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That is where the great Lib leader, Malcom No1, lost his pants isn't it?
Rudd may give them the shirt off his back but I'll bet he comes back with his pants.
Turnbull is cut from the same cloth as Paulson, and yet he is on the verge of burying the US citizens in debt like the world has never seen.
Cheers,
Steve
In principle, yes. But endless talking is empty. Mr Rudd is behaving like the bureaucrat he is, overlaid with his 'diplomat' smooth robotic delivery.
Btw I am a swinging voter. Have voted for both Labor and the Libs, federally and in State elections. Depends on the personalities, stated beliefs and policies of each at the time.
OK, Kyoto: would have been meaningful once, but by the time he ratified it was outdated and meaningless. To the critics: an empty gesture: to the faithful supporters, the keeping of a promise. Depends entirely on where you're coming from.
Sorry Day: oh dear, so much emotion at the time. It was going to cure everything. Just show me one aboriginal person whose life is better as a result.
The 2020 Summit: a feel good exercise. Those who were invited were thrilled, regarded it as their opportunity to personally convey their vision for Australia to the Prime Minister. In the event a lot of words were cast about, many promises were made, people felt 'heard', 'listened to' and believed they had done their bit for solving all the nation's difficulties. Now all these months later, tell me how many actions have resulted from this event?
Imo it was a populist stunt designed to have the population think, oh wow, Kevin 07 is a man of the people. He is going to govern by true democracy, giving us all our chance to contribute to the policy making of the country.
Yeah, right.
And now there is going to be another summit, this time for heads of local government. We already have the heads of local government meeting.
It is to be a one day affair. With 100 or more attendees. With Kevin 07 smiling beatifically over the gathering. They will all go away feeling good and are all very excited to be going. Is there any expectation of anything actually happening as a result? I doubt it.
The "Education Revolution". Remember? the one where every student was to have their own computer. They're still waiting.
The solar panel rebate plan: Moxjo has adequately responded here.
And to whoever said the suppliers were run off their feet, that's not what I heard via ABC News. The spokesperson for the suppliers (this was about two weeks ago) said they were receiving good orders but for much smaller panels than previously. Overall bottom line is well down.
And then there's his obvious egocentricity in feeling the need to be rushing about the world, spreading his vision to all, regardless of whether they are interested, viz his suggestion for a new Asia/Pacific body. The silence from the other countries on that was breathtaking.
And I genuinely felt sorry for him delivering his brilliant address (stating the obvious about the financial crisis) to the UN in recent hours. The chamber was all but empty and apparently the few people attending went to sleep!
But I should qualify the above by saying that I do think he was right to go to New York/Washington in this visit. Not for the original reason, but to be there amongst discussions of the biggest financial crisis for decades.
So all up, I'm not intrinsically anti-Labor. But Kevin 07 just doesn't do it for me. I actually prefer the vocally challenged Ms Gillard who seems to make comments which are to the point and pretty much gets on with the job.
Never thought I'd say that!
A case of the pot calling the kettle black. And 2020 doesn't need your help.
Wasn't trying to help 2020, I know he is capable of defending himself. I merely wanted to point out a fact to you. Did you finish high school Calliope?
Wasn't trying to help 2020, I know he is capable of defending himself. I merely wanted to point out a fact to you. Did you finish high school Calliope?
Hell CalliopePoor old 2020. I wondered when you would take take the bait. You weren't making any headway on the pro Rudd thread, so you thought you would muddy the waters on this one. Naturally you love Rudd, you have so much in common. All waffle and no substance. His UN address that you loved so much went over like a lead balloon.
But you are right about one thing. History has moved on. It's all downhill for Rudd from now on. He is starting to look pathetic.
Hell Calliope
I post here - and I post there.
You post here and you post there.
Thing is, in the final analysis, you make a post like this one...
and you wonder (I assume) why you don't have any cred.
or maybe you just don't care whether you have cred or not.Too busy buzzing around in your dodgem car sideswiping, moving on, sideswiping, moving on etc.[/QUOre TE]
Sorry guys.
Don't want to get in the middle of a s**t fight, but remember we share more with each other than we differ.
gg
This one was necessary to balance the obvious bias from a number of members. I would expect a poll to be against Rudd on this forum where unbridled capitalism is the dominating attitude. Combining the two will result in more personal abuse that genuine contributions. The minority view needs a soap box too.
