Is Global Warming becoming unstoppable?

[basilio]

Does News Corp cover the climate crisis in the way The Guardian does ?

In fact there are reporters who highlight the implications of rising temperatures, rising sea levels and extreme weather conditions. The problem is that these stories are overshadowed by a constant stream of opinion pieces by Andrew Bolt. Greg Sheridan, Miranda Divine and others who deride the risks and relentlessly run the line that CC is a " hoax, overrated, someone else's problem, or a left wing conspiracy theory" And on top of that "any action by Australia to reduce its emissions will just destroy our way of life."

I can and have quoted some excellent examples of News Corp reporting on CC. But in the overall picture I would be amazed if News Corp readers actually believed there was serious problem given the overall message.

Dire warning for Australia: ‘A billion people displaced’

A group of high ranking former defence and security officials has said Australia is sleepwalking into a bevy of potentially “devastating” national security threats.

www.news.com.au

Impacts we’ll be living with for thousands of years

If you think climate change is a futuristic concept then you may be in for a shock.

www.news.com.au

 

[basilio]

This analysis details the overwhelming impact of a few climate denial opinion writers on News Corp presentation of CC issues.

Turns Out News Corp Kept Lying About Climate Change, Even After Last Summer’s Fires​

by Jim Malo 17 December 2020

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A new report shows that over the last 12 months — following the Black Summer bushfires — nearly half of all climate coverage in four News Corp publications cast doubt on or completely rejected climate science.
Professor Wendy Bacon, who conducted the research handed down in the Lies, Debates, and Silences: How News Corp produces climate scepticism in Australia report, said it showed a clear strategy from News Corp leadership.

“I would call it an editorial policy,” she said. “Recently, Rupert Murdoch said there were no denialists there. That is simply not true.

“Media companies control their own agenda, there’s nothing accidental about it. Considerable resources are spent on spreading misinformation about climate change.”
Related

A Year On From The Bushfires, Have We Actually Achieved Anything On Climate Policy?

Professor Bacon’s analysis, commissioned by GetUp!, covered 8,612 pieces published by News Corp. Most of these articles were published in The Australian, though the newspaper had the lowest percentage of negative coverage at 38 percent.
The Daily Telegraph was the worst, with 58 percent of its pieces on climate change being negative.

This was partially skewed by the high frequency of opinion and commentary pieces. About 62 percent weren’t based on research or fact.

The other two surveyed papers were the Courier Mail and Herald Sun. Others owned by News Corp were excluded but still were likely to include climate denying material due to the syndication of columnists like Andrew Bolt, who was responsible for a large chuck of climate denial in the four surveyed papers.

He himself wrote 12 percent of articles surveyed. In the Herald Sun, his home paper, he made up 32 percent.

The top five columnists at News Corp wrote 44 percent of all opinion articles. All five were Sky News After Dark contributors too.

Professor Bacon said this showed there was an editorial direction.

“One thing I’d say, when you look at the top 10 opinion writers they all either reject climate science or are extremely negative about any action, with Bolt being very dominant,” she said. “Think about what resources are being spent on those opinion writers.
“That would be millions a year for all those people. It’s an editorial policy. You choose your journalists and opinion writers.”
Of the 55 percent of articles that accepted the science, Professor Bacon said most were poorly done.

They rarely included the perspectives of scientists, mentioned the impacts of climate change or failed to dispel misunderstandings about the phenomenon.

Another issue was the selection of sources. The most commonly used voice on climate change were politicians, as 47 per cent of all sources. Scientists made up just 6 percent of sources.

When it came to industry sources, fossil fuel, financial, and mining types made up 56 percent of voices. Renewable energy sources were just 5 percent.
Again, Professor Bacon said this showed that editorial decisions were driving the denial, and the News Corp papers were not acting as a “passive receptacle for people’s views”.
“A journalist understands the strategies,” she said. “You know how to construct the stories.”
The full report can be found here.

