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INDIA Fri 25/01/2008 Byrnecut ahead of Oxiana, Anglo at Banwas By Richard Roberts, 14 January 2008

http://www.highgrade.net/article/2008-01-14/Byrnecut_ahead_of_Oxiana,_Anglo_at_Banwas

AUSTRALIAN mining contractor Byrnecut Mining has emerged as the frontrunner in a bid to be involved with Hindustan Copper in redevelopment of the Banwas copper mine in Rajasthan�s Jhunjhunu district, pipping Oxiana, Anglo American, Lundin Mining and India Resources.

Hindustan Copper previously reported Banwas had �ore reserves of over 22.5 million tonnes grading 1.6% copper�.

�The mine is expected to be ready in about 18 months� time,� the company said in the second half of last year. �The operation is planned to be implemented through partnership with an outside agency [which] will bring in necessary investments. As the first step, five mining companies have been shortlisted. When fully operational the mine will contribute 10,000t of metal in concentrate per annum.�

Byrnecut is understood to have been informally advised by Hindustan that it has made the best bid to mine Banwas in a joint venture with the Indian company, though it was awaiting confirmation at the end of last week of the terms of the deal.

Managing director Steve Coughlan could not comment on specifics of Byrnecut�s proposal. �We�re aware that ours was the best bid, as you put it, but I haven�t had any confirmation of where it goes from there yet,� he said.

�We think there�s some potential there subject to various criteria being met and we�re working our way through those in pre-planning if you like while waiting for formal advice on whether they want to proceed with us or not.�

Asked if India � not included on Byrnecut�s list of priority international business development targets during an interview with HighGrade last year � offered expansion potential, Coughlan said the company was invited to participate in the Banwas bidding process and did not at this stage have a broader India strategy.

�In principle we�d look at every case in isolation, not in a general sense. It depends on a whole range of factors,� he said.

Byrnecut was established in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia, 20 years ago and is still partly owned by the original management team. It is majority-owned by Germany�s Thyssen group. The specialised underground mining contractor generated 2007 revenues of about $A550 million. In recent years it has recorded strong offshore growth, particularly in Africa, Europe and central Asia.
 
IRL clears maiden hurdle By Richard Roberts, 14 January 2008

http://www.highgrade.net/article/2008-01-14/IRL_clears_maiden_hurdle

LUCK seems to be playing a big part in the outcome of matches currently being played between the Australian and Indian Test cricket teams. Good fortune has most certainly been a factor in Australian-based India Resources Ltd�s ability to get some early runs on the board on the international mining industry�s version of cricket�s sticky wicket.

While Indian miners are among the offshore companies snaring Australian resources, reciprocal access for Australian companies in India�s domestic mining industry is taking far longer than a Steve Bucknor LBW verdict. Some foreign companies that saw changes to India�s foreign investment laws back in 1993 as an invitation to get a foothold in the country�s mineral exploration and mining game have struggled with a byzantine approvals process that has resulted in a single mining licence being granted to a foreigner in more than a decade.

India Resources, chaired by Western Australian mining identity Michael Kiernan, won a virtual coin toss to become Hindustan Copper�s partner at the Surda copper mine in Jharkhand state. The relationship extends to a Memorandum of Understanding on exploration in three states, but the Surda alliance has already made India Resources that most unusual of beasts in India � a foreign miner operating on local soil, albeit virtually as a contractor. In other words, Hindustan Copper holds the mining permit. India Resources also has other base metal and diamond exploration interests in India and, just before Christmas, snared 17% of Canadian-listed Pebble Creek Mining Ltd, which is working on a JORC-compliant resource for the Askot copper, lead, zinc, gold and silver volcanogenic massive sulphide (VMS) deposit in northern India.

Last week India Resources reported delivery of the first truck-load of Surda copper concentrates to Hindustan Copper�s nearby 18,000 tonnes-per-annum Moubhandar smelter. It plans to be supplying 4500tpa by the middle of this year, and up to 9000tpa thereafter.

India Resources has had a South African shaft expert examining options for expanding output from the Surda underground mine, where the company has also looked at decline access. It also had some metallurgical �tricks up [its] sleeve�, managing director Eoin Rothery told HighGrade. He is confident the Surda mine average grade of 0.95% copper achieved in December can be improved to 1.2%, while modifications to current flotation equipment, and the addition of new flotation and filtration plant, is expected to lift recovery levels. A newly commissioned ball mill has increased mill capacity to 1200t/day.

