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CanOz said:
Ahh i see TS, but they don't mention that these days we have better "eyes"...

The concept of crowd sourcing this is great idea. They then use statistics to narrow down the possibilities. I don't even know where i'm searching, so they could have any number of eyes searching many many random blocks in many search areas. Once they get a number of hits in that area they start to look closer. In reality in makes more sense than using ships and aircraft, which is like looking for a needle in a haystack...
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They used the "crowd search" method to try and find an American pilot who crashed in the woods somewhere, and it was reckoned they got so many false leads it wasn't worth the trouble.
 
rumpole said:
They used the "crowd search" method to try and find an American pilot who crashed in the woods somewhere, and it was reckoned they got so many false leads it wasn't worth the trouble.
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Well i fly a fair bit Rumphole, so maybe it just makes me feel better;)
 
trainspotter said:
Read somewhere that the search is similar in size to trying to find a 5 cent piece on the MCG from 100 metres in the air ! :eek:
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To put it into perspective, the search area is apparently now equivalent to the entire land area of Victoria. Or you could say that it's a third the size of NSW or 4 times the size of Tas. However you put it, that's a huge area to be looking for bits of a plane and that's assuming that there's actually a plane to be found and that it's in the area they are looking for it.

The longer it takes to find, the harder it will be I'd think. Eg if there's a fuel leak then initially that will float on water (jet fuel floats, it doesn't mix with the water) but it also evaporates reasonably quickly so after a while there will be no oil slick even if there was one at some point. Also if there's small bits floating then waves etc will move them around on the water. And then there's the reported 1 month life of the batteries in the "black box" after which it stops transmitting its' location. So the longer it takes, the harder it's going to be to find it.

One thing I'm thinking, is that to assist in any future searches it would be sensible to paint all planes in colours that contrast strongly with the natural environment. Colours that stand out against either a water or land background. Eg a bright yellow plane would be easier to spot amongst forest or in the water than a green or blue one. It might not have helped in this case, the plane seems to be mostly white anyway, but it would seem a logical thing to do in a broader sense to not allow any airline to paint their planes in colours that blend in with the natural environment. Same logic as road workers etc wearing bright coloured clothing to make them more visible. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
To put it into perspective, the search area is apparently now equivalent to the entire land area of Victoria. Or you could say that it's a third the size of NSW or 4 times the size of Tas. However you put it, that's a huge area to be looking for bits of a plane and that's assuming that there's actually a plane to be found and that it's in the area they are looking for it.

The longer it takes to find, the harder it will be I'd think. Eg if there's a fuel leak then initially that will float on water (jet fuel floats, it doesn't mix with the water) but it also evaporates reasonably quickly so after a while there will be no oil slick even if there was one at some point. Also if there's small bits floating then waves etc will move them around on the water. And then there's the reported 1 month life of the batteries in the "black box" after which it stops transmitting its' location. So the longer it takes, the harder it's going to be to find it.

One thing I'm thinking, is that to assist in any future searches it would be sensible to paint all planes in colours that contrast strongly with the natural environment. Colours that stand out against either a water or land background. Eg a bright yellow plane would be easier to spot amongst forest or in the water than a green or blue one. It might not have helped in this case, the plane seems to be mostly white anyway, but it would seem a logical thing to do in a broader sense to not allow any airline to paint their planes in colours that blend in with the natural environment. Same logic as road workers etc wearing bright coloured clothing to make them more visible. :2twocents
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The problem I have with the report of it going down in the straits of Malacca, have you been there?

It is busier than Sydney Harbour, I would be very suprised if it went down in that area, without anyone seeing it.
 
Having sailed a yacht through the Strait of Malacca and the South China Sea I am perplexed as to how little they have actually found? The water is littered with all kinds of flotsam and jetsam ranging from semi submerged sea containers to frickin tennis balls that turn into sea snakes. Also the amount of vessels in the area that have not seen anything just goes to prove my thesis that there is no one on watch on the container ships as we were nearly run over on several occasions by ships with NO navigation lights. :eek:

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Chinese sat images of unidentified wreckage in the original search area and an unidentified aircraft confirmed by Malaysia flying westward away from where the commercial flight disappeared makes me wonder whether it was shot down.

There's also this,

IN what could be the last chilling sighting of missing Flight MH370, an oil rig worker believes he spotted the Malaysia Airlines jetliner burst into flames on Saturday morning.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/oi...urst-into-flames/story-fni0fiyv-1226853400785

Whether by terrorism or internal structural failure, it's looking increasingly like something went horribly wrong in flight over the South China Sea.
 
trainspotter said:
The only nice thing about that yacht delivery was getting off the damn thing in Bali. :mad:

Latest news is they reckon a Chinese satellite has picked up a possible crash site and a NZ man on an oil rig has claimed he saw the plane on fire then disappearing ?

http://www.news.com.au/world/oil-ri...urst-into-flames/story-fndir2ev-1226853302184
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That report does tend to reflect badly on the search organisers.:2twocents

Jeez trainspotter, relocating yachts, not bad for a day job, lucky sod.:xyxthumbs
 
trainspotter said:
The only nice thing about that yacht delivery was getting off the damn thing in Bali. :mad:

Latest news is they reckon a Chinese satellite has picked up a possible crash site and a NZ man on an oil rig has claimed he saw the plane on fire then disappearing ?

http://www.news.com.au/world/oil-ri...urst-into-flames/story-fndir2ev-1226853302184
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rumpole said:
Oil rig worker says he spotted plane on fire

http://www.news.com.au/world/oil-ri...urst-into-flames/story-fndir2ev-1226853302184

Sorry, Dr Smith beat me to it
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*AHEM* ;)
 
This is getting murky !!!!!!!

The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.

"We continue to monitor the situation and to offer Malaysia Airlines our support," a Rolls-Royce representative said Wednesday, declining further comment.

"The disappearance is officially now an accident and all information about this is strictly handled by investigators," said a Rolls-Royce executive who declined to be named, citing rules of the International Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency.

As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.

Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."

The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.

A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282
 

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