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SirRumpole said:
Don't bet on that. More than a few welfare cheats have many possibly stolen identities that they can claim welfare on, and that's not just Muslims.
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I'm sure there are some, many, a lot, of welfare cheats. But...

The solution isn't a blanketed demolition of it. Or just cutting it, or to reduced and demonising those who are on it.

I'm not saying that that's your suggestion. But that's the conclusion we're led to when we read all these facts and figures and dog whistlings. That all these public services are just not well managed that it's wasted on cheats and lazy no good bums; or for things for people you can't make that case - like kids education, help for the seniors... then it just costs way too much - who's going to pay for that.

Then there's the good old "we're not commies are we" argument. Individualism, capitalism, rich user pay once, poorer taxpayers pay twice or thrice kind of argument.

In short, there are laws against welfare cheats and other criminals.. if the commentators and other paid stooges in the media are so concern about the rorting, forward the evidence to the appropriate authorities.
 
noco said:
No Lu...Not me.....That came from Rumpy....Luu they threw the mold away when they created me.
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They threw away defective molds did they? :D

Ey, I wasn't sure if you were self-deprecating or egoistic about your uniqueness.
 
luutzu said:
In short, there are laws against welfare cheats and other criminals.. if the commentators and other paid stooges in the media are so concern about the rorting, forward the evidence to the appropriate authorities.
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I think we need to design a system that is hard to rort in the first place rather than spending resources trying to catch the system abusers. Random audits with tough penalties (including gaol) is usually a good way of ensuring people don't abuse a system. Maybe it's already happening.
 
SirRumpole said:
I think we need to design a system that is hard to rort in the first place rather than spending resources trying to catch the system abusers. Random audits with tough penalties (including gaol) is usually a good way of ensuring people don't abuse a system. Maybe it's already happening.
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VOTE 1 PAULINE HANSON......Pauline for Prime Mimister...Pauline will be the answer to your prayer....She is offering everything to fulfill your wishes.
 
noco said:
VOTE 1 PAULINE HANSON......Pauline for Prime Mimister...Pauline will be the answer to your prayer....She is offering everything to fulfill your wishes.
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Everything! Wow. Has she got a daughter?
 
noco said:
VOTE 1 PAULINE HANSON......Pauline for Prime Mimister...Pauline will be the answer to your prayer....She is offering everything to fulfill your wishes.
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Judging by the degenerates she put into the Senate, it would be good night Australia if she formed government.

Just because you can spot what is perceived by some to be an issue and have a whinge about it doesn't mean you can fix it. If it were that easy we'd be run by talkback radio hosts and tabloid columnists.
 
SirRumpole said:
I think we need to design a system that is hard to rort in the first place rather than spending resources trying to catch the system abusers. Random audits with tough penalties (including gaol) is usually a good way of ensuring people don't abuse a system. Maybe it's already happening.
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Heard on the news last week or so that CentreLink have use some not-so-nice tactics and overclaim what they think is owed to them. Caught a bit of ABC where some guy said he was sent a bill for $27K and after going through a bit of hell, turns out he only owe them $57.

So I think we can all sleep well at night knowing that the nanny state is generous, but no pushovers. Some might say she's a bit nasty, but nice. :D
 
luutzu said:
So I think we can all sleep well at night knowing that the nanny state is generous, but no pushovers. Some might say she's a bit nasty, but nice.
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They went after the wrong people and should have got their facts straight before sending out nasty letters.

If I was a Centrelink beneficiary wrongly accused of owing them money , I might take a trip to a lawyer and ask about a harassment lawsuit.
 
McLovin said:
Judging by the degenerates she put into the Senate, it would be good night Australia if she formed government.

Just because you can spot what is perceived by some to be an issue and have a whinge about it doesn't mean you can fix it. If it were that easy we'd be run by talkback radio hosts and tabloid columnists.
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Paiuine did not put them in the senate, the people did.

But you must agree you Labor lefties and the Liberal ding bats in parliament are running scared of Pauline.s resurrection and will throw all the dirt they can.....I bet the Labor Party's propaganda machine GETUP and the ABC is working overtime in readiness for the Queensland state election
 
noco said:
Paiuine did not put them in the senate, the people did.
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Rubbish. You really think those One Nation voters had any idea they were voting for a crook, and a conspiracy nut with a Napoleon complex? If they did and they still voted for them then we're in even more ****.

noco said:
But you must agree you Labor lefties and the Liberal ding bats in parliament are running scared of Pauline.s resurrection and will throw all the dirt they can.....I bet the Labor Party's propaganda machine GETUP and the ABC is working overtime in readiness for the Queensland state election
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Can't you get some new material? Even prop comedy is more entertaining than your act.
 
McLovin said:
Rubbish. You really think those One Nation voters had any idea they were voting for a crook, and a conspiracy nut with a Napoleon complex? If they did and they still voted for them then we're in even more ****.



Can't you get some new material? Even prop comedy is more entertaining than your act.
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Did the Labor voters have any idea who they were voting for when they elected Labor MP crooks?
Craig Thomson
Gordon Nuttall
Sam Dastyari
Eddie Obeid
Ian Mac Donald.
Do some of your own research and you will find plenty more including Liberal and Nationals , but you will find they are predominantly Labor.
 
noco said:
You are rally something aren't you?.....One sided or lope sided I am not sure witch.
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What are you on about? I'm saying no one pays much attention to who they are voting for when they vote for a party, especially in the Senate. Pauline picked her crew of battlers and the punters voted for "One Nation" because they love Pauline. The same happens with Labor/Liberal/Greens/Xenophon/National whatever voters. Get it? It's not that complicated. FFS.

Why do you have such a complete lack of ability to follow a simple conversation?
 
McLovin said:
What are you on about? I'm saying no one pays much attention to who they are voting for when they vote for a party, especially in the Senate. Pauline picked her crew of battlers and the punters voted for "One Nation" because they love Pauline. Get it? It's not that complicated. FFS.

Why do you have such a complete lack of ability to follow a simple conversation?
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Simple conversation????......The Pot calling the kettle black.....You ridiculed people for voting in a One Nation crook but you can't take it when Labor crooks are mentioned....You have just contradicted yourself in the usual megalomaniac way.
 
SirRumpole said:
They went after the wrong people and should have got their facts straight before sending out nasty letters.

If I was a Centrelink beneficiary wrongly accused of owing them money , I might take a trip to a lawyer and ask about a harassment lawsuit.
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Strange that innocent people have to prove their innocence.
 
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