Is Global Warming becoming unstoppable?

[Darc Knight]

OMG IT MUST BE GLOBAL WARMING! WE ARE ALL DOOOOMED!

You listen to 3AW in Melbourne do you Ann? Or News Ltd.?
I listen to Macquarie too - Jones, Hadley, Price & Bolt. But I try to take a balanced approach and separate how they make their money (through being an advocate for their Advertisers and Business in general, cash for comment sort of) and what is truth/fact.

 

[Ann]

You listen to 3AW in Melbourne do you Ann? Or News Ltd.?
I listen to Macquarie too - Jones, Hadley, Price & Bolt. But I try to take a balanced approach and separate how they make their money (through being an advocate for their Advertisers and Business in general, cash for comment sort of) and what is truth/fact.

I don't listen to the radio DK, I rarely watch television other than documentaries or now sometimes the new business channel. I do read non-fiction books. I was shocked into investigating CC after my adult son began speaking of CC in the manner of a fundamentalist belief system. My (then) uneducated argument to him was it is too one sided, there is no debate from both sides of science, there is too much propaganda associated with it. Plus when the "science" makes me laugh, then I know for sure it is a con (farting cows). I am pretty good at spotting a con and it had all the ingredients of a con for my taste. I have now read a few books on the subject and am happy it is a con.

 

[Darc Knight]

I don't know what to believe. All I know and believe is that whoever is lying (the Academics or Right Wing media) should be locked up.

 

[Ann]

I don't know what to believe. All I know and believe is that whoever is lying (the Academics or Right Wing media) should be locked up.

Rest assured DK we are getting the best scientists that money can buy, working on climate change!........

 

[Darc Knight]

Lol

 

[luutzu]

I don't listen to the radio DK, I rarely watch television other than documentaries or now sometimes the new business channel. I do read non-fiction books. I was shocked into investigating CC after my adult son began speaking of CC in the manner of a fundamentalist belief system. My (then) uneducated argument to him was it is too one sided, there is no debate from both sides of science, there is too much propaganda associated with it. Plus when the "science" makes me laugh, then I know for sure it is a con (farting cows). I am pretty good at spotting a con and it had all the ingredients of a con for my taste. I have now read a few books on the subject and am happy it is a con.

What are they conning us into Ann?

Finding renewable alternatives? Switch over now is better than switching over later when all the current prominent fossil-based source runs out?

Cleaner air to breathe? Less pollution and disasters from by-products, spillage, accidents.

The transition will mean more jobs, more R&D, higher tech that would be competitive to manufacture in the West.

Not to mention the adoption of solar or wind or wave, or all of the above will mean less, a lot less, demand for stationing troops in oil-rich countries to protect and civilised the natives.

When energy can be generated from sources mother nature deliver right to your roof... that could save a fair few hundred billions a year on the military to make sure the other guys didn't get it.

If it's a con, I gotta tell ya, it's a whole lot different to smoking tobacco being good for you... if not good, it definitely does not cause cancer or ill health, at all, promise.

 

[basilio]

I don't listen to the radio DK, I rarely watch television other than documentaries or now sometimes the new business channel. I do read non-fiction books. I was shocked into investigating CC after my adult son began speaking of CC in the manner of a fundamentalist belief system. My (then) uneducated argument to him was it is too one sided, there is no debate from both sides of science, there is too much propaganda associated with it. Plus when the "science" makes me laugh, then I know for sure it is a con (farting cows). I am pretty good at spotting a con and it had all the ingredients of a con for my taste. I have now read a few books on the subject and am happy it is a con.

Interesting... So which books have you read on the subject of CC which have convinced you it's a con Ann ?

And as far as cows causing CC. Actually they are one of the contributers and the amount they contribute is actually quite high. IN fact there are major efforts in place to chnage the diets of cows to reduce the farts.
Scientists Underestimated How Bad Cow Farts Are

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Animal farts and poop are major contributors to global warming. It turns out we might have been underestimating just how much.

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New research finds that previous estimates of methane emissions from livestock were off by as much as 10%. The new calculations take into account changes in the ways people are using and keeping livestock.

Methane is a natural byproduct of digestion, made by that microbes in an animal’s gut that breakdown and ferment the food we eat. A gas, methane is a principle component of farts, though it’s not the one that makes them smell—sulfur-containing molecules are the biggest culprit there.

Farts are funny. Global warming is not.Unfortunately, methane is a big contributor to the greenhouse effect, helping to trap heat within Earth’s atmosphere and contributing to climate change. Carbon dioxide usually gets the blame for global warming, but methane is about 85 times more powerful when it comes to trapping heat, although it breaks down faster than carbon dioxide.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/samlem...estimated-how-bad-cow-farts-are/#53c322fe78a9

 

[Ann]

The CC groups are well funded and well organized to the point of monitoring and responding to CC threads and disparaging anyone with alternative views on any forum. As I said to my son, you need to follow the money trail. We need to work out who has the deepest pockets and with the most self interest. I have worked it out. Have a look at the posts that preceeded mine, they are clearly geared to contradict and disparage any comment made contrary to the accepted propaganda of the day. It is an evil and dangerous place we have come to. However it is good you have been flushed out. I am watching you now.

 

[SirRumpole]

As I said to my son, you need to follow the money trail. We need to work out who has the deepest pockets and with the most self interest.