�[The] Mosaboni concentrator plant has been operating ahead of target, with 145t of copper concentrate produced in December � 83% above the targeted monthly production,� Rothery said in an India Resources ASX report last week. Average concentrate grade achieved in the month was 24.5%, with average recovery at 89%. �We are continuing refurbishment and improvement of the mine and milling infrastructure to boost capacity.�


An initial batch of concentrate from the restarted Surda operation is appropriately farewelled.

Rothery wants to produce 10,000t of ore this month, and increase this is 40,000t/month by mid-2008.

�The current capacity of the [mining] operation is 1300tpd with the skip capacity in place, but we�re hoping to ramp that up to 1700tpd,� he told HighGrade. �We�re waiting on the report and recommendations of the shaft hoisting expert we�ve had over from South Africa on how we can improve the shaft haulage.�

Rothery said India Resources had funds in place to complete the ramp-up, though the shaft report was needed to finalise costing. �We will be making an estimate this quarter and may include that in our March quarterly,� he said. The company had about $A13.5 million in the bank.

It has engaged Australian drilling contractor Mitchell Drilling Corporation � also used by Pebble Creek Mining at Askot � to provide exploration drilling services in India.

Rothery said the Pebble Creek tie-up came out of India Resources� close monitoring of foreign-operator activity in India, which was �not a big job as there are very few active foreign companies�.

�We made a reasonably quick decision to get involved [in Pebble Creek�s placement],� he said.

�Only two of those [foreign companies] have progressed to the mining licence approval stage, Pebble Creek being one. They have a granted prospecting lease [and] the mining lease application has been through the two most difficult of three stages (state recommendation, central government approval and state grant). Central government approval was announced on October 9, 2007.

�Our intention is to really help them get this thing [Askot] up and running. It is essentially a partnership. They�ve been in India for 12 years, so one of the good things about partnering with them is they�ve actually got a lot of experience. We�ve done a lot in just over 12 months, but we couldn�t describe ourselves as experienced Indian hands. We�ve been lucky to be able to get things done in a short time frame. These guys have been around the traps and they know what to do in India.�

A review of Indian Government data by independent British consultant Paul Boswell indicated not a lot of store could be placed in an estimated resource of 1.35Mt grading 2.12% copper, 2.87% lead and 5.14% zinc because of �several deficiencies in the data and estimating methods�.

�One lapse in procedure is that none of the three exploration entities assayed systematically for gold and silver. No cut off grades were stated for any of these estimates and a review of the figures suggests cut off grades were zero.�

Pebble Creek therefore did not regard the �historic estimates as anything more than evidence of a mineral deposit of yet unknown size and grade�.

�We�ll just wait for the resource to come out and take it from there,� Rothery said.

�I think we�re talking about a fairly serious deposit which is open along strike in both directions, and down dip, and there are other geophysical and geochem anomalies in the region. So we�re potentially looking at a series of VMS-type deposits that they�ve got control over.�
 
India Resources in iron ore talks
http://www.miningnews.net/storyview.asp?storyid=193432§ionsource=s0

Greg Tubby
Wednesday, 5 March 2008

MICHAEL Kiernan's India Resources is running its ruler over an iron ore property in India with a view to entering into a similar 'dig and deliver' arrangement to the one it has with Hindustan Copper.

Kiernan refused to comment further after presenting at PDAC in Toronto, but said the company was also talking with another potential Indian partner about an unrelated property.

India Resources operates the Surda copper mine under contract with government-owned Hindustan Copper.

Kiernan is coy about the terms of the arrangement with Hindustan, referring to it as 'secret men's business'.

'There is an agreed price between IRL and Hindustan that allows IRL a reasonable return on equity for the $8-10 million we have spent refurbishing the Surda mine plus a profit,' Kiernan said.

He said India Resources was leveraged to the copper price, but refused to reveal further details of the arrangement.

Kiernan is characteristically bullish about India, saying the geology is similar to South Africa and Western Australia. However, he says the Indian industry is still under-developed with plenty of opportunities for a foreign company that can supply expertise and capital.

