Kevin Rudd for PM

[drsmith]

What Rudd will do is anyone's guess.

If he's happy to lead Labor in opposition, he's a complete fruitcake.

 

[Logique]

..If Gillard loses, as almost certainly she will, I wouldn't have thought she has the personality to retire to the back bench, and will rather exit politics..

There's a world of quango's and lobby groups out there for her. She's already started working on this, there'll be more invites for dinner with the PM. Board memberships (shudder), diplomatic posts (shudder).

It's awkward for Rudd, what is there left to do. The hope of being PM again looks gone. He'll rekindle his ambitions at the UN I guess.

 

[moXJO]

Were Rudd and his supporters setup. Rudd backers have pretty much been cleared out.

 

[drsmith]

Were Rudd and his supporters setup. Rudd backers have pretty much been cleared out.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Simon Crean in the month ahead.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...the-election-already-lost-20130322-2glcv.html

 

[dutchie]

Rudd is so much like Gillard - just interested in themselves.

What a hypocritical weasel.

I feel sorry for Crean and Ferguson - giving up their careers for these two.

The Labor party is shot to pieces. It will be in their own interests to lose power so that they can start rebuilding.

 

[MrBurns]

Rudd is so much like Gillard - just interested in themselves.

What a hypocritical weasel.

I feel sorry for Crean and Ferguson - giving up their careers for these two.

The Labor party is shot to pieces. It will be in their own interests to lose power so that they can start rebuilding.

Think of the poor trusting Labor supporters who looked at Rudd as the saviour, must have been a million of them at least from the polls...........

hypocritical weasel

exactly.

 

[Julia]

Were Rudd and his supporters setup. Rudd backers have pretty much been cleared out.

Seems like it, doesn't it. This was suggested yesterday by one of the many commentators, i.e. that Crean agreed to be the sacrificial lamb. If this was indeed the strategy, it has worked well for Gillard. She was incredibly cool throughout.

I feel sorry for Crean and Ferguson - giving up their careers for these two.

Agree. What talent there was in the party is now sitting on the back bench.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: Kevin Rudd

Kevin Rudd has lost any pretence of statesmanship, leadership or loyalty to the ALP.

Simon Crean asserts that Rudd knew of Crean's call for a spill on Julia Gillard's leadership.

Sacked minister Simon Crean, who sparked Labor's leadership crisis this week, says Kevin Rudd's camp had fully endorsed his intervention to demand the Prime Minister call a spill.
His account directly contradicts the version of Mr Rudd, who on Friday said he had ''not expected the spontaneous combustion of Mr Crean's'' demand for a ballot, and promised he would never again seek the leadership.
Mr Rudd's last-minute decision to back out of a challenge has led to bitter recriminations among his supporters, with Mr Crean describing Mr Rudd's key support group as ''disorganised, unbelievable and shameless''.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...move--crean-20130322-2glci.html#ixzz2OKApARj3

I doubt if Rudd will even hold his seat in Griffith at the September Federal election after this display of cretinous inept litany lies.

gg

 

[drsmith]

Re: Kevin Rudd

Simon Crean asserts that Rudd knew of Crean's call for a spill on Julia Gillard's leadership.

The answers about Simon's loyalties will become clearer if/when Julia Gillard restores him to the front bench.

In my view, he either wanted the leadership issue simply resolved (as he said) or was acting for team Gillard. He definitely wasn't acting for Kevin Rudd.

 

[tinhat]

To an outsider who doesn't really pay much attention to the government and the players, it does look as though it has imploded this weekend. Ferguson, Crean, Bowen and a few others (whips and secretaries) are all gone or about to go.

Don't care much about Kerry Carr, his industry policy was dreadful. But then Howard started the rot later in his government which labour and Carr continued in terms of giving in to industry rent seeking and vote buying popularism. (At some stage the ghost of Black Jack McEwen must have found his way into the corridors of the new parliament house).

Although I argue that people place far too much importance on government, a fallacy fuelled by politics as entertainment by the media, this lame duck government is going to be a drag on the market until the election.

 

[DB008]

What talent there was in the party is now sitting on the back bench.

And just goes to show that the pollies are more interested in their own ego's/power trips, than running the country and really doing what they got voted in for.

 

[Smurf1976]

One thing all this does do is highlight the value of the states. Whilst it is often argued that we don't need three levels of government, let's face reality. The states are the only ones doing any actual governing of significance at the moment.

Australian government - basically it's become paralysed and is ineffective.

Local government - there are exceptions but most are too concerned about what colour the fence is or how high the trees are to be worried about any issues of real significance.

Which leaves the states as the only thing we have which resembles an actual government at the moment. Sure, there is a cost to having multiple layers of government but I'm starting to consider that in the context of it being insurance rather than waste.

 

[drsmith]

Does anyone have any idea what Michael Smith in on about in the following video,



http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/03/what-happened/comments/page/2/#comments

 

[tinhat]

And just goes to show that the pollies are more interested in their own ego's/power trips, than running the country and really doing what they got voted in for.

Wow, have you just discovered that people eat muesli for breakfast too?

 

[DB008]

Wow, have you just discovered that people eat muesli for breakfast too?

Wow. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Julia]

In today's Galaxy poll - in answer to the question "How would you describe Kevin Rudd in the leadership spill?" - 55% said he had been 'honourable and true to his word'.

His fans still refuse to recognise that he just didn't have the numbers, and are happy to leave him on the moral high ground.

 

[Calliope]

This morning Bolt tried to draw Tony Abbott out on how he could put his expected large majority in the September election to good use by being a little daring. Bolt was interested in how Abbott would pull the unions into line, and what he would do to reduce the numbers of 2 million public servants and 4 million on some form of welfare or pension.

Abbott wimped out. He doesn't want to be seen as courageous. Newman in Queensland made courageous decisions, and the polls show it, but he has two years to make them work.

Sir Humphrey: If you want to be really sure that the minister doesn't accept it you must say the decision is courageous.
Bernard: And that’s worse than controversial?
Sir Humphrey: Controversial only means this will lose you votes, courageous means this will lose you the election

.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: Chicken Kev

In today's Galaxy poll - in answer to the question "How would you describe Kevin Rudd in the leadership spill?" - 55% said he had been 'honourable and true to his word'.

His fans still refuse to recognise that he just didn't have the numbers, and are happy to leave him on the moral high ground.

Agree Julia,

Chicken Kev has many fans among swinging voters.

The moral high ground hopefully for the country will remain firm until an elected Coalition can throw him a fish head such as a European or UN post.

Never has one so talentless and with such a challenged personality risen so high.

It is not for nought that Chicken Kev was known as Dr.Death in the Queensland Public Service and ALP when Wayne Goss was Premier.

Chicken Kev unfortunately in the short term is here to stay. The ALP are welcome to him. He undermined people before, during and after the time he was Prime Minister.

gg

 

[drsmith]

Re: Chicken Kev

Never has one so talentless and with such a challenged personality risen so high.

He had enough public charisma for a complacent electorate to remove a tired Howard government and that's it. As time has shown, there was little substance underneath, a lot like Labor's time in office since 2007.

 

[dutchie]

Does anyone have any idea what Michael Smith in on about in the following video,



http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2013/03/what-happened/comments/page/2/#comments

Albanese has got to go (one way or the other) on Monday????