KEVIN RUDD - Wins the Australian Federal election!

Not to mention Labor has been in like 2 days, and have 10 years of Howard Government inaction and neglect to clean up after, no wonder Howard had such good surpluses to splash on Toys like Jetfigters and war games in Iraq, they fixed nothing and added around about zip in infrastructure !

I personally think Rudd is like a whirlwind with getting the ball rolling so far, can bet that Liberals are going to block anything and everything in the upper house just to be pests, and then you guys will be able to sit back and (falsely) say loook they arnt doing anything

hello,

hang-on, like five state labor gov's isnt reasonable indication on what these guy's do to the world, they ruin things

too hard for bracks, walks out

too hard for beattie walks out,

a SA guy went not long ago also I think,

this guy is a big big mistake for the world, everything was a copy of Howard's policies

thankyou

robots

Hello Federal Government starved the states of crucial money for years, such as taking money out of the health system a decade ago, now everything is going to cost twice as much, short term savings for long term pain, Liberals personified. (sorta like customers of yours that didnt buy a house in 2000 and waited till 2007 to save more of a deposit!)

Now wall to wall Labor is chipping away at the problems and can cooperate with each other, Seems federal Liberal where probably using the hold back the money leverage to make states look bad in hope of getting re-elected and give Lib state oppositions better chance of election.

Thats my take on it anyway.

PRIME Minister elect Kevin Rudd will tasked his MPs to visit a homeless shelter in their area and deliver a report on the numbers of people turned away each night.

Mr Rudd used an appearance on ABC TV tonight to set the second batch of "homework" for the ALP MPs and Senators about to come into government following Labor's stunning election win on Saturday.

They were previously told to visit one public school and one private school before Labor's first post-election caucus meeting on Thursday and to report back on computer needs at the schools.

"The next challenge I'll be outlining to the parliamentary colleagues is sometime during the next week or two I'll expect each of them to have visited homeless shelters in or near their electorates and report on local supply and demand situations," Mr Rudd said to ABC TV.

"The turn away rate for people who present at homeless shelters is horrific, turn away rates of something like 80 or 90 per cent.

"This is just wrong in a country as wealthy as ours.''

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Hooley Dooley, whats up with this guy, a Heart and a conscience , he better becareful or a nation will fall in love with him

Duckman#72 said:

As far as earning my vote next time. I am the first to admit I have been very impressed with Kevin over the past 3 months and since being elected. He seems to have a real passion and desire to move Australia forward. I look forward to seeing what he does in this term. I have been very impressed.

Whether you liked him or not, in my opinion John Howard genuinely tried to do what he felt was right for the country. (Whether or not you agreed with those actions is another point) I think that is the type of person that Rudd appears to be.

But my problem has never been Kevin. He is like the star player in the footy team, where the supporters say...."I wish we had another 10 like him". I just hope that the rest of Labor can keep up with his intellect, drive and vision. I have a real question mark over Garrett, Swan, Gillard etc. But I promise Numbercruncher to keep an open mind.

Now your turn Numbercruncher....did you hear Paul Keating on ABC radio yesterday? What did you think of that effort? That could be a new thread in itself. Isn't he the most bitter, pathetic, tormented and dillusional soul that has been in Australian politics? Everything revolves the Keating years!!! He even got a plug in about how his win over Hewson was more impressive than Rudds over Howards!!!

Duckman

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Duckman,
You could have written this for me. I agree entirely with all you have said.
At this early stage, I feel quite positive about the new government, though as you have pointed out, this essentially just consists of Kevin Rudd so far.
My reservations - like yours - have not been about Mr Rudd, but rather his side kicks, especially Garrett whom I hope will not be appointed a Minister.

Still, Numbercruncher, it might be a good idea to just tone down the adoration a tiny bit. Any new leader is going to be filled with adrenalin-sparked passion on finally achieving their goal. I notice already that the promise during the campaign of "all students receiving their own laptops" has been changed to "sufficient computers in schools for all students". Subtle but definite difference. Noticed the same sort of qualifying language in Mr Rudd's interview on the "7.30 Report" this evening.

So far he's doing pretty well, but I remain on the positive side of neutral for the next six months.