 

[basilio]

Greg Mullins was Australias longest serving fire chief. His experience in fighting fires across Australia is second to none. His observations of how fundamentally climate change has affected fire fighting are sobering/terrifying. This reinforces how critical tacking global warming is for our future.

‘The world is burning’: how Australia’s longest-serving fire chief became a climate champion​

Greg Mullins says after the ‘black summer’ bushfires it is time for politicians to act on global heating

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‘We need to take action on emissions, and Australia’s not living up to its international responsibilities.’ Greg Mullins in 1979, aged 20, in his NSW Fire Brigades uniform

Calla Wahlquist

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The year 2019 was Australia’s hottest and driest on record. By 2040, those conditions – temperatures 1.5C above normal, contributing to the worst bushfire season the east coast has ever seen – will be average. By 2060, on current projections, it would be considered “exceptionally cool”.
The 2019-20 fire season, dubbed “black summer”, will become the norm.

It’s a grim future that has turned Greg Mullins, the longest-serving fire commissioner in Australia, into a climate campaigner.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-australia-must-take-climate-change-seriously
In 50 years of firefighting I had never seen fires like I did last summer. Australia must take climate change seriously
Greg Mullins

Read more
“It’s gonna be a very, very dangerous place to live – not Australia, planet Earth,” Mullins says. “I’m deeply worried about my grandsons and what they’re inheriting from us.”

That worry is at the heart of a new book, Firestorm, written after that terrible summer of bushfires and the resulting royal commission. The book is dedicated to Mullins’ grandsons, Eamon and Oli, and their future safety.

‘The world is burning’: how Australia’s longest-serving fire chief became a climate champion

Greg Mullins says after the ‘black summer’ bushfires it is time for politicians to act on global heating

www.theguardian.com

 

[sptrawler]

A great article, shows what can be done, I did wonder why the retired couple couldn't manage with one car. But otherwise a great article, reducing people's carbon footprint, is the key IMO.

Rewiring Australian households could save up to $6,000 a year

As Glasgow looms over the federal government's climate change goals, new research could help both major parties embrace more aggressive emissions reduction targets.

www.abc.net.au

 

[basilio]

A great article, shows what can be done, I did wonder why the retired couple couldn't manage with one car. But otherwise a great article, reducing people's carbon footprint, is the key IMO.

Rewiring Australian households could save up to $6,000 a year

As Glasgow looms over the federal government's climate change goals, new research could help both major parties embrace more aggressive emissions reduction targets.

www.abc.net.au

It is a good story. As you would recognize the way to make the big difference that is required is moving practically everyone to an all electric house powered by renewable energy over fairly short time. Probably 10-20 years.

Saul Griffiths is a very smart, very effective live wire. An Aussie to boot. Just watched a webinar with him discussing the launch of Electrify everything " in Australia.

It's ambitious but essential. And it will be well worth the investment. But as usual needs to be done well.

Rewiring Australia

Led by Saul Griffith, inventor, engineer and entrepreneur, Rewiring Australia builds on the success of the Rewiring America movement to collectively illustrate the positive outcomes for Australia and the world in mobilising rapid decarbonisation and ‘electrifying everything’. Please join Saul in...

australiainstitute.org.au

 

[Smurf1976]

Saul Griffiths is a very smart, very effective live wire. An Aussie to boot. Just watched a webinar with him discussing the launch of Electrify everything " in Australia.

Trouble with all this is the politics.

We've known right from the start that the answer would involve replacing fossil fuels at the point of use with electricity and changing how we generate that electricity. That was always the case, there was never a time when climate change was a mainstream issue and that wasn't known.

Renewables generate electricity. Wind, solar, tidal, wave, hydro, geothermal and so on - they all generate electricity as their output.

Nuclear generates electricity as its practical output (well, unless we distribute the heat to end users - could be done to some extent).

If carbon capture and storage was ever going to work then it was going to be at power stations not in your kitchen or lounge room. Not that it really works at power stations either (technically it's possible just prohibitively expensive) but it was never going to be a thing done in your kitchen at home with a pot of rice in the middle, that was always obvious.