India Resources' business model is to explore and operate mines in India but not to seek to control the tenements, a strategy Kiernan is confident will enable the company to avoid some of the bureaucratic difficulties faced by some other foreign companies in India.

Shares in the company were last trading at 15c, unchanged since the start of the week.
 
Most of the Indians worship Cow because they are Holy.
Many of us in Australia love MK because he has Midas touch.
Look MON - he bought hugh amount and share price only telling his story.
IRL he invested high - look at the share price.
Territory - He got lotto.
Windimurra Vanadium - He got disillusioned and after doing some good damage quit from the company.

If I have a pacemaker - I would not put my :2twocents in any company run by MK.
 
After market close announcement:

"Becoming a substantial holder from TTY"

:D TTY have taken a 5.29% stake.

My guess is that this will move up tomorrow once the news is digested. MK has previously stated that he may look to consolidate all his companies into one. Just like TTY is doing with OLY at the moment.

Finally patience is being rewarded :)
 
Hey Prawn,

the stock already went up 28% dude, how far do u want it to go up by? bloody MK is killing off the TTY share with all this buying :banghead:
 
Hey Prawn,

the stock already went up 28% dude, how far do u want it to go up by? bloody MK is killing off the TTY share with all this buying :banghead:

Well if you look back at the first page onwards you will see valuations placed by both myself and others that are much higher than the current SP. I know that means jack in the overall sense, but imo it is still severely undervalued. However i think it will increase again tomorrow once people read the announcement.

Interesting to note also that TTY has been named as a possible takeover target. perhaps MK is buying up lots in order to make the comapny structure more complex and therefore less likely to be taken over.

Just a theory...
 
Folks

I have been following IRL for some times so was MON, MOL etc. I have not followed TTY the only blue chip type gain MK gained from his chairmanship.

If you look back IRL share price was at very high when it floated. It came down at very low level. Then he released right share at 20 cents with free option. Original IPO had free option too. The share price was jacked up at just above 20 cents to get the rights fully subscribed. Then it dived into 17 cents. It has released many good stories including promoting the Chief Opt Officer to ED level. Unforunately none of the top mgmt team has a proven success story. One of them has been Brandill and that performance is seen.
IRL performance is less than satisfactory on the sharemarket.

Then MON comes. Again MK Factor. Share price was very high. He proposed to join three shares into one (just happened in POS). Share price scrolled down. Record speaks for itself. Now MON rights are being offered at 45 cents. Share price will be held at 47 cents with good market release from MON and IRL. But just watch the share price will climb down.

I am pretty sure in the begining days Crawley Investment was one of the top 20 share holders in MOL. I may be confused to recollect or reconnect .

Next agenda will be consolidating IRL and MON. The only synergy will be MK need not to travel two AGM, sign two balance sheets, etc. Net synergy for shareholders will be a+b= c where both a and b are more than c

I do not hold any of IRL or MON now. Have paid enough to learn lessons and sharing the same with others. It is because I also learnt from others experience when they either paid or gained enough..
 
While i can appreciate what your saying Miner, i think that IRL still presents a good opportunity.

It is obvious that TTY has been buying at these levels, particulary around the 14c mark. To me that would suggest that someone buying in now would be exposed to little downside, as TTY will continue to support the price at 14c.

Theoretically there should not be another cap raising from IRL for a while, as they still have about $3mill in the bank from memory and an outstanding loan to MON of $7mill.

So they have $10mill which should be enough to carry out their plans to increase the Surdas mine output. They are also planning on being cashflow positive in April, so even if that is a couple months behind schedule the $10mill they have should easily get them through until then
 
Territory Resources takes their stake in India Resources up to 9.01%, now a director is leaving India Resources to concentrate on his role at Territory Resources. The share price isn't moving so buyers must not think anything is going to happen...
 
Well this one seems to be on stuck on struggle street. Buyers drying up, Sellers building. I wonder if Territory Resources are picking up any more shares at these low prices? Everything has been pretty quiet from India Resources over the last few months.
 
IRL got a good source of copper in India

But it got bad elements of management (Sorry MK - whatever you touched became lead - a kind of Midas touch you could argue excepting different group of metal in periodic table)


Some of its executives came after making their employers either belly up or gone into red,


I do not hold IRL or IRLO any more - what a relief and restful sleep

All good stories but no shareholder return , To me It is a hot potato if that is any comparative statement
 
Looks to be on the cusp of adding positive copper inflows in the top line of the cashflow statement.

