The sad reality is that we're screwing the planet (and again, climate change isn't the big problem)
I would agree in the context of species destruction, but totally disagree the climate change is NOT the biggest long term problem.
The myth is that CO2 is the primary driver of climate change
You ignore 50% more acid in the oceans, levels rising the most in 5,000 years and 1 metre by 2100 v 1900 is the IPCC estimate. 20 metres without action by 2200
The myth is that CO2 is the primary driver of climate change (some climate scientists do make this claim, some don't, I disagree with the ones which do make that claim, and it is very easy to debunk it. I can go through evidence for this if you wish).
You have and it ignores ICE cores going back 1 million years with tiny air bubbles with CO2 gas showing we were in the 200 to 370 PPM CO2 for a MILLION YEARS. You ignore the sun and earth going around the sun every 41,000 years has a wobble at its extreme and less sun Hits the surface. You ignore all fossil records of past events. And seamlessly tie events from 100 million and even 600 million years ago as occurring in the past 10k or 100k years to suit your dogmas.
Looking only slightly further back, we see such extreme climate change that within very short periods of time, the climate changed so much that sea levels changed so much that you could literally walk from Australia to PNG on dry land
I did point out the last ICE event occurred and I agree not CO2 related but during a WOBBLE of the earth around the sun that we KNOW via ICE BUBBLES ... when CO2 levels due to MEGA fauna ... were near 1 million YEAR LOWS. Less irradiance, less stopping it from getting out of the atmosphere ... the HEAT ... called CO2 ... and as such ... ICE TIME. Oh and the sea levels when one looks DID NOT FALL 120 metres. LAND as tectonic plates hit and forced whole continents to rise and fall . Mountains where they were once seabeds. If one IGNORES this as you seem to .. come up with absurd rises ... AND falls of 120 meters in SEAS. Anything is possible.
Do you need any more of an obvious slap in the face to alert you to the reality that you are allowing yourself to be controlled by the media?
Yes conspiracy theory number 22 !! Thanks ... next.
It presumably didn't happen within decades, but entire cycles of going from one state to another extreme and back (like, sea levels higher than current to low enough to join major land masses and all the way back up within 1-2 thousand years, and perhaps much much faster, and it seems most likely to have been much much faster but no one was there taking measurements more than a couple hundred years ago).
Yep the 41,000 year cycle around the sun ... the extremes tend to do that. So too ICE ages and short ones wiping out Oxygen producing regions covered with ice and the CO2 balance goes from one end of the 200 to 380 range ina short period. WE. ... are clearly outside that NOW .... first time in a million years. But you of course dispute this as being any concern, or the ocean acidity up 50% in 40 years, as it tries to absorb CO2 or the carbon and nope fossils of past events, even white layers of dissolved calcium carbonate from previous massive CO2 driven events, not relevant to your theories.
Don't know when that will, if ever occur. Your views changing.
Meanwhile the Great Barrier Reef 25% of the 1980 size due to extreme temperature events on the main, and YEP a bit of the human sort for the 700 out of 3,000 reefs closer to land, we have all 3,000 reefs, all of them 100% of them with Bleaching and death ranging from extreme in the North, less effected by human stuff, they are all in extreme BLEACH and death mode ... to the southern ones now with a 100% bleaching on a lessor level.
120,000 years ago the sea level was about 5 metres higher than today. 20,000 years ago it was about 120 ***METRES*** lower than that
Sadly delusional ... a gem ... since I visted recently the Rock Art near Karatha in WA the oldest rock carvings and also Seas shell mounds dated 25,000 to 40,000 years old. Located on the seashore ... Near the current Pluto Gas plant if your looking ... did they walk 50 km to the level of the seas your alluding to, bring the shells back and deposit them ?
Celestial impacts have occurred many times to varying levels of severity before. I'm not even bothering to hypothesise about future ones, I was talking about previous ones which have done extreme things to the climate, and the climate then returns to normal. The point, which you somehow missed despite it being completely obvious, which was in direct response to the explicit question, was that after it has happened (as in, the actual examples which have already occurred), the climate returns to the normal range. Honestly, I'd struggle to pretend to miss the point as much as you actually do.
Last one was 65 million years ago ... lowest estimate on the recovery was 800,000 Years and it took about 35,000 after the meteor struck to make over 50% of species extinct. We pass the latter milestone in a mere 200 years of modern man, and 800,000 years involved massive CO2 capture naturally the last time via plants being trapped which are NOW oil and COAL deposits.
Then again, You don't believe CO2 or carbon is an issue ... past OR present.
*since accurate records began... decades ago - yes, it is changing more rapidly than at any point in the last century, but while we don't have any accurate records, it probably isn't changing more rapidly than at any point in the last 1,000 years (climate scientists are divided on this point) and it definitely isn't changing more rapidly than at any point in the last 10,000 years (the vast majority of climate scientists agree on this and the only ones who don't are a very small number of exceptionally obvious shills).
Gee are ICE bubble of trapped air inside ICE cores going back a million years NOT a very good record ?
Of course there are no records of correlation between two things prior to the 1970s when records weren't being made! There are literally billions of years of history in this planet and we have a few decades of that type of data.
Yes life began in the 1970's !!
DISCO ... like most all records pre 1970, are to be denied. Being able to measure the type of CARBON in a fossil has been possible for 50 years and dating a fossil and seeing the MIX of the type of carbon .... IS TO BE IGNORED. Even the fossil record... too !!