That being so, the solution requires electricity at the point of use. Nothing new there.

Suffice to say it frustrates me greatly that it's taken a third of a century, an entire generation, to get even modest acceptance of that basic reality. Those who pointed it out years or even decades ago were shot down in flames at the time, quite brutally in fact.....

The future is electric and always has been. Electricity at the point of use, and that means we'll be using a lot more electricity overall, but produced by very different methods to the past.

 

[basilio]

Trouble with all this is the politics.

We've known right from the start that the answer would involve replacing fossil fuels at the point of use with electricity and changing how we generate that electricity. That was always the case, there was never a time when climate change was a mainstream issue and that wasn't known.

Renewables generate electricity. Wind, solar, tidal, wave, hydro, geothermal and so on - they all generate electricity as their output.

Nuclear generates electricity as its practical output (well, unless we distribute the heat to end users - could be done to some extent).

If carbon capture and storage was ever going to work then it was going to be at power stations not in your kitchen or lounge room. Not that it really works at power stations either (technically it's possible just prohibitively expensive) but it was never going to be a thing done in your kitchen at home with a pot of rice in the middle, that was always obvious.

That being so, the solution requires electricity at the point of use. Nothing new there.

Suffice to say it frustrates me greatly that it's taken a third of a century, an entire generation, to get even modest acceptance of that basic reality. Those who pointed it out years or even decades ago were shot down in flames at the time, quite brutally in fact.....

The future is electric and always has been. Electricity at the point of use, and that means we'll be using a lot more electricity overall, but produced by very different methods to the past.

Absolutely right. And frankly while I applaud Sauls research and smarts in proposing his "Electrify Everything" story I can see formidable implementation issues. I reckon he is quite smart enough to realise this but is approaching it all with a "Can do" attitude and "let's solve the problems"

In the Webinar he made it clear this required excellent policies in place and care with carrying out the process to ensure a good result across the board.

As far as frustration with recognising reality ? Yeah - but unfortunately we havn't even reached the level of a sincere broad agreement that CC is real and disastrous and must be tackled effectively and immediately. When Energy Ministers like Angus Taylor propose supporting carbon capture programs for fossil fuel industries as a policy measure we are in trouble.

 

[rederob]

Trouble with all this is the politics.

We've known right from the start that the answer would involve replacing fossil fuels at the point of use with electricity and changing how we generate that electricity. That was always the case, there was never a time when climate change was a mainstream issue and that wasn't known.

Renewables generate electricity. Wind, solar, tidal, wave, hydro, geothermal and so on - they all generate electricity as their output.

Nuclear generates electricity as its practical output (well, unless we distribute the heat to end users - could be done to some extent).

If carbon capture and storage was ever going to work then it was going to be at power stations not in your kitchen or lounge room. Not that it really works at power stations either (technically it's possible just prohibitively expensive) but it was never going to be a thing done in your kitchen at home with a pot of rice in the middle, that was always obvious.

That being so, the solution requires electricity at the point of use. Nothing new there.

Suffice to say it frustrates me greatly that it's taken a third of a century, an entire generation, to get even modest acceptance of that basic reality. Those who pointed it out years or even decades ago were shot down in flames at the time, quite brutally in fact.....

The future is electric and always has been. Electricity at the point of use, and that means we'll be using a lot more electricity overall, but produced by very different methods to the past.

Electricity at point of use might be part of the solution today, but it was never the problem to begin with.
The problem has been, and continues to be, electricity at source.
If the source is fossil fuels then at use it makes no difference.

Politics is certainly an issue, but the larger problem is policy uncertainty for our electricity generators. Billion dollar investments are needed to replace the large-scale coal generators that have gone offline or will soon be going offline. Filling the void in the interim is a myriad of small scale (mostly) wind and solar projects. None of these are required to have "backup". And while point of use electricity at home sounds good for those with solar PV, especially if homes have battery backup, it's a very time consuming and expensive (not tot mention impossible outcome for households that cannot install solar) option compared to installing backup at electricity source.