Good commodity price forecasts for copper and diamonds. Also low transportation costs as they will presumbaly be sold into Indian market.

Risk seems to be political with Indian resistance to foreigh ownership. Also cash burn is high - $3m a quarter. So any delay in mining coudl hurt.

Geez it is a tempting valuation at $17m market cap for a copper producer. Those that pick the turn around point will do well on this one IMO.
 
Risk seems to be political with Indian resistance to foreigh ownership. Also cash burn is high - $3m a quarter. So any delay in mining coudl hurt.

I would also add that risk could be lack of disclosure form management, and MKs public desire to consolidate his co's, so there is a risk that IRL may get snapped up below 'fair value', by TTY

Check back a few pages for the whole IRL/MON loan debacle
 
Geez it is a tempting valuation at $17m market cap for a copper producer. Those that pick the turn around point will do well on this one IMO.

I've only had a brief look at this company but, to be honest, this whole operation looks rather dodgy to me.

Maybe I've been looking in all the wrong places, but I can't seem to find any information on their projected production costs per lb of copper... anyone?

Also, why is there a veil of secrecy covering the supply contract between themselves and HCL? Are the terms of the contract that unfavourable towards IRL?
How can any investor make an informed investment decision, when the projected sales income from their copper operation is unknown?

To me it seems that IRL is nothing more than a vehicle for HCL to mine copper without having to invest any $$ and take on any of the associated risk.
And the supply contract probably offers HCL the resulting copper concentrate at bargain basement prices, which would probably explain why no contract details have been forthcoming...

In other words; IRL investors are nothing more than cash mules for HCL.

But like I said, I've only had a brief look, so if any of the more knowledgable folk out there are of the opinion that I ought to be corrected, please feel free to do so..
 
I've only had a brief look at this company but, to be honest, this whole operation looks rather dodgy to me.

Maybe I've been looking in all the wrong places, but I can't seem to find any information on their projected production costs per lb of copper... anyone?

Also, why is there a veil of secrecy covering the supply contract between themselves and HCL? Are the terms of the contract that unfavourable towards IRL?
How can any investor make an informed investment decision, when the projected sales income from their copper operation is unknown?

To me it seems that IRL is nothing more than a vehicle for HCL to mine copper without having to invest any $$ and take on any of the associated risk.
And the supply contract probably offers HCL the resulting copper concentrate at bargain basement prices, which would probably explain why no contract details have been forthcoming...

In other words; IRL investors are nothing more than cash mules for HCL.

But like I said, I've only had a brief look, so if any of the more knowledgable folk out there are of the opinion that I ought to be corrected, please feel free to do so
..



Hi PBH
After reading your post I did some search for Hindustan Copper Complex . It is a Government of India organisation became sick and now under restructure. They are now making profit

Website is http://www.hindustancopper.com/home.asp

Hindustan Copper Limited was incorporated on 9th November, 1967. It is the only vertically integrated multi-unit copper producer in India engaged in a wide spectrum of activities ranging from mining, beneficiation, smelting, refining and manufacturing of copper cathodes, continuous cast wirerods and wirebars.


Ironically in their website there is no reference to IRL . It does not mean IRL is not working there but it means the business done by IRL is not worth to reflect in HCC website

What is similar to me that one sick (IRL) company has gone to help another sick company HCC

Some of the extract from their website

First Quarter (Apr 2007 to Jun 2007)
Particulars (Lakh Rs.) Q1 (2007-08)
Q1 (2006-07) (For understanding Indian finance rule says all accounts to close on 31st March . One lakh is 100000 , one Rs = 1/30 AUS Dollar
Change %

Gross Sales & Operating Revenue 43,325.27 38,035.34 13.91
Other Income 1,717.73 113.20 1417.43
Total Expenditure 34,649.53 32,818.30 5.58
P B D I T 10,393.47 5,330.23 94.99
Interest 922.36 774.58 19.08
Depreciation 459.25 464.34 -1.1
Profit before Tax 9,011.86 4,091.31 120.27
Provision for Tax 1,467.00 7.50 19460
Net Profit 7,544.86 4,083.81 84.75
Earning Per Share - Basic 0.98 0.56 75
Earning Per Share - Diluted 1.29 0 -
 
I was looking at the IRL website today and noticed something about coal. Everyone seems to love coal at the moment. I don't know how long this has been on the website, but if anything actually eventuates from the discussion with Cooks’ Construction Pty Ltd over a joint venture, maybe, just maybe, something positive will flow into this share price.

