Iranian Civil War?

[Mr J]

I know you said it was off-topic, but it is worthwhile to discuss if you wanted to start another thread.

I don't see any oppressed people in Australia. The governments are changed by the majority vote and as far as political promises go well they are remembered next election.

Yet people still blindly vote for "their" parties and fall for the most obvious of propaganda. People are so willing to believe what they are told, and skepticism is actually criticised though mindless chants such as "not supporting the troops", "climate denier" etc. Divide and conquer is precisely what it is - fool as many as possible and then make all others an enemy to them. This way the powers don't even have to deal with dissent, as the mob does it for them.

 

[wayneL]

...a country that is free thinking...

I seriously question that premise.

We are free to think, but we are trained in what to think... and only certain "approved" expressions of such thought are acceptable.

 

[Putty7]

I seriously question that premise.

We are free to think, but we are trained in what to think... and only certain "approved" expressions of such thought are acceptable.

lol thanks Wayne should have had "supposedly" before that

 

[BradK]

According to Tehran, the old chaps in London are responsible for this mess...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/now-iran-turns-its-fury-on-britain-1852807.html

Brad

 

[Dona Ferentes]

good old Mossad. Stirring the pot .... (and if you miss the irony, good on 'em)

Iran unrest: Women burn headscarves at anti-hijab protests​

.... totally unrelated, of course, to the recent buddying up of the mullahs to Putin and supply of medium-tech drones to Russia

Iran unrest: Women burn headscarves at anti-hijab protests

Protests have continued for five successive nights since the death in custody of Mahsa Amini.

www.bbc.com

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Big boom booms happening across Iran.

(Lie with dogs, get fleas)

 

[The Triangle]

Big boom booms happening across Iran.

(Lie with dogs, get fleas)

Why is nothing out of the middle east ever high definition? All phones made in the last few years record low light 1080/4K resolutions, yet everything still looks like it was shot on a 2003 Nokia.

 

[wayneL]

MSM strangely quiet so far... Hmmm

 

[Knobby22]

According to Reuters 2 hours ago, Iranian media reporting it as an unsuccessful drone attack.

Israel appears to have been behind drone strike on Iran factory, U.S. official says

Israel appears to have been behind an overnight drone attack on a military factory in Iran, a U.S. official said on Sunday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Dona Ferentes]

MSM strangely quiet so far... Hmmm

Good point. And there's been a significant earthquake.

 

[wayneL]

Misinformation, disinformation? Or is **** getting real?

 

[Dona Ferentes]

A measured view, with attributions and the Usual Caveats:
Israel conducted a kamikaze drone attack on a military munitions factory near Esfahan City, Esfahan Province on January 28, according to Western media reports.[1] Israeli agents used at least three explosive-laden quadcopters in the attack, suggesting that they launched the strike from inside Iran rather than a neighboring state because of the range of heavily laden quadcopters.[2] The Defense and Armed Forces Logistics Ministry reportedly uses the targeted facility to produce ballistic missiles and drones.[3] Unidentified sources told Western and Israeli journalists that the strike was ”specific, surgical, and successful” and ”a tremendous success.”[4] The Iranian defense ministry dismissed these reports in a public statement, claiming that Iranian air defenses largely prevented the attack and that the drones caused only minimal damage to the roof of the facility.[5]

Iranian officials have not blamed any specific actor for the drone attack at the time of this writing. They may avoid explicitly blaming Israel or any other actor until they have decided how they will respond. Iranian leaders could order proxy attacks on US positions in Iraq and Syria or into Israel in the coming weeks in retaliation. This attack will also likely further increase Iranian concerns over the alleged presence of Israeli intelligence services in Azerbaijan and Iraqi Kurdistan.

This attack underscores the extent to which Israeli intelligence services have penetrated the Iranian security sphere. This infiltration has become increasingly obvious and ostentatious in recent years. Mossad has likely conducted several high-profile operations in Iran in recent years, including:[6]

• Raiding a covert archive in Tehran and seizing sensitive documents tied to the pre-2003 Iranian nuclear weapons program in January 2018.
• Assassinating senior Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhri Zadeh outside Tehran City in November 2020.
• Sabotaging the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant in July 2020 and again in April 2021.
• Conducting a kamikaze drone attack on a centrifuge manufacturing facility in Karaj in June 2021.

Social media accounts reported additional explosions and fires throughout Iran around the same time as the drone strike, although these events were likely coincidental accidents or misreported. Social media users reported an explosion in Khoy, West Azerbaijan Province and an extensive fire at a motor fuel facility in Azar Shahr, East Azerbaijan Province.[7] Both occurred shortly after a nearby 5.9-magnitude earthquake in northwestern Iran, which very likely caused these events.[8] Social media users also reported Iranian fighter jets flying above Tehran and the sounds of explosions in Karaj, Alborz Province; Dezfoul, Khuzestan Province; and Hamedan City, Hamedan Province in the hours following the drone attack.[9] There is no evidence that any explosions occurred or images of any damage that might have been caused by explosions. These reports more likely suggest that the regime scrambled fighter jets from airfields that are close to these locations in response to the drone strike, and residents misreported the sounds of military aircraft as explosions.

ISW

 

[Dona Ferentes]

meanwhile ... way out east

Jaysh al-Adl, also known as Jundallah, has changed since the 2000s; what was originally a Sunni extremist and terrorist group, which was even on the U.S. State Department’s List of Foreign Terrorist Organizations, Then it conducted attacks on Shia Worship Sites and Iranian civilians in 2000 through 2010, since 2014 has become almost a Anti-Iranian Regime separatist group which only appears to target the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and security ntities while attempting to limit any civilian casualties (according to some).

Probably using what is happening in Syria/ Gaza / Israel to keep IRGC distracted, there have been incursions in the south east .
Sistan and Baluchestan Province ; explosions and heavy gunfire can have been heard in the cities of Rask and Chah Bahar.