Calliope - as I said in another thread, you are an idiot with nothing useful to add but slander and unmitigated bias. Go away. Please.
The first big slipup, alias challenge is the "Computers to NSW schools" matter
But even there, I for one am prepared to say they are trying to address a seriously major problem (education), and the show isn't over till the lady nails on the horny helmet etc.
Challenge as against failure etc.
.
the only thing more boring than rudd himself is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Ooops where was I.
Hell Calliope
I post here - and I post there.
You post here and you post there.
Thing is, in the final analysis, you make a post like this one...
and you wonder (I assume) why you don't have any cred.
or maybe you just don't care whether you have cred or not.Too busy buzzing around in your dodgem car sideswiping, moving on, sideswiping, moving on etc.
In principle, yes. But endless talking is empty. Mr Rudd is behaving like the bureaucrat he is, overlaid with his 'diplomat' smooth robotic delivery.
Btw I am a swinging voter. Have voted for both Labor and the Libs, federally and in State elections. Depends on the personalities, stated beliefs and policies of each at the time.
OK, Kyoto: would have been meaningful once, but by the time he ratified it was outdated and meaningless. To the critics: an empty gesture: to the faithful supporters, the keeping of a promise. Depends entirely on where you're coming from.
Sorry Day: oh dear, so much emotion at the time. It was going to cure everything. Just show me one aboriginal person whose life is better as a result.
The 2020 Summit: a feel good exercise. Those who were invited were thrilled, regarded it as their opportunity to personally convey their vision for Australia to the Prime Minister. In the event a lot of words were cast about, many promises were made, people felt 'heard', 'listened to' and believed they had done their bit for solving all the nation's difficulties. Now all these months later, tell me how many actions have resulted from this event?
Imo it was a populist stunt designed to have the population think, oh wow, Kevin 07 is a man of the people. He is going to govern by true democracy, giving us all our chance to contribute to the policy making of the country.
Yeah, right.
And now there is going to be another summit, this time for heads of local government. We already have the heads of local government meeting.
It is to be a one day affair. With 100 or more attendees. With Kevin 07 smiling beatifically over the gathering. They will all go away feeling good and are all very excited to be going. Is there any expectation of anything actually happening as a result? I doubt it.
The "Education Revolution". Remember? the one where every student was to have their own computer. They're still waiting.
The solar panel rebate plan: Moxjo has adequately responded here.
And to whoever said the suppliers were run off their feet, that's not what I heard via ABC News. The spokesperson for the suppliers (this was about two weeks ago) said they were receiving good orders but for much smaller panels than previously. Overall bottom line is well down.
And then there's his obvious egocentricity in feeling the need to be rushing about the world, spreading his vision to all, regardless of whether they are interested, viz his suggestion for a new Asia/Pacific body. The silence from the other countries on that was breathtaking.
And I genuinely felt sorry for him delivering his brilliant address (stating the obvious about the financial crisis) to the UN in recent hours. The chamber was all but empty and apparently the few people attending went to sleep!
But I should qualify the above by saying that I do think he was right to go to New York/Washington in this visit. Not for the original reason, but to be there amongst discussions of the biggest financial crisis for decades.
So all up, I'm not intrinsically anti-Labor. But Kevin 07 just doesn't do it for me. I actually prefer the vocally challenged Ms Gillard who seems to make comments which are to the point and pretty much gets on with the job.
Never thought I'd say that!
Strange that, I dislike Rudd because I am a leftie.And you love Rudd because you are a leftie.
trying aint good enough.
folk elect labor to "try"
they elect the liberals to deliver.
gg
Callipe, you have to give 20/20 some due he has stuck to kevin07 like a trooper and at the moment is well and truly in the trenches refusing to fly the white flag:bs:but the acid test will be when the good ship Rudd takes on water and is sinking fast will there be room in the lifeboat for the 2 of them,if not Kevy baby has lost one loyal servant:screwy::horse:
And as I said in the same thread, I now know what you problem is. However I am willing to make a truce with you. if you control your nastiness, I will stop treating you like an idiot.
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