Coal

IRL is currently holding discussions with Cooks’ Construction Pty Ltd, Australia’s largest privately owned earth moving and mining contracting company with extensive coal mining experience, with a view to establishing a joint venture. It is intended that any resulting joint venture entity would apply for rights to explore and develop coal projects in India.

With an increasing coal demand that outstrips the supply, India is seen as having big coal mining potential for foreign companies.

http://www.indiaresources.com.au/coal.php
 
I emailed India Resources yesterday asking if any progress has been made regarding the coal negotiations and the Managing Director of India Resources, Eoin Rothery replied today with:

"It’s fair to say that the Cooks negotiations have stalled for the moment. We have been concentrating on ramping up copper production at Surda and we are actively looking at a number of other projects; particularly the Askot Cu-Pb-Zn-Au-Ag deposit in northern India. Bar Surda, the projects in India we’ve been chasing/assessing have taken a bit longer than we’ve anticipated; but we are not even a year since listing! Our current policy is to announce deals rather than negotiations as we are/have been involved in upwards of twenty different substantial possibilities. Our achievement as the only Australian miner to set up in India is well recognised over here (I’m in Delhi)."

The Askot Project is owned by Pebble Creek, a Toronto listed company, in which IRL owns 17%.
http://www.pebcreek.com/projects.asp?p=askot-resource
 
india resources -IRL

Just browsing-excuse if this already posted

Noticed rio taken interest in a diamond mining project in BUndelkhand in madha pradesh india.
Then snooped around.........


Found in

newsrack.in/Browse.do;jsessionid=FFC61B8425F6E737465CC2E803CB48A0?owner=esg&issue=Issues&catID=20 - 42k - 16 hours ago



Drought-prone Bundelkhand may hit fortune in diamond mining (Cached)
6.5.2008 Rediff: Business

Technicians and officials of global diamond major DeBeers and the Directorate of Geology and Mining have been surprised to find a piece of diamond at one of the bore pit in the bed of the Vaghin river near Kalinjer Fort in Banda district. The Uttar Pradesh government has started getting results from its two-year-old "Diamond Exploration" project. Multi-national firm DeBeers is already conducting preliminary survey of the region
Also found in: [esg :: all]



Rio Tinto applies for diamond mining in Bundelkhand (Cached)
23.6.2008 Financial Express: Front Page
The UK-based Rio Tinto on Monday said it has applied for mining lease for its Bunder diamond project in the Bundelkhand region of Madhya Pradesh.
Also found in: [esg :: all]



and this


ASX Code: IRL
INDIA RESOURCES LIMITED
Description
India Resources Ltd is a copper, diamond, zinc and lead exploration company with projects exclusively in India. Projects include Khetri Copper Mine, Aravalli, Bundelkhand Diamond, Surda Copper Mine where for the 6 years prior to closure in January 2003, produced a total of 1.473Mt @ 0.9% Cu; Malanjkhand Copper Mine, Bhandara Diamond and Dharwar Diamond Projects. The company expects to commence copper production in the first quarter of 2008 and recently announced that it has excercised its option over the AMIL Mining India Private Ltd prospective diamond leases and is moving to acquire 100%of the controlling company.
Mine For
copper, diamond, zinc, lead
Location of operation(s)

Maybe where there`s smoke??????


DYOR
the bold type is my emphasis
 
Has this company got any future? MK has left both IRL and Territory Resources. Maybe Territory is selling down it's stake? It could takeover IRL for next to nothing at the moment. Management needs to work on expanding this company rather then focusing on the Surda Copper Mine. I mean it's great having some cashflow, but in reality is only a secondhand mine. They are cashed up after draining the hard earned cash from investors with that 20c Share Purchase Plan, so why don't they fast track drilling in some of their other tenements. They need to at least look like they want to grow this company and show that they aren't in there just for their director fees... I was think of averaging down from my 19c purchase price, but in reality I don't know if it will go up much from the current price, if at all... It has a great potential this stock, I mean how many companies listed on the ASX operate in India and are actually producing over there?
 
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