I agree that we should take care of the planet. We are rapidly destroying it. Unfortunately, CO2 isn't the biggest issue, and by focussing on it we're ignoring the actual important issues.
Important issues, whilst I agree Humans and their impact on plant and animal life are impossible to ignore. Houston ... we have a problem ... CO2 at levels not seen for a million years and in fact with great confidence ... which you IGNORE carbon dating, the last time we had it at 400 PPM seas were 20 meters higher and half the world was UNINHABITABLE ... then again humans were not around.
The one big point I disagree with climate scientists on is how important CO2 is.
This is my favorite .... all time favorite ... earth had issues ... 5 known die offs. extinction events. ALL CARBON RELATED. Eventually, Carbon got captured sometimes by Seas of vegetation being buried, CARBON capturing ... or massive deposits of limestone ... go to the Nullabor Plain and HAVE a look ... its lime stone, but NOPE ... we have CO2 highest in a million years and in fact many millions of years, all covering your last 120,000 year theory ... NO ... not a problem. Really ? The ocean in 100 years at current rates of ocean acidity change, ignoring feedback loops, will dissolve .... DISSOLVE shellfish and their outer shells. Its a chemical reaction.
NOPE CO2 is not important !! If you like living.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas, but its relative importance has been overplayed.
Well as a cure ... I suggest its use .. for special people. We burn things, that stopped very old carbon events. Under an electron microscope they can identify WHAT various oil deposits were formed from. CARBON CAPTURING things, algae and for coal buried forests compressed over time.
We humans, now burn them ... and NOPE not a worry !! Well not too much in my lifetime.
1,000 years happened completely naturally over the last 100,000 years quite a lot of times, and no scientists dispute this
Yes to SOME extent ... NOT where we are NOW ... NOT ocean acidiifcation which has been unseen for 59 million years !! NOR CO2 levels ... if one is NOT living with a delusion that all records pre 1970 are to be ignored ... ICE bubbles in ICE cores buried over a million years .... SHOW CO2 to even a reasonable person have never been above 380 PPM and we hit 410 PPM and rising faster and faster !!
The Milankovitch Cycles and their effect on Climate Change
Known since 1690 ... the Earht and its orbit around the sun and its tilt ... every 41,000 years ... and output dips ... IGNORED to fit your theory.
Bloody hell !!
LOSS of 6% IRRADIANCE is about the norm ... basically a winter upon a winter ... the cycle 41,000 years, and another the earths actual cycle and its orbit ... again measurable ... two extreme periods ... one is where the TILT is at its maximum irradiance and the other extreme ... oblique and heliun furthest from the sun and MINIMUM solar irradiance.
Ignored as to cause of last dips and ice or colder events ... next one due 10,500 years from now and to be exact ... last one hit 30,000 year or so ago, with ULTRA low CO2 in the air, mega fauna and massive trees and hit with a massive fall in the suns output ?
An "appropriate context is that your opinion, on science, in about 30 different fields, from ocean acidity to Ocean temperature, to atmosphere to permafrost, to Arctic Shel and Ocean sediment and on and on ... possibly 50 different quite unique and complex scientific fields where 50,000 or so scientists, professors and others operate, and agree, all 50,000 of them, and 200 Nobel prize winners, who peer review and discuss the topics and have been 100% accurate over a very long time ... their findings are ... only to be taken in what you deem to be ... "appropriate context.... that being all of them are wrong.
You have displayed this .... calling their work ... incorrect verses your own, and theirs must be taken in "appropriate context ... which is yours. Which the appropriate context is they are wrong, and you are right.
Interesting and you have shared your view on virtually all of the 16 topics covered in the two videos and ignored all written responses of the same .. for your own "appropriate context.
I sadly said it before ...
I am not twisting your words ... or being insulting or even rude.
I quoted your theories, listened to them. Examined the science.
As did 5 or more others on this thread,
far more knowledgeable than me. That is not hard !!
We all found your theory, not supported by either fact or science to be incorrect.
You insistence and ignoring all scientific facts, past records that did NOT suit your theory whilst presenting such absurd ones ... MEDIA controlled ? Or Scientists are all wrong ? and your right ?
Can I express my disbelief ? Without being insulting to someone who clearly has a religious belief they are right ? Or is it an illness ? Dementia or Alzheimer's or just Narcissism and
not able to an error or even open to the possibility that you are wrong ?
I spend more time KNOWING I am wrong and DON'T know a bloody thing !! More time than I do being right or even thinking I am.
Its refreshing, and a learning experience and everything IS potentially NEW as I go through life learning from others.
Or for say very ill people like Mr Trump who lies and lies on tape and then denies he lies. It is what it is. Or they claim they did ot say that ... and accuse others, as has been the case here of PROJECTION ... or GASLIGHTING because we don't agree ? Best form of defense is attack, and if cornered accuse, minimize and maximize, things are black and white ....
You just did that when I quoted out of your own posts. Not twisting words or ideas. Merely quoting them and I am supposedly the issue ? Take a deep breath ... and think.
Of the 21 Conspiracy theories about climate change, above, I have directly quoted your VIEWS on 17 of them. All to you, are factual. All to you are real. No possibility of say ICE core air bubbles being correct exits. everything started in 1970 in terms of records. Fossils are irrelevant. On and on and on and on it goes.
Must run. Internet from the Earth Is Hollow, and I am inside Hollow Earth, another conspiracy theory ... is timed and I have used my quota according to the Lizard people, another conspiracy theory ... and have to get off.