You are so right there Ann.

It wouldn't be the coal and oil companies would it ?

 

[Ann]

You are so right there Ann.

It wouldn't be the coal and oil companies would it ?

No Rumpy, it isn't.

 

[Ann]

Try again Rumpy...

 

[sptrawler]

I don't know what or who to believe.

The scary thing is our entire existence is at stake. A Royal Commission into G.W.?

Imagine if Human Beings (and alot of other species) become extinct because of Right Wing idealogy!

A Royal Commission into global warming? you do realise we contribute 1.8% to Global Warming.
You do realise if we shut down Australia completely, switched everything off, went and lived in caves.
It would do fluck all, to the global warming outcome, or do you think it would work some sort of fairy dust magic?

I don't mind that we make changes, but I do mind when it puts my kids and grandkids into poverty, for no benefit.
To me that is passing on the costs of my warm feel good I'm a great human, to the detriment of my kids and grand kids, for no good reason other than my self esteem. It is a it like kicking the ball down the road, we make life changing decision for the next generation, I just hope they are happy with them.
Just my opinions.

 

[Ann]

A Royal Commission into global warming? you do realise we contribute 1.8% to Global Warming.

Royal Commisions, gotta love talk fests! Of course nothing to do with the recent ice age we are moving out of?

 

[sptrawler]

Royal Commisions, gotta love talk fests! Of course nothing to do with the recent ice age we are moving out of?

While we are talk festing on this, no one is asking how the next government is going to change their lives, I guess that is the new facebook generation.
It absolutely amazes me.

 

[Ann]

While we are talk festing on this, no one is asking how the next government is going to change their lives, I guess that is the new facebook generation.
It absolutely amazes me.

Geez sptrawler I always thought it was up to the individual as to how one changes one's life. I never have had the victim mentality. I also don't have facebook. If my friends decide to die without notifying me first then, tough just another funeral I don't need to go to!

 

[luutzu]

Try again Rumpy...

Hippies?

Elon Musk? China?

Not making fun of you alright. Just at the ideas I heard floating around about CC being fake, bought and paid for by leftist, socialist, communists, fake scientist...

 

[luutzu]

A Royal Commission into global warming? you do realise we contribute 1.8% to Global Warming.
You do realise if we shut down Australia completely, switched everything off, went and lived in caves.
It would do fluck all, to the global warming outcome, or do you think it would work some sort of fairy dust magic?

I don't mind that we make changes, but I do mind when it puts my kids and grandkids into poverty, for no benefit.
To me that is passing on the costs of my warm feel good I'm a great human, to the detriment of my kids and grand kids, for no good reason other than my self esteem. It is a it like kicking the ball down the road, we make life changing decision for the next generation, I just hope they are happy with them.
Just my opinions.

Well, each one of us contributes very little, a very insignificant amount to the CC issue. By that logic, why should each one of us do anything.

On a per capita basis, Australians is pretty much up there though.

btw, did you know that the Trump admin recently follow the same line of logic in not giving a damn about their cars emission standard? Well, they actually went a lot further...

Their argument goes like this... Meh. CC might be real, might not be. If it's real, the rate the world's going we're all stuffed anyway, so what's the use of curbing emission?

Seriously.

Cheaper fuel? Less pollution so it choke those living near highways less? Just general economy?

Meh.

 

[sptrawler]

Geez sptrawler I always thought it was up to the individual as to how one changes one's life. I never have had the victim mentality. I also don't have facebook. If my friends decide to die without notifying me first then, tough just another funeral I don't need to go to!

Snap, I'm with you, don't have facebook and hate funerals.
The stories a mate of mine, tells me about what his kids put on facebook scares the hell out of me.
Apparently they put on pictures of what they are cooking on the BBQ, I mean who gives a $hit what they are cooking on the BBQ, but apparently it gets a lot of "likes".
Obviously the 'new' generation have very little to worry about in their lives. lol

 

[sptrawler]

Well, each one of us contributes very little, a very insignificant amount to the CC issue. By that logic, why should each one of us do anything.

On a per capita basis, Australians is pretty much up there though.

btw, did you know that the Trump admin recently follow the same line of logic in not giving a damn about their cars emission standard? Well, they actually went a lot further...

Their argument goes like this... Meh. CC might be real, might not be. If it's real, the rate the world's going we're all stuffed anyway, so what's the use of curbing emission?

Seriously.

Cheaper fuel? Less pollution so it choke those living near highways less? Just general economy?

Meh.

Well we are trying to reduce our emissions, as you have probably noticed.

But if we become a third world nation doing it, the emissions will probably end up like Bali or Ho Chi Minh, and that wouldn't be good either. lol

I suppose it is a case of " be careful what you wish for". lol

If clean energy, comes at the cost of a first world economy, I guess welfare could go out the window. lol

Life's a balance, Life's a compromise, you get nothing for nothing.

 

[Ann]

Hippies?

Elon Musk? China?

Not making fun of you alright. Just at the ideas I heard floating around about CC being fake, bought and paid for by leftist, socialist, communists, fake scientist...

You are on probation with me Luu, I am watching you.

Not Hippies ( I was here when they invented hippies), leftists, socialists, communists, fake scientists. (Not fake just available to the highest bidder)

Elon Musk=Wanker with potential
China= axe to grind and massive potential to eff the world if they so choose.