Julia said:

I notice already that the promise during the campaign of "all students receiving their own laptops" has been changed to "sufficient computers in schools for all students"..

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I dont remeber that one Julia, I remember a means tested rebate (for Laptops,Internet etc etc) , maybe "sufficient computers in schools for all students" is extra on top of that ? Do you have a link for that, that states its been changed Julia please ?

What did he do on the 730 report ?

In my view.......
We have unfortunately replaced one politician with another, when what this country needs is a proven businessman, all I can see for the future is more of the self=serving waffle aimed primarily at retaining "power ??".
Any competent company exec officer/financial officer would laugh at the wastage/lack of reinvestment of profits in favour of populism politics that these clowns have convinced us is good for us..... hey it's our country, our business, our future, our mistake....
:sheep:

Cheers
..........Kauri

numbercruncher said:

I dont remeber that one Julia, I remember a means tested rebate (for Laptops,Internet etc etc) , maybe "sufficient computers in schools for all students" is extra on top of that ? Do you have a link for that, that states its been changed Julia please ?

What did he do on the 730 report ?

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Julia's right Numbercruncher - you need to tone it down a bit. I get the feeling you are dry humping your office chair as you type.

Following is the announcement Kevin Rudd made during the election campaign:

"Today I announce that if elected, Federal Labor will undertake a ground-breaking reform by providing for every Australian secondary school student in years nine to 12 with access to their own computer at school. This is an education revolution."

I hope that you are right about wall to wall Labor fixing up the health and education systems. Here in Qld all we hear about is "the blame game". Well Anna - there can't be anymore "blame game". Bligh and the rest of Beattie's cronies have been ****ing cash up against the wall and then crying poor for years.

There have been a couple of things I've been pleased about since Rudd's elevation but watching Anna Bligh's smile widen when talking about the health system is not one of them.

Duckman

Duckman#72 said:

Julia's right Numbercruncher -
Following is the announcement Kevin Rudd made during the election campaign:

"Today I announce that if elected, Federal Labor will undertake a ground-breaking reform by providing forevery Australian secondary school student in years nine to 12 with access to their own computer at school. This is an education revolution."

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Yes so its access to for every student in nine to 12 as opposed to all students receiving a laptop, so nothing reneged yet!

I hope wall to wall works as well, cant be any worse than whats been going down for the last umpteen years.

Sorry for get so excited about this Government, its just the last one imho was absolutely pathetic and did very little for the people who voted them in, except treat them like Mushrooms.

If wall to wall doesnt work, well state elections just vote em out , the voters obviously dont comepletely blame teh state Governments or they would of been ousted already surely ?

wow... sending ministers to school and homeless shelter.... Bloody brilliant!

And as for this whole team issue... that is nonsense... it very easy to say, but the facts don't back it up.

Compare Howards team to Rudds...

Howard had at best one competent minister... Costello... and maybe one more up and comer in Turnbull (Costello himself thought howard was incompetent, but thats another story).

Who else?? Downer? Andrews? Abott? Hockey? Vaile? Campbell? Nelson? Pyne? Coonan (the worst of the worst).... I mean come on... you guys need to say how these people are any good.... even with so called 11 years of experience... they are absolute rubbish!

His past ministers have been even worse...
Robert Hill? Ruddock? Vanstone? Reith? Campbell?

The thing with the labor ministers is that experience doesn't matter...

Rudd has set a framework where a panel of ‘non political’ experts advise on policies direction and ministers just front it, not the other way around, where decisions were made purely on political motivation and to serve vested interest. (i.e. hospital takeovers, baby bonuses, pensioner bribes, buying useless american war machinery, kids overboard, haneef detention, fairness test, fair trade agreements, retaining single wheat desk, half baked water policy, not signing kyoto, some dodgy, unworkable wireless solution for the bush costing 1bill when the NextG network is already there... etc, etc...

Now decision will be made by non elected bureaucrats whose aim is whats best for Australia, not whats best for the political party… Rudd being a bureaucrat himself, values this immensely.


