Ideally, yes. But - given the massive amount of education out there and the relentlessly increasing obesity - it just ain't working.I'm of the view that the role of taxes should be first and foremost the simple and efficient collection of tax.
Influencing what people do and do not eat is in my view not a primary role of tax collection. That perhaps belongs more in the area of education.
There was an interesting story on obesity on Catalyst last nightObesity is the cause of so many diseases. If it were possible to counteract the trend, that would probably save more in health funds than any broadening of the GST.
There was an interesting story on obesity on Catalyst last night
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/3821440.htm
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Basically increased sugar in the food supply increases insulin which increases fat deposition. Sugar also suppresses Ghrelin(the full feeling) which increases appetite and consumption.What was the basic hypothesis?
Rudd to include food in GST and increase rate to 25%
Increases price of a jar of Vegemite by $3
No dutchie, it is the Coalition who want to but they said they would look at it at the next election not this one. Rudd is saying if you vote coalition, then GST will be put on food.
No dutchie, it is the Coalition who want to but they said they would look at it at the next election not this one. Rudd is saying if you vote coalition, then GST will be put on food.
Agree. Interesting that they think this sort of scare tactic would work.Rudd is using scare tactics again. Why can't he tell the truth for once. The coalition will not increase the GST in its first term but it will be reviewed and if it is agreed upon, it will be put to the people in 2016 to decide at the ballot box.
Hasn't a review (independent I think) already taken place and the findings clearly showed that something like 80%+ of price hikes have occurred due to maintenance & installation costs with some suggesting excessive "gold-plating", and that the carbon tax has added somewhere around 10%? Never good to hear someone's gone out of business. Always disappointing to hear misdirected anger.I would prefer him to sit down with a trusted economist and do the equation on what his Carbon Dioxide tax has added to the cost of living, starting with electricity which affects every business. I heard of a small Brumby bakery whose electricity went from $800 to $1000 per month.
And what Abbott's not telling us is that if catastrophic climate change occurs the cost is going to be significantly more. If you support action on carbon emissions what policy would you prefer noco? If not, then it doesn't matter what the price is you're going to think Rudd is wasting our time and money, and likewise must think Abbott's direct action policy is a waste of money also.He made a big deal out of his announcement that he is scrapping the carbon tax and reverting to the ETS one year earlier. What he is not telling us is the ETS could rise from $6 per tonne to $38 per tonne in a few years.
No dutchie, it is the Coalition who want to but they said they would look at it at the next election not this one. Rudd is saying if you vote coalition, then GST will be put on food.
I saw it too Macca. It was excellent. Worth 15 minutes watching it everyone. I plan to change my diet slightly and I am a pretty healthy eater.
And I'm saying Labor will put a GST on food if they win.
I skimmed the story. What was said about insulin levels and carbohydrates is misleading. I noticed the names of Gary Taubes and Lustig. Taubes' theories are controversial and he is well known to quote other authors out of context. I am surprised that Catalyst allowed this faddish pseudo-science into a mainstream science program. This dis-information is just the familiar dogma for the very low carbohydrate "paleo" diet.
Btw, if fructose is so bad for you, then fruit must also be bad for you.
Rudd to include food in GST and increase rate to 25%
Increases price of a jar of Vegemite by $3
Knobby, dutchie's post was surely tongue in cheek. No one would be suggesting including food and increasing the rate to 25%.No dutchie, it is the Coalition who want to but they said they would look at it at the next election not this one. Rudd is saying if you vote coalition, then GST will be put on food.
+1. Minus 10 to Catalyst in this instance.I skimmed the story. What was said about insulin levels and carbohydrates is misleading. I noticed the names of Gary Taubes and Lustig. Taubes' theories are controversial and he is well known to quote other authors out of context. I am surprised that Catalyst allowed this faddish pseudo-science into a mainstream science program. This dis-information is just the familiar dogma for the very low carbohydrate "paleo" diet.
Btw, if fructose is so bad for you, then fruit must also be bad for you.
Agree. Interesting that they think this sort of scare tactic would work.
Hasn't a review (independent I think) already taken place and the findings clearly showed that something like 80%+ of price hikes have occurred due to maintenance & installation costs with some suggesting excessive "gold-plating", and that the carbon tax has added somewhere around 10%? Never good to hear someone's gone out of business. Always disappointing to hear misdirected anger.
And what Abbott's not telling us is that if catastrophic climate change occurs the cost is going to be significantly more. If you support action on carbon emissions what policy would you prefer noco? If not, then it doesn't matter what the price is you're going to think Rudd is wasting our time and money, and likewise must think Abbott's direct action policy is a waste of money also.
And yes, Rudd is attempting to spin any and all policies on pricing carbon. You're absolutely right. Don't trust the spin he tries to put on the policy, simply read the policy itself.
Fruit isn't bad for you but drinking the fruit equivalent of 30 pieces of fruit is. Watch the doco. then decide.
Over indulging in any food will put a strain on the body, whether it be fat, sugar or protein. Who regularly drinks 4 plus Litres of fruit juice at a time? The excess water would be more of a worry.
Dr Lustig has asserted that "fructose is alcohol without the buzz" - basic organic chemistry fail.
I understand this is off topic and I don't mean to divert the thread, I just can't let this one go without pointing out the pseudo-science involved.
Knobby, dutchie's post was surely tongue in cheek. No one would be suggesting including food and increasing the rate to 25%.
I read his post as the very accurate observation that Rudd is raising a completely baseless scare campaign on the GST directed toward the Abbott side, and that it would make as much sense to suggest Rudd himself is intending to raise the GST to 25%.
I don't know how they can engage in this sort of completely dishonest obfuscation. Mr Abbott has absolutely clearly ruled out any change to the GST in this term if he is elected. He has simply agreed that we need an overall thorough look at the whole tax system which would quite obviously include the GST.
The Henry Review largely did this, but the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd government chose to ignore that useful document because it didn't suit their political purposes at the time.
+1. Minus 10 to Catalyst in this instance.
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