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You are very good at completely missing the point.Snowy 2 will always be needed, as will many, many more pumped hydro facilities, if renewables are to be the only source of generation.
Pumped hydro, hydrogen and or nuclear are the only current forms of bulk storage currently available, that can handle extended periods of low output from intermittent renewables.
So are we, don't be ridiculous Rob, I posted a link two days ago that the S.A to NSW interconnector has been given the go ahead.You are very good at completely missing the point.
Snowy2.0 only became necessary when there was no investment in large generation projects because of policy failures.
Europe is expanding its grid to accommodate increasing shares of renewables,
Apart from being the wrong thread, you again missed my points.So are we, don't be ridiculous Rob, I posted a link two days ago that the S.A to NSW interconnector has been given the go ahead.
This will alleviate a major bottleneck in the NW Victoria/ SW NSW renewable hub.
Electricity interconnector tipped to drive down prices in NSW and SA approved by regulator
A $2 billion electricity transmission line expected to deliver long-term cheaper power in SA and NSW by allowing more generation from renewables is given the green light by the national regulator.www.abc.net.au
You really are flogging a dead horse Rob, maybe time to take another tack, this one isn't working well for you.
From the article:Australia is the runaway global leader in building new renewable energy
Australia is installing renewable energy at more than ten times the global average. This is excellent news, but raises serious questions about integrating this electricity into our grids.theconversation.com
In Australia, renewable energy is growing at a per capita rate ten times faster than the world average. Between 2018 and 2020, Australia will install more than 16 gigawatts of wind and solar, an average rate of 220 watts per person per year.
This is nearly three times faster than the next fastest country, Germany. Australia is demonstrating to the world how rapidly an industrialised country with a fossil-fuel-dominated electricity system can transition towards low-carbon, renewable power generation.
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Renewable energy capacity installations per capita. International capacity data for 2018 from the International Renewable Energy Agency. Australian data from the Clean Energy Regulator., Author provided
When the Clean Energy Regulator accredited Tasmania’s 148.5 megawatt (MW) Cattle Hill Wind Farm in August, Australia met its Renewable Energy Target well ahead of schedule.
Wrong thread!Rob you are the one that keeps bringing up Europe, the U.S and the U.K, I was just posting a comparison of the renewable growth.
I'll post it again, obviously it didn't take the first time, Australia is installing renewables 10 times faster than the world average.
There is no reason for government incentives and or policies to increase the renewable installations, it is already being installed faster than the infrastructure can keep up with.
As you and Bas keep saying renewables are half the capital cost to install and a fraction of the cost to run, so there is a backlog of projects wanting to raid the base load of coal generators.
As you know but refuse to admit, the private sector are reluctant to install at call generation and the banks are reluctant to finance it, so it will be the government who has to fund firming capacity, which will be required until there is sufficient renewables to not require at call generation.
As for Snowy2, the private sector wouldn't even dream of a project of that cost, complexity and environmental issues, but again you are well aware of that and are scratching round for content.
Add to the massive amount of renewables being installed on the East Coast, the 100GW of renewables being installed in W.A by 2030 and Australia is mitigating its carbon footprint quite successfully without taxpayer incentives and or Federal Government policies .
I think the taxpayer has enough to fund repaying last years Jobkeeper and jobseeker payments, without burdening them with subsidising renewables, which already have a price advantage anyway, so will continue to thrive as old generators become more and more uncompetitive.
I'll add more clarification from the article.
https://theconversation.com/austral...eader-in-building-new-renewable-energy-123694
From the article:
In Australia, renewable energy is growing at a per capita rate ten times faster than the world average. Between 2018 and 2020, Australia will install more than 16 gigawatts of wind and solar, an average rate of 220 watts per person per year.
This is nearly three times faster than the next fastest country, Germany. Australia is demonstrating to the world how rapidly an industrialised country with a fossil-fuel-dominated electricity system can transition towards low-carbon, renewable power generation.
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Renewable energy capacity installations per capita. International capacity data for 2018 from the International Renewable Energy Agency. Australian data from the Clean Energy Regulator., Author provided
When the Clean Energy Regulator accredited Tasmania’s 148.5 megawatt (MW) Cattle Hill Wind Farm in August, Australia met its Renewable Energy Target well ahead of schedule.
Record renewable energy installation rates
While other analyses have pointed out that investment dollars in renewable energy fell in 2019, actual generation capacity has risen. Reductions in building costs may be contributing, as less investment will buy you more capacity.
Last year was a record year for renewable energy installations, with 5.1 gigawatts (GW) accredited in 2018, far exceeding the previous record of 2.2GW in 2017.
