

chops_a_must · 4 October 2008

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IFocus said:
The president of the US at the time was a Democrat nothing like today's president.

Comparing an isolationist moderate to a blood thirsty war mongering idiot is pretty absurd.

Julia · 4 October 2008

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chops_a_must said:
Like the Kiwis in Bondi you mean?

Would much rather let people in who are willing to risk their lives to be a part of this country, rather than bludging kiwis or rich south african pricks who left because they didn't like having to share a working environment with blacks.

As a New Zealander I find that offensive.
If you were to check some facts, you would find that New Zealanders can only obtain unemployment benefits if they are permanent residents of Australia. Such unemployment benefits are then reimbursed by New Zealand via the N.Z./Australia Reciprocal Agreement.

New Zealanders living permanently in Australia who are eligible for the Age Pension in fact have that benefit paid by New Zealand.

Have you been to South Africa in recent years? In Johannesburg in particular conditions are so violent that ordinary people will not go out after dusk. If you even consider the pathetic impotence of Thabo Mbeki in attempting to mediate between the opposing contenders in Zimbabwe, you should have some comprehension of the woeful state of South African government.

Any South African immigrants to Australia pay their way well and truly, and are as far as I've ever seen a real asset to our country. They are hard working and pleasant people.

What is it with you, Chops, that you feel obliged to make such unjustified and simply unpleasant remarks so often? Does it make you feel better to take a swipe at other people?

I've generally found that those who need to denigrate others are saying more about themselves than those whom they are trying to criticise.

IFocus · 4 October 2008

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Julia said:
As a New Zealander I find that offensive.
If you were to check some facts, you would find that New Zealanders can only obtain unemployment benefits if they are permanent residents of Australia. Such unemployment benefits are then reimbursed by New Zealand via the N.Z./Australia Reciprocal Agreement.

New Zealanders living permanently in Australia who are eligible for the Age Pension in fact have that benefit paid by New Zealand.

Have you been to South Africa in recent years? In Johannesburg in particular conditions are so violent that ordinary people will not go out after dusk. If you even consider the pathetic impotence of Thabo Mbeki in attempting to mediate between the opposing contenders in Zimbabwe, you should have some comprehension of the woeful state of South African government.

Any South African immigrants to Australia pay their way well and truly, and are as far as I've ever seen a real asset to our country. They are hard working and pleasant people.

What is it with you, Chops, that you feel obliged to make such unjustified and simply unpleasant remarks so often? Does it make you feel better to take a swipe at other people?

I've generally found that those who need to denigrate others are saying more about themselves than those whom they are trying to criticise.

Julia I think you are now whats called a live bait

Julia · 4 October 2008

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IFocus said:
Julia I think you are now whats called a live bait

Am I? OK, we'll see.

Calliope · 4 October 2008

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Julia said:
Am I? OK, we'll see.

Some people can't handle the truth. I wish you luck Julia.

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