There was a reason Howard had to run a presidential style campaign against Rudd.... he knew his ministers were as incompetent as the others, even after 11 years of 'experience'


Labor on the other hand, even with being in office for a handful of days, has the potential to develop some real quality ministers with a lot of knowledge and passion in each of their portfolios... gillard in IR, tanner in finance, roxon in health, even garrett in the environment. Plus there is some serious intellectual quality in the wings in Mike Kelly, Greg Combet, Maxine McKew, Penny Wong, etc...

my only two concerns are treasury and foreign policy... but i would expect rudd himself to play a very hands on role in both of them.

hello,

oh yeah Maxine MacKew, a tv performer, top talent

every student to have access to OWN computer, not sharing NC, OWN computer, backflipped ruddie

the first stage of burecratic rubbish has emerged from Ruddie, performance benchmarks

thankyou

robots

robots said:

the first stage of burecratic rubbish has emerged from Ruddie, performance benchmarks

thankyou

robots

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Even boards of companies have performance benchmarks.

Re computers - it only goes to years 9 - 12. So dont get overly excited you kindy to year 8ers.

Rudd had to come out firing he has to make a good impression over the next year which was what I was betting on. Should see some decent changes nothing ground breaking but better then what it is at the moment.

As far as states being starved of money that’s a bit of a farce N.S.W was flush with money with old Bob Carr at the helm he just found new and inventive ways to splurge it. Not to mention they fought the fed government every step of the way. At least now we have collaboration which should have happened long ago but both sides were too petty.

The whole MP's going to homeless shelters thing is a good idea a lot of them already do this but for Rudd to publicize it is brilliant media usage.

As for the computers for every school is it an ongoing program where they are updated every couple of years? It is good for students to become tech savvy.

The thing to watch out for now(or the following years more likely) is sneaky tax increases

numbercruncher said:

Yes so its access to for every student in nine to 12 as opposed to all students receiving a laptop, so nothing reneged yet!

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To summarise - the word "access" completely overrides "their own computer".

It is a great use of weasel words that Howard and the Coalition were always being lambasted for. Looks like they've learnt well in opposition.

Duckman

numbercruncher said:

I hope wall to wall works as well, cant be any worse than whats been going down for the last umpteen years.

If wall to wall doesnt work, well state elections just vote em out , the voters obviously dont comepletely blame teh state Governments or they would of been ousted already surely ?

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You obviously don't live in Queensland do you Numbercruncher?

The only thing more useless and unappealing than the State Government is the opposition. As we speak we have 8 members locked in a room trying to work out who is going to lead - and they can't even get that right (4 against 4)!!!! You speak as if you truely believe that the problems with the States is the Federal Government. I've got news for you NC - Qld is in a shambles - you pick a public sector and it has problems - and it hasn't been all Howards fault.

Its too easy to say "things will be different now". And statements like that just validates people like Beattie who presided over the shambles. Federal Labor says that Howard didn't make the most of the boom times - what about Beattie and Qld Labor. The mining boom has provided millions to Qld over the past 7 years!!

Raining here in S,E Qld,....

Ruddie you legend !!! And after only 3 days

Well, I'm also in S.E. Qld. and there is bright sunshine here. Does that mean Mr Rudd is only sending down the rain on those who voted for him?

Hi Duckman,


Actually I live in the GC Hinterland, I know we are plagued with problems, Its seems nationwide to me,and lets hope Ruddy will stick with the end of the blame game pledge. Nothing needs more attention than the health system .....

But what do we expect, ive seen the GC population go from about 100k to well over 500k in like 10 years, what do you do ban new arrivals ? Were already operating at like full capacity this stuff simply cant be fixed over night its surely got to take a decade and by then at current growth rates the population largely fueled by retirees is likely to swell even further swamping a already well over burdoned hospital system. The politicians realise its population growth thats putting Infrastructure under such demand, I remember reading a while ago Beatie saying he didnt want anymore people moving to se Qld unless they had a skill to offer that the state needed ...

There's no quick fix, but SE qld in my opinion is still the greatest place on the planet - just getting a bit too crowded now, who let the secret out!

Julia said:

Well, I'm also in S.E. Qld. and there is bright sunshine here. Does that mean Mr Rudd is only sending down the rain on those who voted for him?

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Ha ha!! I think you're right Julia. No rain here either.