 

[Investoradam]

Greg Mullins was Australias longest serving fire chief. His experience in fighting fires across Australia is second to none. His observations of how fundamentally climate change has affected fire fighting are sobering/terrifying. This reinforces how critical tacking global warming is for our future.

‘The world is burning’: how Australia’s longest-serving fire chief became a climate champion​

Greg Mullins says after the ‘black summer’ bushfires it is time for politicians to act on global heating

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‘We need to take action on emissions, and Australia’s not living up to its international responsibilities.’ Greg Mullins in 1979, aged 20, in his NSW Fire Brigades uniform

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Calla Wahlquist

@callapilla
Sun 26 Sep 2021 13.30 EDT
Last modified on Sun 26 Sep 2021 13.32 EDT

The year 2019 was Australia’s hottest and driest on record. By 2040, those conditions – temperatures 1.5C above normal, contributing to the worst bushfire season the east coast has ever seen – will be average. By 2060, on current projections, it would be considered “exceptionally cool”.
The 2019-20 fire season, dubbed “black summer”, will become the norm.

It’s a grim future that has turned Greg Mullins, the longest-serving fire commissioner in Australia, into a climate campaigner.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-australia-must-take-climate-change-seriously
In 50 years of firefighting I had never seen fires like I did last summer. Australia must take climate change seriously
Greg Mullins

Read more
“It’s gonna be a very, very dangerous place to live – not Australia, planet Earth,” Mullins says. “I’m deeply worried about my grandsons and what they’re inheriting from us.”

That worry is at the heart of a new book, Firestorm, written after that terrible summer of bushfires and the resulting royal commission. The book is dedicated to Mullins’ grandsons, Eamon and Oli, and their future safety.

‘The world is burning’: how Australia’s longest-serving fire chief became a climate champion

Greg Mullins says after the ‘black summer’ bushfires it is time for politicians to act on global heating

www.theguardian.com

Greg Mullins is part of the Tim Flannery spruiker stable! A known liar and a fraud that gullible fools who believe the climate change crap!
the man who stated sea levels will rise and then buys a beach front apartment in manly

TIM FLANNERY – Professor of Dud Predictions and Climate Falsehoods - Rite-ON!

TIM FLANNERY, former Climate Commissioner of Australia earned $180,000 per year to make dud predictions. He was rightly sacked by Abbott in 2013

www.riteon.org.au

 

[rederob]

Greg Mullins is part of the Tim Flannery spruiker stable!

You have a vivid imagination!

A known liar and a fraud that gullible fools who believe the climate change crap!

You are lucky that Mullins isn't an ASF member as that's outright libel and defamatory.

the man who stated sea levels will rise and then buys a beach front apartment in manly

Well, sea levels are rising, so he got that right. But his property at Coba Point on Berowra Creek is about 20 kilometres from any beach, so that was another fabrication.

 

[basilio]

Greg Mullins is part of the Tim Flannery spruiker stable! A known liar and a fraud that gullible fools who believe the climate change crap!
the man who stated sea levels will rise and then buys a beach front apartment in manly

TIM FLANNERY – Professor of Dud Predictions and Climate Falsehoods - Rite-ON!

TIM FLANNERY, former Climate Commissioner of Australia earned $180,000 per year to make dud predictions. He was rightly sacked by Abbott in 2013

www.riteon.org.au

Greg Mullins experience as 40 year fire fighter tells him how bushfires are dramatically and dangerously changing as a result of increasing temperatures caused by Global Heating Perhaps the best way to resolve your concerns Investordam is to park yourself close to the next big fire we have on a 45C degree day and see for yourself ?

On your way..

 

[basilio]

The Business Council of Australia is backing calls for a critical shift in Government policy re. emissions cuts.