The increase was driven by the dramatic rise of large-scale solar farms, which comprised half of the new-build capacity accredited in 2018. There was a tenfold increase in solar farm construction from 2017.
We have projected the remaining builds for 2019 and those for 2020, based on data from the Clean Energy Regulator for public firm announcements for projects.
A project is considered firm if it has a power purchase agreement (PPA, a contract to sell the energy generated), has reached financial close, or is under construction. We assume six months for financial close and start of construction after a long-term supply contract is signed, and 12 or 18 months for solar farm or wind farm construction, respectively.
This year is on track to be another record year, with 6.5GW projected to be complete by the end of 2019.
IMV the most depressing thing is, even if Australia shut down completely tomorrow and everyone xlucked off and left the place empty, it wouldn't make any difference to the global warming outcome.IMV the most depressing part of watching the Federal Government refusal to move quickly to an integrated renewable energy future is the reality of how quickly global heating is running out of control.
IMV the most depressing thing is, even if Australia shut down completely tomorrow and everyone xlucked off and left the place empty, it wouldn't make any difference to the global warming outcome.
I don't know what you are smoking Bas, but as you say, give us a toke. ?
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China approved the construction of a further 36.9 GW of coal-fired capacity last year, three times more than a year earlier, bringing the total under construction to 88.1 GW. It now has 247 GW of coal power under development, enough to supply the whole of Germany.2 Feb 2021
Not at all, as I have posted we are putting in renewables faster than anywhere else and if the 100GW of renewable hydrogen is installed in W.A we will well and truly be leading the pack.China's new coal power plant capacity in 2020 more than 3 times rest of world's - study
China put 38.4 gigawatts (GW) of new coal-fired power capacity into operation in 2020, according to new international research, more than three times the amount built elsewhere around the world and potentially undermining its short-term climate goals.www.reuters.com
So are you saying we do nothing ? Ignore it perhaps ? Resign our children and grand children to a world of 2040 in chaos ?
I don't try to dwell on the consequences of doing nothing - far too depressing. But I can't reach the stage of pretending there is no point.
Picking up the China quote is intriguing. In point of fact China is also moving incredibly fast with renewable energy. The CCP is well aware of the reality of global warming as well the huge air pollution problems they face. And when one reads the bigger story we can see the pressures put on local authorities to keep the lights on.
If you are interested in going beyond a one sentence statement this source gives far more detail of China's impact and the changes they are implementing. But as you rightly point out every country needs to make tackling CC a priority if we are not to become toast.
How is China Managing its Greenhouse Gas Emissions? | ChinaPower Project
As the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases, China faces domestic and international pressure to address environmental concerns while maintaining economic growth.chinapower.csis.org
World must rewild on massive scale to heal nature and climate, says UN
The ‘decade on ecosystem restoration’ launches with a call for ‘imagination’ and action on never-before-seen scalewww.theguardian.com
Private finance won’t decarbonise our economies – but the ‘big green state’ can | Daniela Gabor
While the private sector wants to keep control of the green transition, what’s needed is massive public investment, says economics professor Daniela Gaborwww.theguardian.com
Record temperatures in the US.
US cities set up 'cooling centres' as historic heatwave bakes Pacific north-west
Daytime temperatures are breaking all-time high records in places where many residents don't have air conditioning.www.abc.net.au
"The long-term self-interest says I should protect my property, but the short-term says these warnings on my sales certificate will devalue my property."
This probably sums up the situation with many people owning high rise apartments on beach frontages - and not just in Miami.
A high-profile group of Noosa residents is currently fighting the local council's plan to prepare for sea-level rise, saying this climate action will hurt property prices and insurance costs.
"You've got short-term versus a long-term interest," Dr Mallon said.
Which Aussie electorates want climate action — and which ones are most at risk? The answer might surprise you
You might expect areas with a high climate risk to want more action on climate policy, but that's not always the case. We compared the results from the Australia Talks National Survey to risk assessment data for each electorate.www.abc.net.au
Noosa group launches climate change plan fight, brings in lobbyists linked to Adani
A newly-formed action group in Noosa has enlisted a high-powered lobby group linked to coal giant Adani as it launches a fight over the council's climate change impact plan for beaches.www.abc.net.au
The cat's out of the bag on that one I'm afraid. Anyone with a brain is going to be careful about buying property on the beach front especially after news items of building disappearing down cliffs.
NSW Central Coast houses partially collapse after beach erosion caused by swells
Two houses partially collapse and 66 more believed to be at risk as police ask some residents to evacuatewww.theguardian.com
People seem to think of extinctions as some silent, painless statistic. It’s not
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