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My thinking at this point is that, noting the fires, now's the time for action and to remove politics from the issue.The Liberal Party offering a rationale and practical policies to tackle Climate Change ?
This young leader sets out an excellent analysis of the situation and ways to tackle the problem.
I agree mostly but what if the so called science experts are also corrupt.My thinking at this point is that, noting the fires, now's the time for action and to remove politics from the issue.
A deal needs to be done between Liberal and Labor to de-politicise the issue. Bonus if the Greens agreed to it too.
It might cost someone a future election win but it needs to happen. Agree to come up with and implement an agreed plan of action and that the issue won't be a point of difference at a future election campaign since the other side has exactly the same policy.
There are precedents with other things, big developments and road safety policies come to mind, so it could be done.
Let's face it neither side is actually winning out of all this. Short term they might but not if you look back over the past decade or three, the issue hasn't really gained any party much politically overall. Labor and Liberal have been in and out and shuffling leaders, the Greens aren't in government, etc. No winners so it's time to drop the politics and hand the issue to science and experts.
Oh, did Elvis ask you to post that from his dugout in Area 51 where they faked the moon landing?I agree mostly but what if the so called science experts are also corrupt.
A slightly improved version for readers is here.Time for some more facts.
Lol. Your a very funny man rederob.Oh, did Elvis ask you to post that from his dugout in Area 51 where they faked the moon landing?
There are places in Australia which have been flooded to the point of causing significant damage
All this is extremely different if you look at the data for each individual week or day
I picked a couple of cities because comprehensive data and media coverage exists more than it does in the bush so my claims can be verified by anyone who wishes to
Now there might be some places where literally no wet period occurred but that isn't the majority.
Just because you're in a drought doesn't mean you can't have flash flooding or that smaller dams can't fill and spill.
Or to highlight the problem with 3 yearly data I could point out
Hey Dutchie.
Did you know the floods 2019 in Northern Queensland were and ARE 2,581 km from say Orbost Vic fires ?
Your kidding ? I provided NOT average rainfall maps but ANOMALIES maps ... a difference ..., an area that received 50% of the rainfall over 3 years .... and your still suggesting I look at weeklies.
I am so glad your not a fire warden and clearly have no farming experience and not well traveled
Really ... people outside the city are stupid ? the Bureau or Meteorology ... BOM ... only operates or works in your city ?
Source data BOM maps .... if it rains for a day or even a week ... but its 50% of the 3 year total is a very deep and dire drought.
If you’ve had a week of rain then the problem will be getting the fire lit not trying to contain it. Some point not long after that, when it’s no longer saturated but still reasonably moist, is the opportunity to burn.
Time for a nap under your "I love Khamenei" blanket.wow ...
I am astounded that say floods ... near Albury are something to do with Orbost ... 418 km away let alone Malacoota ...
Quite clearly ... NO single area enjoyed a week of rain. Yep there was flash flooding one region ... that well ... your kidding with your logic or lack of it.
the rest, well I will leave it to the new experts.
Take care
If you thinkg Albury, Gippsland and Melbourne are all the same region well that’s an interesting definition of a region.I am astounded that say floods ... near Albury are something to do with Orbost ... 418 km away let alone Malacoota ...
Quite clearly ... NO single area enjoyed a week of rain. Yep there was flash flooding one region .
Hey Dutchie.
Fire reduction burning was done, particularly in Victoria. Everyone knew it was going to be bad. Victoria has been through this before and fire reduction is taken very seriously.
(Less so in NSW due to cutbacks in funding by state government).
No one however thought the heat would so high above the norm breaking many records and that rainfall would be substantially below any year in measured history even the drought years! And it's not even an El Nino year!
If you look at the second link posted by Rederob it is quite shocking.
Tee hee ...
Non farmer lecturing a farmer about rain ... and his hop-along imbecile mate.
Yipee
15% of the population has an IQ under 85. Another 5% elderly suffer serious declines. Another 5% have serious mental issues.
Hello Mxjo ... and the expert in everything just like Trump ... expert in well everything ... building walls, nuclear power, solar ,., wind-farms ...
I quoted source data .. gave links ..even pictures .. and got back ... drivel and opinions based upon mythical floods in the Orbost and Malacoota regions ..
You quoted crap that wasn't relevant.
Nice to know that TDS translates to absolute delusion in all areas of life.
Are you suggesting that professionals in the relevant national parks, fire etc authorities in Victoria were mistaken and that what they thought was cool and damp was actually hot and dry?
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