Business Council shifts climate position to back 50% emissions cut by 2030​

Big business says accelerating emissions cuts would leave Australians better off by an average of $5,000 per person each year by 2050

The Business Council of Australia has urged an emissions cut of between 46% and 50% on 2005 levels within the decade. Photograph: Dave Hunt/AAP

Australian Associated Press
Sat 9 Oct 2021 11.12 AEDT
First published on Sat 9 Oct 2021 08.48 AEDT

Big business has thrown its weight behind a 50% emissions reduction by 2030 to avoid a “costly and damaging” game of climate catch-up.
The Business Council of Australia believes a cut of between 46% and 50% on 2005 levels within the decade is pragmatic, ambitious and will drive investment.

“The purpose of our work is to move forward, not engage in an endless debate about issues the nation and the world has moved past,” BCA president Tim Reed said.


The council said modelling showed accelerating emissions cuts would leave Australians better off by an average of $5,000 per person each year by 2050.

Australia in 2015 committed to an emissions reduction of between 26% and 28% below 2005 levels by 2030.

Business Council shifts climate position to back 50% emissions cut by 2030

Big business says accelerating emissions cuts would leave Australians better off by an average of $5,000 per person each year by 2050

www.theguardian.com

Achieving net-zero with more jobs and stronger regions

Business Council of Australia

www.bca.com.au

 

[basilio]

Greg Mullins was Australias longest serving fire chief. His experience in fighting fires across Australia is second to none. His observations of how fundamentally climate change has affected fire fighting are sobering/terrifying. This reinforces how critical tacking global warming is for our future.

‘The world is burning’: how Australia’s longest-serving fire chief became a climate champion​

Greg Mullins says after the ‘black summer’ bushfires it is time for politicians to act on global heating

• Get our free news app; get our morning email briefing

View attachment 130751
‘We need to take action on emissions, and Australia’s not living up to its international responsibilities.’ Greg Mullins in 1979, aged 20, in his NSW Fire Brigades uniform

View attachment 130752
Calla Wahlquist

@callapilla
Sun 26 Sep 2021 13.30 EDT
Last modified on Sun 26 Sep 2021 13.32 EDT

The year 2019 was Australia’s hottest and driest on record. By 2040, those conditions – temperatures 1.5C above normal, contributing to the worst bushfire season the east coast has ever seen – will be average. By 2060, on current projections, it would be considered “exceptionally cool”.
The 2019-20 fire season, dubbed “black summer”, will become the norm.

It’s a grim future that has turned Greg Mullins, the longest-serving fire commissioner in Australia, into a climate campaigner.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-australia-must-take-climate-change-seriously
In 50 years of firefighting I had never seen fires like I did last summer. Australia must take climate change seriously
Greg Mullins

Read more
“It’s gonna be a very, very dangerous place to live – not Australia, planet Earth,” Mullins says. “I’m deeply worried about my grandsons and what they’re inheriting from us.”

That worry is at the heart of a new book, Firestorm, written after that terrible summer of bushfires and the resulting royal commission. The book is dedicated to Mullins’ grandsons, Eamon and Oli, and their future safety.

‘The world is burning’: how Australia’s longest-serving fire chief became a climate champion

Greg Mullins says after the ‘black summer’ bushfires it is time for politicians to act on global heating

www.theguardian.com

Greg Mullins highlighted his experience as 50 year fire fighter in discussing the new extreme bushfire dangers facing Australia with the steep rise in fire thunderstorms.

There is another story which gives a first hand account of how the new firestorms being created have taken risks to catastrophic levels. Challenging reading but this is where we are.

‘Is anyone coming?’: when one town faced its first fire thunderstorm

Firestorms used to be a rare phenomenon, but in December 2019 the tiny town of Nerriga faced one of what would be many of the Black Summer season

www.theguardian.com

 

[basilio]

Big BIG storms across Sydney. Golf ball size hailstones everywhere. Apparantly a fair bit more to come yet.

Be interesting to see the insurance bill for damage to cars and buildings.

