KEVIN RUDD - Wins the Australian Federal election!

[ithatheekret]

chit happens

 

[numbercruncher]

They should just sack Nelson, Abott and Downer and rebuild the party under Turnbull and come back wit ha fresh competitive crew in two or three elections time. Competition is good for Aussie politics but the Liberals have just been banished as a muppet pack - they need to sort it out.

 

[SevenFX]

Hope Vanstone has her return ticket booked back from ROME, for being a bad polly... both seats at her expense... bloddy raught sending her to ROME...

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21145822-12854,00.html

 

[ithatheekret]

Well yesterday , I was cut off by a glimmering silver Statesman on the Kapunda road coming into Gawler . The driver sure looked like A.V. and turned towards the Roseworthy direction ......... perhaps a jaunt to Wasleys to pick up the Kranskis .............. or to make sure next years batch is fattening up nicely .

 

[chops_a_must]

Before everyone gets too carried away about Mr Rudd's concern for the disadvantaged of our society, I'd point out that he - like Liberal - has ruled out increasing the rate of the Single Aged Pension. This is below the poverty line. Many of these people have no savings so will not benefit from any tax cuts. We should not be perpetuating middle class welfare with non-means-tested rebates in various areas while our elderly are struggling.

Like I said previously Julia, older Australians voted for Howard in droves. So there was no point offering them anything...

 

[Duckman#72]

Sorry Julia I simply dont get your argument.

I cant find anywhere a mention of Students being given their own computer as you suggest, only all years 9 to 12 having access to a computer and a means tested rebate for such purchases of such equipment.

If you think 30m a week might be on offer the world sure has gone backwards, we got more than that 20 years ago ....

What are you saying Numbercruncher? Have a listen to yourself.

Basically what you have just said is that the cornerstone to Kev's "Education Revolution" is an extension to 20 year old policy.

If 20 years ago students had "access to their own computer" for 30 minutes a week or more. How far have we progressed? You have just highlighted my argument about weasel words.

Both Paul Keating and John Howard could have made the same claim leading into an election over the past 20 years as Kevin did - and he would have been correct in doing so!!!

Surely you must not be serious when you say you cannot see Julia's argument.

It is like saying every high school student in Australia will be able to read their own copy of Ernest Hemmingway's "Old Man and the Sea" (fantastic book by the way).......and then stocking the library with three copies. Due to weasel words you have technically done what you said - but is it in the spirit of it???!!!

If you have no intension of giving students "their own" computer then don't say it.......but it doesn't sound nearly as impressive does it.

Duckman

 

[2020hindsight]

Let's hope there are no more episodes of "Yes Minister" in the offing

(speaking of weasel words)

(PS Chasers is on lol - gr8 stuff)

 

[robots]

hello,

looks like the market took another belting thanks to ruddie,

more to come probably, also at least JH kept the lid on petrol prices, look at them today 1.45/l, JH stood up to the oil companies

inflation is going to go ballistix now ruddie is at the helm

thankyou

robots

 

[numbercruncher]

Nope i cant see what either of you are saying, you are both saying he said something that he didnt say, there was no free computer for every Aussie Kid to personally own (I think thats what you guys think ?) if you guys didnt understand the policy why are you arguing to me about it ? why dont you write Mr Rudd a letter and complain that his command of English sucks if thats what you feel.

I clearly Understood that he said that years 9 to 12 will all have access to their own school computer (ie/ not sharing I guess), I understand 1m to each school to facilitate this, Obviously there is a shortage of PCs in School or this policy never would of been offered so perhaps we can blame the last Gov for that, after all Howard probably didnt know what a PC was, I seriously do not understand what you two are going on about so we may as well just drop the subject


Maybe you guys are looking for early Labor backflips ? If you are Ill help you, looks like a backflip on the proposed Department of Homeland Security ..... But it was a crap Idea anyway .... imho

 

[2020hindsight]

hello,

looks like the market took another belting thanks to ruddie,

more to come probably, also at least JH kept the lid on petrol prices, look at them today 1.45/l, JH stood up to the oil companies

inflation is going to go ballistix now ruddie is at the helm

thankyou

robots

I 've worked it out!!
You're one of the Chasers aren't you robots !!

 

[robots]

hello,

another great day for melbourne, increased PTC fares, any improvements in service? no way

shows the direction of labor govs, least JH & costello give tax cuts, nothings gets cut in Melbourne

thankyou

robots

 

[numbercruncher]

Hello Robots,


Your new Boss is a Queenslander so we get all the Juice now, Just increase Melbourne prices to pay for it hehe.

Its true isnt it, youre one of the Chasers ?


PS. Tax cuts add to Inflation, Inflation causes Interest rate rises, then you complain about them too ..... what do you prefer Higher tax or Higher Interest rates ?

 

[2020hindsight]

gee robots -
you're getting ahead of yourself man,
shame you missed chasers...
You'd have seen Jackie Kelly coming pretty close to an apology for blatant racism

 

[robots]

hello,

well lets just see where things end in 5 or so years, not of to good start with petrol prices hitting 1.45/l, costello would of been knocking them down, havent heard much from swann!

come to think of it, is swann still around, not an enpowering figure, look at the work costello done on keeping the banks under control with the proposed IR rises

the banks will lift more now,

actually, i am not complaining about interest rates as they arent really a concern to anyone

thaankyou

robots

 

[Duckman#72]

I clearly Understood that he said that years 9 to 12 will all have access to their own school computer (ie/ not sharing I guess),

Eureka!!! He gets it!!!

That is the backdown Numbercruncher - the students will be sharing. There is no computer for EACH student.

Duckman

 

[2020hindsight]

costello would of been knocking them down,

robots
I fully realise that you and nc are just trying to annoy julia , but try "would have" occasionally

 

[2020hindsight]

Eureka!!! He gets it!!!

That is the backdown Numbercruncher - the students will be sharing. There is no computer for EACH student.

Duckman

duck , is that sharing concurrently , or sharing staggered in time
in which case , what's the difference ?

(PS I hear you about the weasel words - but I seriously don't think it's an important point as long as kids have computers when they need em)

 

[>Apocalypto<]

I voted family first so don't look at me!

 

[Duckman#72]

duck , is that sharing concurrently , or sharing staggered in time
in which case , what's the difference ?

(PS I hear you about the weasel words - but I seriously don't think it's an important point as long as kids have computers when they need em)

Hi 2020

I am not sure. But my point - which Numbercruncher has assisted me with - was that for the past 20 years kids have had "access" to a computer at school (shared either concurrently or staggered).

Look I think it's great that the Government are purchasing computers - don't get me wrong. But it was those kinds of weasel words that Numbercruncher and Chops would jump all over the Coalition about 6 months ago!!! I am just getting into the hang of "being in opposition" and "keeping the bastards honest"!!

Duckman

 

[numbercruncher]

Eureka!!! He gets it!!!

That is the backdown Numbercruncher - the students will be sharing. There is no computer for EACH student.

Duckman

If you feel you won this discussion and you feel better i am happy for you, I understood this policy for what it was and how it was intended, Kids will have access to their own computer when needed, no sharing, they wont need them in a Physical Education class or whilst on trips to the science Museum. When I was at school we got a few hours a week sharing a PC, I bet it hasnt changed much since then in many schools , this will remedy the situation.

1m can buy alot of Computers, most Schools wont need anywhere near that much, might be a a boon for PC retailers though!