Ceiling collapses at Sydney shopping centre as storm dumps hailstones the size of golf balls

A severe thunderstorm in Sydney and coastal NSW brings thunder, lightning, heavy rain and hail, following a severe weather warning that included possible tornado activity was issued late this afternoon.

www.abc.net.au

 

[sptrawler]

Big BIG storms across Sydney. Golf ball size hailstones everywhere. Apparantly a fair bit more to come yet.

Be interesting to see the insurance bill for damage to cars and buildings.

Ceiling collapses at Sydney shopping centre as storm dumps hailstones the size of golf balls

A severe thunderstorm in Sydney and coastal NSW brings thunder, lightning, heavy rain and hail, following a severe weather warning that included possible tornado activity was issued late this afternoon.

www.abc.net.au

Well Bas get the blanket and the socks out, instead of putting the heater on, our predecessors managed.

 

[basilio]

More demands from Industry for the government to move far more purposefully of CC.
The short story is unrestrained CC consequences are looking very grim and the cost/opportunities for carbon reduction are far more encouraging.

Innes Willox is CEO of the peak Australian Industry Group

Both bad climate policy and no policy will see Australia lose jobs and investment overseas​

Innes Willox


Australia’s economic security depends on the government acting now to set clear and ambitious climate goals

“Low, zero and negative-emissions technologies hold the key to achieving deep emissions reductions alongside greater prosperity.” Photograph: Jessica Hromas/The Guardian
Sat 16 Oct 2021 06.00 AEDT


Agreement within the federal government on strong climate ambitions and a sensible strategy for achieving them will set Australia up for greater economic success this decade.

The case for action has been strengthening rapidly. The costs of action to reduce emissions are turning out to be lower than expected. The costs and risks of climate change itself are becoming increasingly clear and serious. And as Australia’s most important trading partners set their own economies on a course to net zero emissions via deep 2030 reductions, their demand for minerals, energy and other goods will shift. We can make the most of their energy transition – and join it ourselves – or we can be run over by a hydrogen-powered truck as others rush to supply our region’s needs.

Both bad climate policy and no policy will see Australia lose jobs and investment overseas | Innes Willox

Australia’s economic security depends on the government acting now to set clear and ambitious climate goals

www.theguardian.com

 

[sptrawler]

Overseas has got a few problems of its own.

Europe's rising energy prices will force factory closures: Kemp

Europe's increasingly expensive gas and electricity prices are sending a strong signal to manufacturers to consider temporary plant closures and to home and office owners to turn down thermostats to conserve fuel this winter.

www.reuters.com

Biggest US coal miner surges as global energy crisis boosts demand

Peabody's sales exceeded $900 million, the highest in seven quarters.

www.mining.com

Suddenly we are in the middle of a global energy crisis. What happened?

ANALYSIS: As the world adjusts to living with COVID-19, there is an energy crisis affecting the global supply of oil, gas and coal - and Australia is not immune to the growing uncertainty.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[basilio]

Here is one way of seeing how the Earth is warming. Quite clever.

Global Mean Monthly Temperature 1851-2020 Full Size

 

[Logique2]

The only thing unstoppable in this thread is climate Shill poster Basilio (Baloney Basilio).

You're all such sharp stock investors om ASF - yet you can't see through a transparent climate Shill like Bas.

Honestly. Bas, go up to Mussellbrook, NSW (Hunter Valley coal mining) and tell them how you're going to save the world..

To SpTrawler..,you need to wake up mate.

Carbon (CO2) grows trees Bas, it's plant food

..Logique2

 

[Country Lad]

The only thing unstoppable in this thread is climate Shill poster Basilio (Baloney Basilio).

You're all such sharp stock investors om ASF - yet you can't see through a transparent climate Shill like Bas.

Honestly. Bas, go up to Mussellbrook, NSW (Hunter Valley coal mining) and tell them how you're going to save the world..

To SpTrawler..,you need to wake up mate.

Carbon (CO2) grows trees Bas, it's plant food

..Logique2

Is that you Barnaby?